911 the conspiracy, an inside job?

1970galaxie · 11-09-2006, 12:32 AM

Did any one watch the TV last night about this?
A mate of mine told me about it today, and he said it was a real eye opener.
According to the website, it was an inside job by the CIA or FBI.

Here's a link to a website which was mentioned on the program.
http://letsroll911.org/phpwebsite/

Yeah, I know what everybody is thinking, but really, you need to check this out.

AC · 11-09-2006, 12:56 AM

I've seen a few of them, my favourite is "Loose Change 911"
Theres alot of conspiraces out there, who knows what to beleive anymore.

I took a few thing things away from it though...
The plane that crashed into the field & pentagon, bugger all wreckage no bodies. A first of its kind
WTC's both of them the were first to do a full collapse from a fire.

All that info is on Loose Change, the only thing i didnt like about Loose Change is the guys making it harassed morners at Ground Zero.

Smoked · 11-09-2006, 01:06 AM

Heat does wonders to reducing the strength of Steel.

XR Martin · 11-09-2006, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 2ndOwner

I've seen a few of them, my favourite is "Loose Change 911"
Theres alot of conspiraces out there, who knows what to beleive anymore.

I took a few thing things away from it though...
The plane that crashed into the field & pentagon, bugger all wreckage no bodies. A first of its kind
WTC's both of them the were first to do a full collapse from a fire.

All that info is on Loose Change, the only thing i didnt like about Loose Change is the guys making it harassed morners at Ground Zero.

Yes there were bodies and plenty of wreckage in the Pentagon, there are photos out there, you're just not going to find them on a conspiracy site.
It maybe the first skyskrapers to collapse from a fire but they are also the first to have jetliners to fly into them loaded with fuel and at 700kmh+!

BTW: Please take a read of here, it explains everything brought up in those shows. (by actual scientists/engineers - not the mail order diplomas that the so called experts in the Conspiracy videos have)
http://www.debunking911.com/

AC · 11-09-2006, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

It maybe the first skyskrapers to collapse from a fire but they are also the first to have jetliners to fly into them loaded with fuel and at 700kmh+!

Agreed, extrodinary things can and do happen..

Franky · 11-09-2006, 01:26 AM

these shows about 9/11 really seem to be getting old, we know what happened, we know how it happened and we know thousands were killed.

No disrespect to people who's loved ones were involved but do we have to have hundreds of shows about it forced down out throats every year?

AC · 11-09-2006, 01:29 AM

So i guess your renting some video's tonight eh Franky ;)

Firefox7 · 11-09-2006, 01:33 AM

Watch this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9oWLDyMgz4

Cheers.

Falcon Freak · 11-09-2006, 01:50 AM

What happened on the 9th of November?

FF

XR Martin · 11-09-2006, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Firefox7

Watch this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9oWLDyMgz4

Cheers.

And this site debunks/explains all that

http://internetdetectives.biz/case/loose-change

Franky · 11-09-2006, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 2ndOwner

So i guess your renting some video's tonight eh Franky ;)

haha yeah I had to fill in some time before the grand prix came on.

and FF it is commonly refered to a nine eleven so don't be a smart **** lol

the_scotsman · 11-09-2006, 07:09 AM

Theres a Loose Change 2...its also just as interesting!

I've followed this conspiracy for a long while now...have seen all the docos...it really does make you wonder...there's just so much that can't be explained...Have a look at Fahrenheit 9/11 for example..the issues it brings up...I mean WTF???

LTDHO · 11-09-2006, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Freak

What happened on the 9th of November?

FF

It was a week after my bithday, very significant day in history....

Although September 11th, 2001 there was a bigger event.

You can watch and read as much as you want about the attack and you will never know, not unless after 50 years the US government decide to release the truth.

rag top · 11-09-2006, 08:07 AM

I'm waiting for the conspirasory theorists to say that 9-11 was a hollywood production.

Sourbastard · 11-09-2006, 09:56 AM

Its well known that the Alliance of Evil, consisting of the Masons, the gray aliens, and the wiggles plotted from their orbiting battle fortress for years to bring down the World Trade Center. Their motivation is unclear, but I'm betting it was due to Jeff sleeping in.

GCFordChic · 11-09-2006, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sourbastard

Its well known that the Alliance of Evil, consisting of the Masons, the gray aliens, and the wiggles plotted from their orbiting battle fortress for years to bring down the World Trade Center. Their motivation is unclear, but I'm betting it was due to Jeff sleeping in.

Dont forget the Teletubbies involvement, scrambling the minds of the masses. Im glad i wore my al-foil helmet!

Olympus · 11-09-2006, 10:12 AM

Propaganda against propaganda.

Sourbastard · 11-09-2006, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by GCFordChic

Dont forget the Teletubbies involvement, scrambling the minds of the masses. Im glad i wore my al-foil helmet!

