Covid 19 -

[russellw]

Data valid as at 23:45 GMT September 26th, 2020.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting except for the Victorian 14 day moving averages.
16 new cases for Australia and 1 death so the CMR rises to 3.220% while active cases drop to 1,575. NSW recorded 1 case, Queensland recorded 3, WA recorded one case and the balance were in Victoria.

The Victorian State 14 day moving average is now 25.71 with metro at 22.1 (31 unknown) and regional at 0.6 and no unknown cases. The 106 cases for Victoria is 58% lower than the previous week and the 26 deaths is the lowest since late July. Victoria reported 16 new cases for the last 24 hours.

2 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.365% and active cases rise to 61.

The UK had 6,041 new cases yesterday. We know they are now not counting their mortalities by the WHO guidelines so we are going to ignore those figures.

Just under 59k new cases in the USA yesterday and 920 deaths sees CMR drop to 2.877% and active cases drop to 35.3% with the raw numbers rising slightly. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
Global new cases pass 33M with the last 1M coming up in 3 days and the (sad) milestone of 1M deaths will likely be passed in the coming 24 hours;
Global cases reached a new high of 317,951 on the 25th;
Europe recorded a new daily case high of 60,449;
The USA completes 103M, India 70M and Canada 7M tests;

Moldova (868), Lebanon (1,280), Poland (1,587) and the Ukraine (3,833)all recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

[Romulus]

https://www.spectator.com.au/2020/06...El3KQCukE_gRI8

[Tickford.]

Top 15 countries with a 14-day cumulative total of reported COVID-19 cases, per 100'000 population. Data is as of yesterday (26 September 2020).

India_____1'238'176
USA______592'690
Brazil_____402'304
Argentina__166'781
France____153'535
Spain_____150'155
Colombia__97'074
Russia____86'209
Peru______77'310
Israel_____73'883
UK_______64'103
Mexico____62'458
Iraq______59'191
Indonesia__56'582
Iran______43'146


Gives you an idea of which countries are currently in trouble with the virus. India is just out of control!

In comparison, China has had 288. And Australia 409.

[Fed]

Those numbers make no sense to me Tickford.
GPS co-ordinates? If that's the case then India is off the Planet.
100,000 Indians caught covid 1,238,176 times over 14 Days?
Oh well, I'm old and it's 4 AM here.

[cs123]

Originally Posted by Fed

Those numbers make no sense to me Tickford.
GPS co-ordinates? If that's the case then India is off the Planet.
100,000 Indians caught covid 1,238,176 times over 14 Days?
Oh well, I'm old and it's 4 AM here.

Replace the ' with ,

India 1,238,176

[naddis01]

Originally Posted by Fed

Those numbers make no sense to me Tickford.
GPS co-ordinates? If that's the case then India is off the Planet.
100,000 Indians caught covid 1,238,176 times over 14 Days?
Oh well, I'm old and it's 4 AM here.

I don't get it either.

Does it mean in India on average 88441 people per 100000 have caught Covid over the last 14 days?

1238176/14 = 88441

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by naddis01

I don't get it either.

You & Me Both...

[russellw]

Originally Posted by naddis01

I don't get it either.

Does it mean in India on average 88441 people per 100000 have caught Covid over the last 14 days?

1238176/14 = 88441

In an effort to clarify.

Over the last 14 days to 26/9, India has recorded 1,238,725 cases (the highest of any country). The Indian population is 1.38 Billion (roughly) so that's 89.64 cases per 100k in that 14 day span so I think that table is looking at total cases not cases per 100k.

Here is the rest of that table (up to the 26th), sorted into the right order with a few (in blue) added:

