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Bathed In A Yellow Glow
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Yep I already know. There's always some knob in one of these hogging the right hand lane or pushing their way through traffic as they think they are big and tough. Also the kind usually found in the bush who don't dip high beams and have total disregard for other people outside of their convoy.
However the nomads who use them to tow are good and they're bloody good vehicles for that! They have come such a long way over the past decade. But it gets on my nerves when manufacturers market them as trucks. They are not trucks. If this was America then that's okay as that's their lingo!
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I guess for families, it's nice to not have to bend over to strap the sprog into the rear seats, but I still think buying a 4wd you'll never take off the road is just a waste, both of a 4wd and of money. Another thing, while it may be more convenient when dealing with child seats, you probably should also be looking into safety, and they don't handle/brake anywhere near as well as a family sized sedan. In fact, I'm sure someone (Top Gear? Mythbusters?) tested them in crashes and found that you were more at risk of injury in an SUV/4wd. |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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1 in 4 road deaths in Australia are due to rollovers, so obviously a tall vehicle doesn't help. But for most people puttering around the suburbs it shouldn't be an issue.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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strange that all these new sedans and hatches come out with state of the art suspension, fuel efficient & powerful engines with loads of electronic safety features then the top sellers are oil burners with leaf springs and drum brakes on the back.
a Hyundai Santa Fe 2.2 diesel has 147kw and 440Nm a Hilux has a 2.8 diesel and only 130kw and 420Nm the hilux is much lower tech but still cost more and is still the number 1 seller i put it down to these utes still have a soul and character while modern cars have no soul, passion or feel, they are just a comfy place to sit while you get from a to b but thats no fun these utes are the new Falcon/Commodores they just need to put decent petrol engines into them ie: 5.0 coyt and 6.2 LS3's
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Debunks the fact that motorists are moving towards smaller and more compact cars.
Ranger does seem to be the new "bogan weapon of choice" They are versatile I'll give them that. |
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Watch out for Moose!!
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Join Date: May 2006
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They're practical multi-function vehicles. If Ford Australia had half a brain, they would bring in a select range of F series, factory RHD and at a reasonable cost. It would sell like hot cakes.
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No doubt Westfield, etc, will be making car parking spaces larger.
Or maybe not...
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It is quite astonishing that the Korean styled Camry has managed to outsell the VF Dunnydore... |
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I'm surprised Ranger is still doing so strong considering it's not exactly cheap.
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Toyota build such a great handling Hilux don't they.
https://youtu.be/xoHbn8-ROiQ
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For me I like a sedan or vehicle to be wide, low centre of gravity- cause best plans go awry- and this inherent dynamic will minimise rollover- which is a critical safety issue.
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Not a fan of the styling on all these new oversize dual cabs. They look like they've had an air hose hooked up to them and inflated full of air.
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Have you driven a Ranger? They are about the most soul-less, underpowered, over governed, sanitary thing that I've ever had the misfortune to pilot... then theres the door chime...
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They should have been made in Australia and marketed around the world as outback tough.
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I don't really understand the hate, maybe it's because falcon and commodore are no longer being produced ?
We bought a new Wildtrak and it's great. For a 5cyl diesel it's got plenty of grunt but obviously you can't compare it to a v8 or a 6t. But when buying one that's not what you are expecting anyway. The wife loves driving it as well with the extra height. Easy to get around in, has every feature and is a nice cabin to be in. We can thrown the dog in the back, go anywhere. Excellent to tow the boat. Great rig no complaints
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Join Date: Feb 2011
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Of course they are. We have a Triton, because it perfectly suits all the things we need to do. It's comfortable on trips, great on fuel, carries all the stuff we ever need and all the goodies my missus has for her market stall, is a capable 4x4 off road, and handles very well.
Unless you live in the golden south east corner of the state, a low riding car with licorice strip rubber on 19 or 20" tyres and stiff suspension is just worse than useless... We'd have had a Ranger in an instant except for the ludicrously high pricing...built in Thailand (probably in similar factories to what spit out things like the Triton), but if you want a diesel auto twin cab, you're looking at nearly sixty grand or more with a few options... ![]() Completely agree...the makers here didn't see this was the way the wind was blowing and now they're paying the price. Although I kind of do shudder to think what a Ranger would cost if built in Australia... |
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The hate Hmmmm. For those of us who can't swing the cash yet for something brand new, in the future (if not already) will be stuck with oversized dual cabs which have the excitement of a maths textbook or some kind of hideous SUV which boggles the mind on why people think these are superior to other vehicle types. The last option are soulless mostly hideous front wheel driven let's have no car culture in Australia anymore type vehicles. Many people buy these large dual cabs and think they are king s . . t (typical shirtless Cory type bloke pictured minus the white sunnies and bottles of ****) and think they own the road, push their way through traffic (and out bush, hog tracks, push smaller vehicles off the road, don't dip high beams and destroy tracks something chronic spinning 4 wheels (and 2wd aswell) with their 2.5t+ fat asses) They cost more to own, they are expensive to start with, when they have issues its expensive or not covered by warranty as its classically "in spec". They drive good for the bulk, they are quick (in auto) for their bulk and return good economy aswell. Most definitely absolutely soulless, nothing more than plastic and wizardry that is going to fail with enough abuse. I thought the 6 individual computers/modules in my NC were enough to have me begin hoarding the computers whilst frothing at the mouth. People said they don't buy falcon as they are thirsty and cost too much to run. What a load of bollocks. Dual cabs and SUV's are worse (except fuel economy is much in the muchness). Dad has an XLT Ranger, first non Falcon since I was a kid. It's nice but it will be the first vehicle I won't miss when it's gone. Apparently a steel bullbar, long range tank and canopy is enough to shoot the suspension to buggery ( low enough to have front cv angles inverted, rear springs are moulded around the axel) is normal and not covered under warranty. They are talked up way too much. People are too used to sinking the boot into Aussie cars to the point that people are under the impression imports can never do no wrong. Towing capability is unrivalled on the upside and are a good do everything vehicle for some people.
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This market is driven by the US. People have gotten fatter and fatter so enter the SUV. Commercial like space, easy access for fatty's.The next step, pretty up a hilux and bang, "sports trucks" are here which are farm vehicle's with big wheels and GT stripes imo. Watch the toll mount as idiots continue to drive these things like they are sports cars. Sorry if I have offended anybody who likes these, but I don't like them. I have driven some late model Nissan and Toyota commercials, and they are great for what they're designed for, but the lift kits, 20's and tinted windows...sorry, you look like an idiot.
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The typical "thinks he is king *****" driver that tries to push his way through traffic sounds like your typical SS owner. |
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Falcons & Commodores have had their hey day, times are changing so get use to it. |
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I have owned a few different Falcons and they were great but they aren't always going to suit everyones needs. I wouldn't say my Ranger is any more soulless than any other car I've owned before it. Sure its not as engaging to drive as the AU XR6 ute or BA GT but I still have as much fun with this car than I have in any others. I throw my mountain bike in the back and go bush, surfboard in the back then onto the beach, go camping, pick up loads of topsoil, dogs in the back, etc... all while fitting 5 people comfortably inside. Name me some other cars that are that versatile? Average fuel economy for either Falcon was 13-16/100. Ive done 32000km in the Ranger and have averaged 7.9l/100... On top of that its nearly 2 years old and haven't had a single warranty issue. I won't even bother about your generalisation about the types that buy them and their driving habits. Happens in all segments. I won't hesitate to replace this dual cab with another when the time comes. Got a clevo powered x-series in the shed for kicks. Happy days. |
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