The teletubbies were bred by the wiggles by mating a rhino with a garden gnome. They were intended to be the ultimate warrior for world domination, cute like a gnome, yet violent like a Rhino. Instead they got 4 multicoloured, brainless rhino sized retards.

They seemed destined for TV from birth.

XR Martin · 11-09-2006, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by the_scotsman

Theres a Loose Change 2...its also just as interesting!

I've followed this conspiracy for a long while now...have seen all the docos...it really does make you wonder...there's just so much that can't be explained...Have a look at Fahrenheit 9/11 for example..the issues it brings up...I mean WTF???

What exactly cant be explained?
Fahrenheit 9/11 was full of flat out lies and deceits. It was certianly not a documentary, more like a docu-drama.

http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fift...enheit-911.htm

XRQTR · 11-09-2006, 11:18 AM

The biggest joke is that they still don't have the people responsible, reason, it would mean that they couldn't play with their guns anymore.

Just this morning I heard that Bin-Laden is still hiding in the mountains between Afghanistan and Pakistan, he's been their for how long now??? and yet they still can't find him, or perhaps that should be don't want to.

That's the true reason behind all of this, I mean it was proven that Iraq had no WMD's and yet Bush and his cronies, of which Howard is definitely one, still insist on staying in Iraq and 'searching' for them. Then their is the whole Iran issue, how about you just let them go junior and monitor them in a more peaceful manner, I mean isn't it easier to catch flies with honey than with vinegar.

And don't even get me started on the Israel/Lebanon conflict, anyone that saw the reports afterwards saw just how precise the Israeli attacks were(n't).

They, America, either invade or sanction so many invasions into countries that I am amazed that they still can't understand why they are hated by so many, not the people but the government. Unfortunately the people are seen to be accepting and willing participants by many of the terrorists, hence the indiscriminant attacks on civilians.

I could go on but then, but I have to go, and please think about what I have written before replying with some smart a##ed comments.

EA2BA · 11-09-2006, 11:23 AM

I am so glad we got foxtel so I can avoid watching all the 911 rubbish, it happened, it was terrible, but lets just move on people.

max · 11-09-2006, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by XRQTR

The biggest joke is that they still don't have the people responsible, reason, it would mean that they couldn't play with their guns anymore.

Just this morning I heard that Bin-Laden is still hiding in the mountains between Afghanistan and Pakistan, he's been their for how long now??? and yet they still can't find him, or perhaps that should be don't want to.

That's the true reason behind all of this, I mean it was proven that Iraq had no WMD's and yet Bush and his cronies, of which Howard is definitely one, still insist on staying in Iraq and 'searching' for them. Then their is the whole Iran issue, how about you just let them go junior and monitor them in a more peaceful manner, I mean isn't it easier to catch flies with honey than with vinegar.

And don't even get me started on the Israel/Lebanon conflict, anyone that saw the reports afterwards saw just how precise the Israeli attacks were(n't).

They, America, either invade or sanction so many invasions into countries that I am amazed that they still can't understand why they are hated by so many, not the people but the government. Unfortunately the people are seen to be accepting and willing participants by many of the terrorists, hence the indiscriminant attacks on civilians.

I could go on but then, but I have to go, and please think about what I have written before replying with some smart a##ed comments.

I agree with you. Also it appears Saddam did not TRUST Al Qaeda. Did not want a bar of them.... So now Iraq is a total shimmozle, Afghanistan is a dog's breakfast, yeah Lebanon/Israel– lets not go there.... and perhaps the next little fracas will commence in Iran! Long live our brilliant world leaders who are fighting the war on terrorism!! Five years down the track its all better is it not(not)??

jimmy_c · 11-09-2006, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 1970galaxie

Did any one watch the TV last night about this?
A mate of mine told me about it today, and he said it was a real eye opener.
According to the website, it was an inside job by the CIA or FBI.

Here's a link to a website which was mentioned on the program.
http://letsroll911.org/phpwebsite/

Yeah, I know what everybody is thinking, but really, you need to check this out.

Their is some scary people running the show. we are bombarded as a society with crap that doesnt make sense and never will for a long time.

DJL351 · 11-09-2006, 11:49 AM

While I don't wish to start a fight on this subject.....

out:

I can not see why some still think that governments don't lie???

:

Why was there now huge Jet Fuel fire at the Petagon?
(there are photos of the first, second and third floors showning not even smoke damage)
Why are there no parts (engine - Tail etc) of the 757 shown at the Petagon?
Why are all the video camera tapes from both the Petagon wall and the services station still hidden??
(if it proves the government right, why not show it??)

Why did the people on the four plane ringing FAMILY??? (the one that never was.... sorry crashed...)
Why did they not ring the police???? (if their mobile phones were working at all?)

