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Hi all,
Next year i will be purchasing a brand new 2018 Nissan X-Trail. I will more likely be looking at a 7seater so this question may not be revelent as the 7seater is auto only. But anyway, i have test driven a brand new manual X-Trail an lpved it. But everyone i talk to says i will be stuck with it when trade in time comes along... Whats everyone's thoughts on that? TIA James
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News Flash:
Dealers will always try to rip you off when it comes trade-in time. Doesn't matter what you have they will claim nobody wants it. Reality is that if you intend to trade, it probably won't make a difference. If you want to sell privately then yes it may, and you need to consider the demographic of your prospective purchasers. But if you are a buying a new car with a view to resale, then the simple answer is "don't." Cars cost money, you're paying for the "luxury" so buy want YOU want. |
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Most owners want auto's these days so I believe an auto will outsell manual for an X-trail model.
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Its a shame manual cars are falling out of favour, I wonder whether govco and the car companies (now with free auto) are guiding us all towards auto's so they can slip in their control / driverless car agenda.
However, I don't see why resale value would be badly affected by being a manual.
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SUV's and "mum and dad" type cars on the other hand are less desirable with manuals IMO. |
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If you want a manual buy one and worry about resale when the time comes. Between the time you buy it and the time you sell who knows what may happen. If you plan to keep it for 200 thousand kays then the gearbox probably won't make a difference in resale. I personally prefer autos yet I drive a manual. It's no real issue switching between either.
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My mate got bugger all for his ~5 year old Honda Euro manual. No calls from private sale, dealers lowballed him because it was manual. They said if it was auto then it would sell no probs.
Another mate picked up a newish RAV4 manual for a great price at the dealer, it had been sitting for a couple months as it was manual, they were just grateful to get rid of it. If you are planning on trading it in in a couple years then auto is the go. Many more people are getting auto only licences so buying a manual will rule out many prospective buyers. But you are the one that is driving it, no point buying an auto if you hate it. I would go the manual over the CVT in the Xtrail anyday. |
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bugger configuring a new car for the next owner
just choose want you want to own |
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Don't buy a car now based on something that may or may not happen in X years time when you sell... By whatever you want/suits you best...
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If you have a wagon, a manual, a diesel, a whatever, if you are trading-in they tell you that nobody wants them, and then they tell the buyer how rare it is and they can't get enough. |
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When getting our XTrail I briefly entertained manual, but it wasn’t available in the spec I wanted.
XTrail has been more enjoyable to live with and drive than I expected, so sometimes I wished I had gone a manual one. Is resale that much of an issue, I assume you would save at least a couple of grand over an auto so you have that as a buffer if you go to sell. We have a family friend who bought an XTrail a year before us and the whole time I had assumed it was an auto. The wife was chatting and told us she only drives manuals, yep her XTrail was a manual. |
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In 2004 only 33% of Australian car licence holders had a licence to drive a manual.
By 2009, that figure had fallen to 26%. I would hazard a guess that 8 years later in 2017, that figure would now be down to about 20%. When you come to sell a manual car another 5 years from now, it will be down to 16% with young drivers opting for auto and aging manual licence holders no longer driving. Your chances of selling the car then will be further greatly reduced. ![]() |
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For the life of me i couldn't sell a manual HSV despite it listing as the cheapest on car sales.
6 months and not one phone call. I reluctantly ended up selling it to a p plater. Car was completely stock. LS3
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With traffic these days, can you blame people for wanting an auto. Most commuters spend hours in traffic everyday, the last thing you want is to be pushing the clutch in and out 100 times to move 100meters. Another factor is autos are so good now that they are quicker, very responsive, better on fuel and stronger compared to manuals. No longer a disadvantage, in fact an advantage. Manuals are an extinct dinosaur ready to be laid to rest.
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The current xtrail in auto is CVT isnt it, i wouldn't go near one personally.
A few months ago my mate brought home a new Suzuki Vitara with CVT, i like to test drive whatever he has as a drive car so he threw me the keys and it was the most gutless piece of **** i've ever driven, even worse than the CVT outlander we had. Next day he brings me home a manual version, completely different car. |
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I know the Grand Vitara is torque convertor because it still uses the old 4sp, drove that and it drank fuel like you wouldn't believe. Drove the swift turbo too, looking forward to the new turbo sport thats supposedly coming soon, should be a rocket for what it is. |
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Wow are those figures for real?? I only know one person who has an auto only license i would have guessed at least 70% could drive a manual.
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"Not driving your car, to avoid racking up km, is like not (polite version) having relations with your missus, so you can save her for the next bloke." If you want a manual, buy it. Sure, you may get $2K less when it comes time to sell, but over 3 years, that's $2 a day. Would you pay $2 a day to drive something YOU want, vs something you are doing to please a future owner? It's like owning a V8 as a daily. Sure, a 4 cylinder buzzbox will get you to & from work, but the $10/week more it costs to drive the V8 to work is worth every single cent, many times over. |
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If a manual Xtrail is so undesirable to other buyers, offer to take the new one off his hands for a substantial discount on the RRP.
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I tried to sell my manual 2yo rio for 6 months, didn't get one phone call. If it was auto it would have gone quick smart.
If buying new make sure you get a hefty discount on manual, as autos are mostly free or NCO nowadays.
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As for used car sale yards expect the ripoff if you are dopey enough to use them. |
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The older diesel manual was a very economical zippy machine, unfortunately they've changed the engine in the new model to a 1.6L slug. Quote:
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Also I do know my manual XR50 fuel economy was on par with the auto version. |
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It's all very romantic to like the old manuals, and to say an enthusiast will appreciate its uniqueness,
But in all reality this (and most cars on the market) are not unique cars, they're grocery getters, and taxi's to pick up the kids, no car fits this genre more than the midsize sure such as the Xtrail, so put simply no one buys a manual passenger car now mot kids don't even know how to drive them. So the bottom line is if that's what you want, get it but don't factor in a resale based on a strong sale price because it won't happen
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I've had better trades with manual cars then dime a dozen autos. I guess with suv's it might be different. If you can live with an auto then I guess go that way.
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If your talking XR6 / 8 or the likes absolutely infact I'm looking for a BF XR6 manual for my son and the rubbish that is on offer in his budget would get him a glammer as an auto
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