Just got a Fiesta WT Zetec

Dgalle · 26-08-2011, 10:44 AM

Hey all. I just picked up my new-ish car - a WT Fiesta Zetec, 5 door in Phantom Blue. It was first registered in January 2011, and only has 7,000km on it.

One thing - only got one key (plus the valet key). Any idea where / how much to get a replacement from?

Fiesta_Man69 · 26-08-2011, 11:14 AM

All new Fiestas should come with 2 sets of keys/immobilisers. If yours only has 7K kms on it then the dealership really should have them both, otherwise they're a few hundred to replace.

Dgalle · 26-08-2011, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiesta_Man69

All new Fiestas should come with 2 sets of keys/immobilisers. If yours only has 7K kms on it then the dealership really should have them both, otherwise they're a few hundred to replace.

Thanks mate. Going to see them this afternoon to hit them up for another one - wish I'd insisted before signing :(

vhcbm · 26-08-2011, 12:30 PM

Just tell them you should of had 2, they might throw it in.

Dgalle · 26-08-2011, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vhcbm

Just tell them you should of had 2, they might throw it in.

Will do. I got a pretty good deal on the car, so will see how I go.

trumpy73 · 26-08-2011, 02:06 PM

The original owner probably lost it so they cut a cheap one as replacement. I doubt they'll give you another one out of goodwill (most don't see the big picture) but you never know.

Dgalle · 26-08-2011, 03:06 PM

One other thing. According to Redbook the WT Zetec was released in October 2010. But my manufacturer's plate on the door pillar has the manufactured date as June 2010 (compliance July 2010). Am I missing something?

Also, the manufacturer's plate mentions Germany (Ford GMBH), but not Thailand. Is this normal?

Thanks for everyone's help. I reckon I'll be visiting here lots!

In Focus · 26-08-2011, 03:22 PM

Sounds like it could be a WS?

trumpy73 · 26-08-2011, 03:34 PM

Yeah (don't take my word for it) but Jun10 smells WS to me. Who said WT to you?
You can check the VIN to confirm.

You can also tell from the dashboard I believe. The WS has a soft db when you push with your finger, the WT has a hard more plastic-y feel.

PS: My wife's WS is jun built and july compliance.

Moorie · 26-08-2011, 03:37 PM

I have a month old WT Zetec and it was only supplied with one central locking flip key and the other is the valet key that the OP mentions. This may be a further cut back that Ford has made. (Had a look at the WT brochure and it states '...remote central locking with flip key and spare key)
My compliance plate also has Ford Werke GMBH, but a quick Google search shows that represents the parent company, and probably there to make most people think they are getting a European made car. However, if your VIN starts with MNB... then it's a Thai sourced vehicle from AutoAlliance Thailand. German VIN's start with WF0 or WF1.

Cheers Moorie.

Cheech · 26-08-2011, 03:45 PM

WT's were only supplied with one flip key and one non-flip key. Cost cutting.

trumpy73 · 26-08-2011, 03:47 PM

WT
No key
No Spare wheel
No Jack

WE
No back seat
No handbrake
No Paint

Dgalle · 26-08-2011, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trumpy73

Yeah (don't take my word for it) but Jun10 smells WS to me. Who said WT to you?
You can check the VIN to confirm.

You can also tell from the dashboard I believe. The WS has a soft db when you push with your finger, the WT has a hard more plastic-y feel.

PS: My wife's WS is jun built and july compliance.

Nope definitely WT. Have checked the VIN. Plus it:
- has storage tray under passenger seat
- doesn't have height adjustable steering wheel
- didn't have a spare (but just got dealer to swap it)
- has the chrome do-dads on the front bumper.

I'll post a pic of the compliance plate later. Mate someone can shed some light on it for me. Do other WT's has Thailand on the manufacturer's plate?

Caydus · 26-08-2011, 05:01 PM

I thought that WT Zetecs got 2 remotes while LXs and CLs got 1. Or maybe the dealer was just misinformed...

Dgalle · 26-08-2011, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trumpy73

...but Jun10 smells WS to me. ... You can check the VIN to confirm.

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

I'm confused! The VIN is definitely a WT, but the build date seems to be before first WT's were made??? Anyone got any ideas?

caprispecial · 26-08-2011, 05:55 PM

I bought my wt lx in dec 10 and I thought that the zetecs werent released till about march11. The plot thickens.