Why were so many things change at the WTC only days and week before???
(Sniffer dogs were banned, guards were taken off 12 hour shifts)

Too may "WHY" questions for me.

We are the ones that have lost out... we now have less freedoms.
Things like, being held longer by police without charge, wire taps are easier to get.... etc

Dave_au · 11-09-2006, 11:51 AM

I dont think there is anything conspriacy here whatsoever, there probably is an unrelated conspiracy to invade Iraq, there was probably a conspiracy to kill JFK, but other than that it's all a storm in a teacup.

There seems to be some condition of the human psyche which always warrants imaginative theories even when the most logical argument is the explaination.

MITCHAY · 11-09-2006, 12:26 PM

I watched the In Plane Site doco the other night which seems to be have debunked.

However the one thing that stood out was the imploding of WTC 7. This apparently happened 8 hours later. Surely it would take longer to organize an implosion of these sorts. Also after seeing this it got me to thinking about the way the towers collapsed.

They collapsed like they were imploded. Seriously what would be the odds that the heat generated from the plane crash would have applied even heat distrubution to the structure? If anything the top of the building should of fallen to the side as it was taken out in the corner. This is my thinking anyways.

But then again you would surely notice people rigging up a building to demolished.

Too much to think about. Needless to say a lot of people died conspiracy or not.

Bucket · 11-09-2006, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by XRQTR

I mean it was proven that Iraq had no WMD's and yet Bush and his cronies, of which Howard is definitely one, still insist on staying in Iraq and 'searching' for them.

Sorry...I think I have to disagree there...Yes ok, Bush is certainly looking like a bit of a fool at the moment but does everyone remember when the UN were trying to get into Iraq to check for WMD?

Hans: Knock Knock "Mr. Sadam...we think you have WMD stored here, in Iraq. Can we please come in and have a look arround to make sure this isnt the case?"

Sadm "NO..go away"

Hans "Oh...ok...sorry to disturb you."

Now repeat this cycle for 2 or so months and Sadam has created plenty of time to organise and plan a strategic removal of all Proof of WMD.
Just annother way of looking at it. Bush may have dont some made some bad/stupid decisions but I think people are far to quick to jump on the "We hate Bush" Bandwagon sometimes

EA2BA · 11-09-2006, 12:31 PM

Go look at the plans and how the building where constructed, this is the reason they imploded, the hole left from the planes meant the building colapsed under its own weight.

XR Martin · 11-09-2006, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DJL351

While I don't wish to start a fight on this subject.....

out:

I can not see why some still think that governments don't lie???

:

Why was there now huge Jet Fuel fire at the Petagon?
(there are photos of the first, second and third floors showning not even smoke damage)
Why are there no parts (engine - Tail etc) of the 757 shown at the Petagon?
Why are all the video camera tapes from both the Petagon wall and the services station still hidden??
(if it proves the government right, why not show it??)

Why did the people on the four plane ringing FAMILY??? (the one that never was.... sorry crashed...)
Why did they not ring the police???? (if their mobile phones were working at all?)

Why were so many things change at the WTC only days and week before???
(Sniffer dogs were banned, guards were taken off 12 hour shifts)

Too may "WHY" questions for me.

We are the ones that have lost out... we now have less freedoms.
Things like, being held longer by police without charge, wire taps are easier to get.... etc

1/ Im looking for the link that shows massive a fireball directly after the plane hit taken by a person from the motorway
EDIT Found it http://criticalthrash.com/terror/crashthumbnails.html

2/ Engine and airplane parts
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/..._evidence.html

3/ There is no service station facing the pentagon, and since when does service stations have quality footage? And since when do they look at anything other than the cars filling up?

4/ Who says they didnt ring police? If you know you whats already happened that day, and are pretty sure you're going to die, you'd rather speak to your family than a 911 operator would you not?
Pics of the crash site
http://internetdetectives.biz/case/l...93-didnt-crash

5/ It was because of phone threats over the previous 2 weeks. Security guards were still present, and there was at least one bomb detection dog available on September 11.

XR Martin · 11-09-2006, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MITCHAY

I watched the In Plane Site doco the other night which seems to be have debunked.

However the one thing that stood out was the imploding of WTC 7. This apparently happened 8 hours later. Surely it would take longer to organize an implosion of these sorts. Also after seeing this it got me to thinking about the way the towers collapsed.

They collapsed like they were imploded. Seriously what would be the odds that the heat generated from the plane crash would have applied even heat distrubution to the structure? If anything the top of the building should of fallen to the side as it was taken out in the corner. This is my thinking anyways.

But then again you would surely notice people rigging up a building to demolished.

Too much to think about. Needless to say a lot of people died conspiracy or not.

The building imploded due to its construction
http://www.debunking911.com/towers.htm
And link on building 7s collapse
http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm