Denied warranty on FGX XR8

superfly · 24-04-2015, 04:53 PM

Did anyone see this? I wouldn't have thought warranty would be denied for going down the quarter mile.

b2tf · 24-04-2015, 04:55 PM

It's never as simple as that. Always more to the story.

Trump · 24-04-2015, 04:57 PM

There is more to this story than just that grab from BookFayce.

superfly · 24-04-2015, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

There is more to this story than just that grab from BookFayce.

Fill us in as I'm interested.

99AUXR · 24-04-2015, 06:02 PM

Agreed. Tune then quarter mile [^_^]

DBourne · 24-04-2015, 06:02 PM

Not sure what Warrenty is, but sucks that they can't get it..

ford man xf · 24-04-2015, 06:03 PM

The first question I would be asking the owners of that particular car is what mods have been done?

**Sorted** · 24-04-2015, 06:06 PM

Was it a black one as if it was it was prob this one
https://youtu.be/p-yGuaOehUQ

40RDT · 24-04-2015, 06:09 PM

Even if they did go down the dragstrip can they deny warranty on a stock car? A failing supercharger at only 6500km you would be ****ed haha

Franco Cozzo · 24-04-2015, 06:27 PM

Ah well perfect excuse for an upgrade now, send them to some of our sponsors.

Road_Warrior · 24-04-2015, 06:57 PM

You play, you pay.

STINKY NINJA · 24-04-2015, 07:03 PM

Unless you are doing an fpv track day any form of motorsport voids warranty,everyone knows that,and as road warrior says,you play you pay...

Franco Cozzo · 24-04-2015, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

You play, you pay.

On the other hand though, here is our super duper fast new car! It can do blah blah blah blah blah look how fast it is.

But you can't use any of it, because if you take it to the track or 1/4 mile there is no warranty for you.

**Fordman1** · 24-04-2015, 07:06 PM

Tune + drag = bad .....

Hally · 24-04-2015, 07:11 PM

Actually Renault provide a warranty for the Megane RS for track days and club motorsport.

Franco Cozzo · 24-04-2015, 07:13 PM

We're assuming here the car was tuned, lets assume it wasn't I still think they should be covered under warranty assuming the car is 100% factory.

Isn't this supposed to be a "sports" car?

RB Snake · 24-04-2015, 07:24 PM

It's a performance car ffs. A supercharged V8 should be able to run down a drag strip issue free, why do they think people buy these.

Whitey-AMG · 24-04-2015, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by STINKY NINJA

Unless you are doing an fpv track day any form of motorsport voids warranty,everyone knows that,and as road warrior says,you play you pay...

Because its not considered a Motorsport event.
Its a drive day experience. Driver safety learning and instructions etc...
Mind you, if you bend the car, you may still have issues with your insurer regardless.

Either way, its only a performance car.... til it breaks....then Fraud roll their eyes and treat it like any other standard car. You can't win. Performance price tag and performance marketing with low to nil performance back up.
Same for most marques I guess.

Ruination · 24-04-2015, 07:35 PM

From what I can gather, Ford have come up with the assumption that they took it down to the drags because of a spike in the ECU log.

40RDT · 24-04-2015, 07:39 PM

If ford cant prove they took it to a drag strip can they still void warranty? Even if they did you would think they would back their product a bit better than that

usernametaken · 24-04-2015, 07:43 PM

Why buy a performance car if you cant use the performance?

Drag strip or a back street - shouldn't matter.

The car and engine are detuned to handle lesser conditions so that they can provide a warranty.

If everything is stock then pay up Ford.

**Fordman1** · 24-04-2015, 07:51 PM

ECU work done.

SensationFG8 · 24-04-2015, 07:56 PM

Do we know that for sure or are we just assuming?

Ford17 · 24-04-2015, 08:10 PM

There are two sides to every story.

asagaai · 24-04-2015, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by usernametaken

Why buy a performance car if you cant use the performance?

Drag strip or a back street - shouldn't matter.

The car and engine are detuned to handle lesser conditions so that they can provide a warranty.

If everything is stock then pay up Ford.

Buying a car is a contractual arrangement with statutory warranties deemed to also apply..

Ford owes statutory warranties to provide a merchantable quality product fit for purpose. This statutory warranty on balance will likely be read fit for purpose to use on the roadway, not fit for purpose to use on a racetrack/dragstrip.

Ford in addition to the statutory warranty provides a contractual warranty, warrantying the car for 3 years, subject to the terms and conditions of that contractual warranty. I assume that the contractual warranty will exclude warranty in event car was used motor racing, and depending on definitions in the contract most likely will exclude drag strip and circuit racing etc.

Likewise any tune will negate Fords statutory warranty, because the car that failed was not the merchantable quality fit for purpose product Ford provided, that product no longer exists, it has morphed into a different product by the modifications.

Likewise the contractual warranty will exclude liability for performance modifications- need to look at terms and conditions.

This is not rocket science and Ford as a business also needs to operate as a commercial enterprise that is viable.

So-if the owner got a tune or was drag racing- you play you pay...

Me- I am going to get an intercooler and "conservative" tune when the car checks out and when I get used to its performance envelope, and if there is a mechanical failure which arises from the extra power from tune I have made the decision to self warrant....

**Polyal** · 24-04-2015, 08:39 PM

Of course the car can hack it, but if it's been tuned then it's all over. Ford spend millions on tuning and someone thinks a tune shop offer greater reliability?

usernametaken · 24-04-2015, 08:45 PM

I agree 100%

So if you're going to fang it, do it away from the strip..

In this day and age (with speeding being worse than murder), it clearly doesn't make sense, lol

:-)

chrisandsharon · 24-04-2015, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluey-GT

Because its not considered a Motorsport event.
Its a drive day experience. Driver safety learning and instructions etc...
Mind you, if you bend the car, you may still have issues with your insurer regardless.

Either way, its only a performance car.... til it breaks....then Fraud roll their eyes and treat it like any other standard car. You can't win. Performance price tag and performance marketing with low to nil performance back up.
Same for most marques I guess.

Never did my FPV drive day as my insurance company stated I would not be covered - period. I sent them all the info about the day and was a no go. It went right up to one of the insurance companies head honchos and was denied......bit of a bummer.

HULK_I6T · 24-04-2015, 09:02 PM

Has to be tuned... owner prob flashed it back to stock and thinks noone would know. Can understand fords view

In saying that i used to own a VW GTi. It had dump pipe, cat, FMIC tuned to 22psi and intake

Took it in under warranty to tighten up turbo bolts as they were known to come loose. Service manager was wide eyed at all the mods but took it in and did the work. They took it for a good spin and all were happy. Top service.

**Silver Ghia** · 24-04-2015, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

Has to be tuned... owner prob flashed it back to stock and thinks noone would know. Can understand fords view

Ford can tell that it had been tuned even when its back to stock tune.

When its been tuned, bye bye factory warranty. Even when the car has been sold on to another owner, the new owner then wears the consequences when something goes wrong, even if they are driving normally. Has happened before.