Moorie · 26-08-2011, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dgalle

Do other WT's has Thailand on the manufacturer's plate?

No mate, as mentioned above, I have a WT and the plate is as yours. The MNB at the start of the VIN designates that it is a Thai built model, not the wording above that.

In Focus · 26-08-2011, 10:33 PM

Put your VIN in here and see what comes up.

http://www.etis.ford.com/vehicleRegS...7856E.walv0672

AG3 · 27-08-2011, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dgalle

One other thing. According to Redbook the WT Zetec was released in October 2010. But my manufacturer's plate on the door pillar has the manufactured date as June 2010 (compliance July 2010). Am I missing something?

Production usually starts months before the car is released, but June, 2010 sounds kind of too early because Ford started Fiesta production in Thailand only on July 2010.

I think the only existing Thai-built Fiestas before July 2010 were the pre-production models.

Dgalle · 27-08-2011, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In Focus

Put your VIN in here and see what comes up.

http://www.etis.ford.com/vehicleRegS...7856E.walv0672

Here's the results:

Primary Features Build Date: 09.06.2010Vehicle Line: Fiesta 2010- B299ABody Style: 5 Door SaloonVersion: Series 30Engine: 1.6L TIVCT PFI SigmaTransmission: 5 Speed Manual Transaxle - B5/IB5Drive: RHD FWDAxle Ratio: 4.07Emission: Stage IV EmissionsAir Conditioning: Manual Air ConditioningPaint: Phantom BlueInterior Colour: Syracus

So it was made in June 2010, but is definitely a WT. Wonder if I have a pre-produciton model or something.....the mystery continues!

Caydus · 27-08-2011, 06:53 PM

I was wondering what the difference is between the WTs we have here and the latest incarnation of the MK7 the pommies drive around.

Moorie · 27-08-2011, 08:15 PM

Wonder if it was brought out earlier than the official release date to be shown at one of the motor shows that are usually on August to October.

trumpy73 · 27-08-2011, 08:17 PM

Check under MINOR features to see where it was built.

Mine says

Minor Features
Niehl Plant Built (which is GERMANY)

Dgalle · 27-08-2011, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moorie

Wonder if it was brought out earlier than the official release date to be shown at one of the motor shows that are usually on August to October.

Hmm. That sounds like a likely explanation.

Dgalle · 27-08-2011, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by trumpy73

Check under MINOR features to see where it was built.

Mine says

Minor Features
Niehl Plant Built (which is GERMANY)

When I searched the VIN there were no minor features listed (my previous post was the complete vehicle summary that the search returned)

Moorie · 27-08-2011, 09:52 PM

Just put my VIN in, if you have a look under the 'minor features' it says something like this (you have to click on it to open the detailed view, as below):
Minor Features

