Internet addresses

Mickxr8 · 28-01-2011, 11:46 PM

internet addresses.
Should be interesting to see how this one plays out.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...28/3124289.htm

kyro_02 · 29-01-2011, 01:07 AM

it's ok, IPV6 has saved us already :P

benoxr · 29-01-2011, 09:52 AM

IPocalypse.....give me a break. Trying to make it sound like another Y2k bug.

Probably no different than Telstra allocating a whole new set of phone numbers or car rego numbers changing around the country because they've exhausted a number system.

flappist · 29-01-2011, 10:04 AM

Yep we have run out because they are all being used

I have 168 static IPs allocated and use almost 20 of them and know of people who have a whole octet with 1 host.

IPV6 will take over IPV4 the week after hydrogen takes over from petrol........

Rodp · 29-01-2011, 11:52 AM

Fear mongering from people who don't know any better.

Ralliart · 29-01-2011, 12:08 PM

heard about this earlier in the week, should be interesting how it goes

**cs123** · 29-01-2011, 12:23 PM

Egypt seems to have run out of internet addresses

Bobman · 30-01-2011, 01:54 AM

They've been talking about this for about 3 years now.

Don't think there is much to worry about.

atec77 · 30-01-2011, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mickxr8

internet addresses.
Should be interesting to see how this one plays out.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...28/3124289.htm

Another beatup by illinformed stupid jurnos
ipv6 has been around for a decade and in use for ages
nothing to see here move along

Riksta · 30-01-2011, 09:32 AM

I've got plenty of IPs available on my home network. I'll lease them out!

**cs123** · 30-01-2011, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Riksta

I've got plenty of IPs available on my home network. I'll lease them out!

Those 10.x.x.x 192.x.x.x and 172.x.x.x addresses used for private/home networks are non-routable and not much good to anyone wanting a public IP.

Although you could set up a scam on ebay where you sell them. Never know your luck......

Franco Cozzo · 30-01-2011, 11:25 AM

Internode has been trialing IPV6 for a while now

Rodp · 30-01-2011, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cs123

Those 10.x.x.x 192.x.x.x and 172.x.x.x addresses used for private/home networks are non-routable and not much good to anyone wanting a public IP.

Although you could set up a scam on ebay where you sell them. Never know your luck......

I think he was taking the p%^#.

But if he wasn't, I'll also lease out my 192.168.1 network - I have about 200 free - first in first served. ;)

flappist · 30-01-2011, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cs123

Those 10.x.x.x 192.x.x.x and 172.x.x.x addresses used for private/home networks are non-routable and not much good to anyone wanting a public IP.

Although you could set up a scam on ebay where you sell them. Never know your luck......

There are heaps of public IPs that start with 192 and 172

**cs123** · 30-01-2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

There are heaps of public IPs that start with 192 and 172

Sorry wasn't thinking straight..... I've got no excuse....
Non routable IP's are.
10.255.255.255
172.31.255.255
192.168.255.255

flappist · 30-01-2011, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cs123

Sorry wasn't thinking straight..... I've got no excuse....
Non routable IP's are.
10.255.255.255
172.31.255.255
192.168.255.255

Yes I know you knew that, hence the smile....

Riksta · 30-01-2011, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cs123

Those 10.x.x.x 192.x.x.x and 172.x.x.x addresses used for private/home networks are non-routable and not much good to anyone wanting a public IP.

Although you could set up a scam on ebay where you sell them. Never know your luck......

I like the ebay idea, might work!

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Originally Posted by Rodp

I think he was taking the p%^#.

But if he wasn't, I'll also lease out my 192.168.1 network - I have about 200 free - first in first served. ;)

Correct, I was indeed being a clown

I know those IPs are for private use and not actually "on the internet" IPs (if that makes sense - I know what I'm trying to say!!!).

Franco Cozzo · 30-01-2011, 08:27 PM

Whats the go with the 10 and 172 IP adresses? I've only ever seen 192 on home networks. I seen the 10 ones on the school network though.

Any reason behind that? Just because in some networks there might be more than the 192 range?

kyro_02 · 30-01-2011, 08:31 PM

guess it depends on the hardware and software configurations, you can manually change the addresses to whatever you like

Riksta · 30-01-2011, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Damo

Whats the go with the 10 and 172 IP adresses? I've only ever seen 192 on home networks. I seen the 10 ones on the school network though.

Any reason behind that? Just because in some networks there might be more than the 192 range?

I think its just something to do with a Windows networking default to kick off at 192.168.0.1 and go up from there. My router has the option to set its IP address to whatever you like, and it will assign out IPs based on whatever its own IP is.

I THINK back in the day of internet connection sharing (home networks where one PC had a dialup modem and would connect, then it would share the connection out) you HAD to have the computer with the modem set at 192.168.0.1 from memory - I think we tried to use different IPs with ICS and it cracked it and refused to work until we set back to 192.168.0.1

kyro_02 · 30-01-2011, 08:36 PM

setting up dialup to share to the rest of the network computers is a night mare.. for whatever reason, back in the day I had problems with it, so much easier with adsl and cable modems keke

Rodp · 30-01-2011, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Damo

Whats the go with the 10 and 172 IP adresses? I've only ever seen 192 on home networks. I seen the 10 ones on the school network though.

Any reason behind that? Just because in some networks there might be more than the 192 range?

Without getting too technical, they are reserved for private networks as opposed to the public network (ie, the internet).

On a 10 network you can have ~16.7million host addresses. (My Telstra mobile is connected to a 10.x network - it doesn't have a public IP address)

On the 172.16 - 172.31 network you can have ~1 million host addresses.

On a 192.168.0 - 255 network you can have ~65k host addresses. Most SOHO routers will be configured to a 192.168.x network by default)

(assuming you're using the standard class netmasks...)

There are 3 classes (ok, technically 5) and each of the above networks are in different classes, A, B and C respectively.

If you were to allocate a public IP address to every device that connects to the internet, we would have run out of addresses a long time ago. I can have upwards of 50 network devices on my network but none of them are directly connected to the internet and hence are not allocated a public IP address.

Rodp · 30-01-2011, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Riksta

I think its just something to do with a Windows networking default to kick off at 192.168.0.1 and go up from there.

Windows networking doesn't have a default IP address. Its default is to request an address from a DHCP server. If you don't have a DHCP server (most SOHO modems likely have DHCP enabled by default) and you haven't specified a static IP, it'll give it a 169.254 address - in the hope that at least other computers on your private network can try to communicate with each other.

sgt_doofey · 30-01-2011, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Damo

Internode has been trialing IPV6 for a while now

It's no longer a trial. It's out in the wild for Internode now.