Israel: 74,378 cases; 8.7M population; 856.3 / 100k
Argentina: 156,003 cases; 156M population; 345.17 / 100k
France: 153,535 cases; 65.2M population; 235.2 / 100k
Peru: 76,912 cases; 32.9M population; 233.66 / 100k
Moldova: 7,820 cases; 4.03M population; 193.85 / 100k
Spain: 89,433 cases (to the 25th); 46.7M population; 191.3 / 100k
Colombia: 97,074 cases; 50.9M population; 190.78 / 100k
Brazil: 403,949 cases; 212M population; 190.04 / 100k
USA: 610,960 cases; 331M population; 184.6 / 100k
Lebanon: 11,573 cases; 6.8M population; 169.56 / 100k
Netherlands: 27,619 cases; 17.1M population; 161.2 / 100k
Iraq: 59,246 cases; 40.2M population; 147.3 / 100k
Hungary: 11,252 cases; 9.6M population; 116.5 / 100k
UAE: 11,769 cases; 9.8M population; 118.99 / 100k
Denmark: 6,637 cases; 5.79M population; 114.58 / 100k
Ukraine: 43,907 cases; 43.7M population; 100.39 / 100k
Romania: 18,849 cases; 19.2M population; 97.9 / 100k
UK: 64,103 cases; 67.8M population; 94.4 / 100k
India: 1,238,725 cases; 1.3B population; 89.64 / 100k
Russia: 86,209 cases; 145.9M population; 59.0 / 100k
Iran: 43,146 cases; 83.9M population; 51.36 / 100k
Mexico: 62,569 cases; 128M population; 48.5 / 100k
Poland: 12,330 cases; 37.8M population; 32.58 / 100k
Indonesia: 56,593 cases; 273.5M population; 20.7 / 100k

[naddis01]

Originally Posted by russellw

... so I think that table is looking at total cases not cases per 100k...

That is what I thought but he had the per 100k in bold.

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by russellw

I think that table is looking at total cases not cases per 100k.

Correct. My bad. It was the total number of confirmed cases in the 14 days leading up to 26th September. Not per 100'000 as I stated.

I was looking at a totally different chart and got myself mixed up. Apologise.

[asagaai]

Here is an article by Professor Swan at UNSW about the financial impact of a further lockdown due to Covid 19 in NSW and the effects on property and liquidations of companies as a result.

His line is that NSW cannot afford another lockdown for a pandemic that relatively speaking is rather innocuous insofar as pandemics go.

Sort of a similar view to Romulus with rather less of the vitriolic edge.

https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/bu...uring-pandemic

[russellw]

Data valid as at 23:59 GMT September 27th, 2020.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting except for the Victorian 14 day moving averages.

24 new cases for Australia and 2 deaths so the CMR rises to 3.222% while active cases rise to 1,595. NSW recorded no cases for the first time since July 3rd (85 days); Queensland recorded 1, WA recorded 7 cases and the balance were in Victoria.

The Victorian State 14 day moving average is now 23.93 with metro at 20.3 (31 unknown) and regional at 0.6 and no unknown cases. Victoria reported 5 new cases for the last 24 hours.

2 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.364% and active cases drop to 59.

The UK had 5,692 new cases yesterday. We know they are now not counting their mortalities by the WHO guidelines so we are going to ignore those figures.

Just over 43k new cases in the USA yesterday and 737 deaths sees CMR drop to 2.870% and active cases drop to 35.0% with the raw numbers falling slightly. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
Global deaths pass the 1M mark;
India passes 6M cases;
The USA completes 104M, India 71M, Russia 45M, Italy 11M and Turkey 10M tests;

Only the Netherlands (2,995) recorded a new daily high; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

[russellw]

Data valid as at 23:47 GMT September 28th, 2020.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting except for the Victorian 14 day moving averages.

4 new cases for Australia and 3 deaths so the CMR rises to 3.235% while active cases drop to 1,493. All recorded cases were in Victoria.

The Victorian State 14 day moving average is now 21.79 with metro at 18.2 (27 unknown) and regional at 0.6 and no unknown cases. Victoria reported 10 new cases for the last 24 hours.

No new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.364% and active cases drop to 55.

The UK had 4,044 new cases yesterday, an improvement on last week. We know they are now not counting their mortalities by the WHO guidelines so we are going to ignore those figures.

Just over 36.5k new cases in the USA yesterday and 276 deaths sees CMR drop to 2.860% and active cases drop to 34.9% with the raw numbers rising slightly. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
The USA completes 105M, UK 24M and Spain 12M test;

None of the countries we watch recorded a new daily high; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

[russellw]

Following on from the 14 day cases per 100k of yesterday, there are a few other countries in the 200+ club including: Bahrain (522); Costa Rica (321); Czechia (200.3) and Panama (210).