Syracus
Less Rear Mudflaps
Front Scuff Plates - Bright
Less Front Mudflaps
Less Hill Launch Assist
Rayong Assembly Plant - Thailand
Less Marketing Flex Prep Pack
Zetec-S Sales Badge
Safety Pack 1
Cooling Pack II
Brand Owner - Ford
Less Fire Extinguisher Fixings
Less Jack
Kit - Enhanced Tyre Repair SVC
With Rear Package Tray
Power Front Windows One Touch Up/Do
With Electric Rear Windows
Green Tinted Glass All Round
With Laminated Windscreen
With Glove Box Lid
With Bin Type Console
With Console Cup Holder
Interior Feature Colour - Syracus
Side/Rear Door Trim Panel-Level 1
With Footrest
With Instrument Panel Stowage Box
Drivers Visor Mir/Flap/Tick Pocket
With Black Interior Door Handles
With Cloth Door Trim Panel Insert
With Load Floor Carpet
First Aid Retain Strap
With W/Triangle. Retainer Straps
With Load Compartment Side Trim
With Sport Grille
Grille Mouldings - Bright
Less Belt Moulding
With Large Single Wing Rear Spoiler
With Dipping Rear View Mirror
With Drivers Power Mirror
With Power Passenger Mirror
With Driver Seat Back Map Pocket
Passenger Seat Back Map Pocket
Passenger Seat Cushion Extension
With Front 2 Way Headrest
With Fixed Rear Seat Cushion
With Split Fold-Down Rear Seat
With 2 Way Adjustable Rear Headrest
With Rear Center Head Restraint
Seat Back Material-Carpeted
With Drvr/Passngr Seat Belt Minder
With Driver 4 Way Mnl.Seat Adjuster
With Pass 2 Way Manual Seat Adjust
With Front Tow Hooks
With Rear Tow Hooks
Less Trailer Coupling
Body Coloured Exterior Door Handle
Body Coloured Tailgate Handle
Leather/Aluminium Gearshift Knob
Soft Feel Gear Shift Boot
With Child Proof Safety Lock
With Power Lock Group
Door Entry R/Cont Unit - Flip Key
With Trans Linked Rr Washer/Wiper
V/Intermittent With Anti-Drip Wipe
Plastic Front Bumper -Sport
Rear Bumper - Plastic Sport
Air Crtn Rstrnt LH
With 3 Point Seat Belts
With 2 Static Rear Seat Belts
With Driver Air Bag
With Passenger Air Bag
Less Passenger Air Bag Deactivation
With Isofix Hard Point Attachment
With Manual Adjust Frt.S.Belt Mount
Seat Belt Pretensioners Drv/Pass
Less Spare Wheel
Style 4 Alloy 16" Wheel
Less Spare Tyre
Non Locking Lug Nuts
Less Frame Mounted Fuel Filter
Cold Start -15 Deg C
With Sports Tuned Suspension
With Front Stabilizer Bar
4.07
With Plastic Moulded H/Brake Grip
With Mechanical Parking Brake
With Front Disc-Brake/Rr Drum Brake
With IVD/Traction Control/ABS
Less Anti-Spin Traction System
Gear 3.58/1.93/1.28/0.95/0.76
With Recirculating Heater
With Ethanol Fuel Capability
With 91 Octane Level Gasoline
With Electric Power Steering
With Tilting Only Steering Column
Strg Whl-A/Bag+Audio+Cruise Control
With Speed Control
Low Series Analog Cluster
With KMH Speedo
With Trip Computer
With Tachometer
Dual Note Electric Horn
Less Reverse Proximity Sensor
With Anti-Theft Alarm
With Engine Immobilizer - Integral
Standard Duty Battery
With A/V Jack And USB
BT/VC Phone Interface + USB Connect
Roof Mounted Radio Antenna
ICE-Mid Level CD+AM/FM Radio
Ice Feature Pack 4
Highline ICE ICP
4 Speakers Front / 2 Speakers Rear
Less Telephone Preparation Pack
Voice Activated Module - British
With Steering Wheel Radio Controls
Hazard Warning Switch/Pad Lamp
Less Smokers Package
With Power Point Plug
With Dual Headlamp
Front Fog Lamps - Sport
Less Interior Light Group
With Footwell Lights
Header Mounted Courtesy/Maplights
With Courtesy Light Delay
With Load Compartment Lamp
With High Mounted Stop Lamp
With Single Rear Fog Lamp
With Conventional Headlamp Control
With RH Front Courtesy Light Switch
With Rear Courtesy Light Switch
Metropolitan Grey (Mica)

There are more minor features for this vehicle, click to expand this list.

Dgalle · 27-08-2011, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moorie

if you have a look under the 'minor features' it says something like this (you have to click on it to open the detailed Light Switch

As my previous post, on my vehicle details there are NO minor features. All it lists is the stuff I posted. Reckon I might call Ford on Monday, but dont know if I'll actually find someone that can help me.....

At least if it is pre-production or was for car shows then I'd imagine the finish quality should be pretty high....

In Focus · 27-08-2011, 10:21 PM

Try changing the last number up or down one or two digits. You might pick up another car built on the same day.

Dgalle · 27-08-2011, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In Focus

Try changing the last number up or down one or two digits. You might pick up another car built on the same day.

OK cool. Added 1 to the VIN got a diesel zetec, made in Thailand for the Australian market. Which means that either mine is
A) a pre-production model (first WT Zetec?)
B) made for display at car shows?
C) a result of huge lead times between manufacturing and delivery, maybe Ford stockpiled to ensure availability?

Thanks for all the help. It's still a bit of a mystery, but at least I have confirmed that it is a WT and was made in Thailand.

GoesLikeAZetec · 27-08-2011, 11:59 PM

Good luck finding anyone in Ford who has any idea mate, let alone one that cares about finding out.

In general Ford Oz dont know anything about the fiesta's.

We seem to know more about them in here than they do.