There are also several in the 100-199 bracket, including: Kuwait (199.2); Belgium (178.8); Oman (153.4); Palestine (152.1); Paraguay (143); Libya (141.1); Bangladesh (126.9); Armenia (121.7); Chile (121.4); Qatar (115.8); Austria (109.8); Romania (102.7) and Bosnia (102.6).

By way of comparison, the Australian 14 day total is 352 cases for 3.3 cases / 100k and even during the worst 14-day period we have had when we recorded 6,750 cases between 26th July and 8th August, that was still only 63.75 cases / 100k.

[buggerlugs]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-...harts/12710378

We have hit a million deaths world wide.........

[russellw]

Data valid as at 23:59 GMT September 29th, 2020.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting except for the Victorian 14 day moving averages.

11 new cases for Australia and 7 deaths so the CMR rises to 3.260% while active cases rise to 1,497. NSW recorded 1 case, WA had 8 with the balance in Victoria.

The Victorian State 14 day moving average is now 19.5 with metro at 16.4 (21 unknown) and regional at 0.3 and no unknown cases. Victoria reported 13 new cases for the last 24 hours.

2 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.361% and active cases remain at 55.

The UK had 7,143 new cases yesterday, the highest since April 9th. We know they are now not counting their mortalities by the WHO guidelines so we are going to ignore the CMR but even using their method they had 71 deaths yesterday.

Just under 38k new cases in the USA yesterday and 355 deaths sees CMR drop to 2.850% and active cases drop to 34.5% with the raw numbers falling. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
The USA completes 106M, India 73M and Nepal 1M tests;
South America passes 8M cases;
South America passes 250k deaths;

Only the Netherlands (3,011) recorded a new daily high; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

[xxx000]

It sounds to me like you wholeheartedly agree with Alan Jones and therein lies the problem.
Jones has a history of trying to run the country via the airwaves with his abrasive approach to most things.
He regularly ignores science and has been known to rally against something publically but actually support it. A walking contradiction or do as I say not as I do type of person.
His blatant political bias means he'll say whatever it takes to lead his listeners so Andrews was always doomed and Gladys praised whatever the reality.

Jones is probably the last person anyone should be taking Covid19 advice from

[Citroënbender]

I believe he’s in a demographic (by age) at greater risk of mortality if they contract this virus. So to some extent, he’s putting his own neck on the line.

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

I believe he’s in a demographic (by age) at greater risk of mortality if they contract this virus. So to some extent, he’s putting his own neck on the line.

If you're guessing my age, 46-50 group.

[Citroënbender]

No, Jonesy.

[Work Horse]

It seems there is some magical thinking going on in this thread.

AKA the government response to the global pandemic is causing a rapid decline in the economy, rather than the pandemic is causing economic decline.

Therefore if we have no government response to the global pandemic there would be no economic decline, or if we have less government response we will have less economic decline.

Some wish it was that simple because it allows them to score political points.

Sweden! What about Sweden? It is true Sweden did not mandate a lock down. Swedish people still stayed home, economic activity declined and the economy still took a big hit. It was the pandemic that trashed Sweden’s economy not the government response.

There is no debating the world economy is in for a very rough time because of the Covid-19 pandemic. Attempting to lay the blame for the economic fall out on this government or that government will distract us from the huge challenge we need to face united. Remember the national cabinet at the start of this thing? That is how governments can work for the people that elected them, when they focus on us and not political point scoring for themselves. As has been said when this pandemic is over we will be feeling the economic repercussions for much longer.

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by xxx000

It sounds to me like you wholeheartedly agree with Alan Jones and therein lies the problem.
Jones has a history of trying to run the country via the airwaves with his abrasive approach to most things.
He regularly ignores science and has been known to rally against something publically but actually support it. A walking contradiction or do as I say not as I do type of person.
His blatant political bias means he'll say whatever it takes to lead his listeners so Andrews was always doomed and Gladys praised whatever the reality.

Jones is probably the last person anyone should be taking Covid19 advice from

Yep, whole heartedly agree with Jones on most of his positions. His position on matters is what made him #1 on the airwave for years on end to his listeners. Now he has an hour long segment on Skynews. You'd also have guessed by now I don't believe a thing from ABC, Ch. 7, 9, Ten or SBS. I'm not asking you to agree, you're entitled to your opinion. It's a problem for you, not me.

What do you recommend the government does to salvage the economy and deal with this virus?

[xxx000]

Originally Posted by Romulus

Yep, whole heartedly agree with Jones on most of his positions. His position on matters is what made him #1 on the airwave for years on end to his listeners. Now he has an hour long segment on Skynews. You'd also have guessed by now I don't believe a thing from ABC, Ch. 7, 9, Ten or SBS. I'm not asking you to agree, you're entitled to your opinion. It's a problem for you, not me.

What do you recommend the government does to salvage the economy and deal with this virus?

So I assume like him you:

Were against building the Toaster building in Macquarie St?

Wanted Bronwyn Bishop for PM?

Jones doesn't have listeners he has followers who don't seem to notice the numerous 180's he does on topics but enjoy being coaxed into anger most days.
He sadly believes that 'common sense' (his version of it) refutes science so he takes the anti science view frequently. He's an unwanted distraction in the battle against Covid19

[buggerlugs]

Originally Posted by xxx000

So I assume like him you:

Were against building the Toaster building in Macquarie St?

Wanted Bronwyn Bishop for PM?

Jones doesn't have listeners he has followers who don't seem to notice the numerous 180's he does on topics but enjoy being coaxed into anger most days.
He sadly believes that 'common sense' (his version of it) refutes science so he takes the anti science view frequently. He's an unwanted distraction in the battle against Covid19

He doesn't mind on the odd occasion a nice public toilet either

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by buggerlugs

He doesn't mind on the odd occasion a nice public toilet either

Or selling his Opinion to the Highest Bidder Either..

[russellw]

Data valid as at 23:58 GMT September 30th, 2020.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting except for the Victorian 14 day moving averages.

23 new cases for Australia and 4 deaths so the CMR rises to 3.272% while active cases drop to 1,438. NSW recorded 4 cases with the balance in Victoria.

The Victorian State 14 day moving average is now 17.43 with metro at 15.6 (19 unknown) and regional at 0.3 and no unknown cases. Victoria reported 15 new cases for the last 24 hours.

1 new case and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.361% and active cases drop to 44.

The UK had a slightly lower 7,108 new cases yesterday. We know they are now not counting their mortalities by the WHO guidelines so we are going to ignore the CMR but even using their method they had 71 deaths again yesterday.

Just under 44.5k new cases in the USA yesterday and 977 deaths sees CMR drop to 2.846% and active cases drop to 34.4% with the raw numbers rising. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
Global cases pass 34M with the last 1M taking 4 days this time;
The USA completes 107M, India 74M, Russia 40M and Iran 4M tests;
Europe passes 5M cases;

Moldova (1,013), AE (1,100), Romania (2,518), Netherlands (3,294), Ukraine (4,027) and Argentina (14,392) all recorded a new daily high; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive days.

Despite only reporting occasionally, Guadeloupe has gone from very few cases to over 5k in a matter of weeks. Historically, they had ~50 cases during March and then none until ~70 at the end of July with another short gap before racking up ~990 cases in the last three weeks of August.

Let's look at this another way. To the end of July they had 244 total cases. By the end of August this had grown to 1,145 cases but this last month added another 4,383 cases to make that total 5,528.

Bear in mind that this is a small island with a population of ~400k so that's 1,381 cases per 100k and the 47 deaths equate to 11.7 / 100k.

[Romulus]

Yes, you assume.

What you’ve not done is provide a way out of this mess we’re in.

[xxx000]

Originally Posted by Romulus

Yes, you assume.

What you’ve not done is provide a way out of this mess we’re in.

I'm not a health care professional or an economist so can't do that.
Can you and what are your quals to back that up?

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by xxx000

I'm not a health care professional or an economist so can't do that.

Edited. Not going to fall for your bait.

What’s you’re solution to this mess?

[BENT_8]

Got a rude shock yesterday, been on Jobkeeper since beginning of April which was due to be reduced on Sunday.
Our roster cycle is Monday to Sunday and figured anything earnt prior to midnight Sunday would be subsidized so it was quite a shock when i received my weekly pay slip yesterday and the top up was absent.
After doing a little digging it appears that because we get paid for the preceeding week on the following Wednesday and this Wednesday is after the reduction date, it doesnt qualify for the full subsidy.
Not complaining, its been very good but a stupid way to finish off as anyone ive spoken to figured last week would be included and has caught many off gaurd.