Covid 19 -

[Citroënbender]

I believe he’s in a demographic (by age) at greater risk of mortality if they contract this virus. So to some extent, he’s putting his own neck on the line.

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

I believe he’s in a demographic (by age) at greater risk of mortality if they contract this virus. So to some extent, he’s putting his own neck on the line.

If you're guessing my age, 46-50 group.

[Citroënbender]

No, Jonesy.

[Work Horse]

It seems there is some magical thinking going on in this thread.

AKA the government response to the global pandemic is causing a rapid decline in the economy, rather than the pandemic is causing economic decline.

Therefore if we have no government response to the global pandemic there would be no economic decline, or if we have less government response we will have less economic decline.

Some wish it was that simple because it allows them to score political points.

Sweden! What about Sweden? It is true Sweden did not mandate a lock down. Swedish people still stayed home, economic activity declined and the economy still took a big hit. It was the pandemic that trashed Sweden’s economy not the government response.

There is no debating the world economy is in for a very rough time because of the Covid-19 pandemic. Attempting to lay the blame for the economic fall out on this government or that government will distract us from the huge challenge we need to face united. Remember the national cabinet at the start of this thing? That is how governments can work for the people that elected them, when they focus on us and not political point scoring for themselves. As has been said when this pandemic is over we will be feeling the economic repercussions for much longer.

[PhilT2]

Originally Posted by Work Horse

There is no debating the world economy is in for a very rough time because of the Covid-19 pandemic. Attempting to lay the blame for the economic fall out on this government or that government will distract us from the huge challenge we need to face united. Remember the national cabinet at the start of this thing? That is how governments can work for the people that elected them, when they focus on us and not political point scoring for themselves. As has been said when this pandemic is over we will be feeling the economic repercussions for much longer.

No matter what our govt does foreign tourists are not going to get on a plane with their fellow countrymen unless they can be confident of not getting infected on the trip. I would be interested in seeing the cost of a current travel insurance policy and what it will cover.
Foreign students are not going to come here either unless their parents feel they can travel and live here safely. Together these two sources of revenue account for a lot of our economy and there will not be a full recovery without them.
I still hold out hope that the rollout of a vaccine will put us into recovery in the latter part of next year. Two things are needed for that to happen; a massive effort to produce and distribute the shot and the scientists to get it right.

[PG2]

Originally Posted by PhilT2

No matter what our govt does foreign tourists are not going to get on a plane with their fellow countrymen unless they can be confident of not getting infected on the trip. I would be interested in seeing the cost of a current travel insurance policy and what it will cover.
Foreign students are not going to come here either unless their parents feel they can travel and live here safely. Together these two sources of revenue account for a lot of our economy and there will not be a full recovery without them.
I still hold out hope that the rollout of a vaccine will put us into recovery in the latter part of next year. Two things are needed for that to happen; a massive effort to produce and distribute the shot and the scientists to get it right.

To be honest, if a vaccine was to come out any time soon I would be a little hesitant. I hate needles at the best of times, but I'll be thinking twice before allowing someone to jab me with something that has not stood the test of time. Yep, I'm probably being a little selfish there but everyone else can be my guinea pig.

Originally Posted by Work Horse

It seems there is some magical thinking going on in this thread.

AKA the government response to the global pandemic is causing a rapid decline in the economy, rather than the pandemic is causing economic decline.

Therefore if we have no government response to the global pandemic there would be no economic decline, or if we have less government response we will have less economic decline.

Some wish it was that simple because it allows them to score political points.

Sweden! What about Sweden? It is true Sweden did not mandate a lock down. Swedish people still stayed home, economic activity declined and the economy still took a big hit. It was the pandemic that trashed Sweden’s economy not the government response.

There is no debating the world economy is in for a very rough time because of the Covid-19 pandemic. Attempting to lay the blame for the economic fall out on this government or that government will distract us from the huge challenge we need to face united. Remember the national cabinet at the start of this thing? That is how governments can work for the people that elected them, when they focus on us and not political point scoring for themselves. As has been said when this pandemic is over we will be feeling the economic repercussions for much longer.

Just to clear something up, I don't think it is all doom and gloom, but I do think that a lot of people are in for a tough time over the next few years, maybe even many more years.

Wait until next year, when people start to struggle. The opposition will be jumping all over what the current Government has done or not done and how their ideas, while not disclosing any of their ideas, would have been so much better.

Wait until Labour get into Government next (I'm not knocking Labour), even if it is in 10 years time. I reckon that I would be at unbackable odds if I was to bet that they will refer to the current Government policies dealing with this situation and that is why they can't keep one, or many, of their election promises.

[PhilT2]

Originally Posted by PG2

To be honest, if a vaccine was to come out any time soon I would be a little hesitant. I hate needles at the best of times, but I'll be thinking twice before allowing someone to jab me with something that has not stood the test of time.

The good news for those that hate jabs is that there are two alternatives under development; a nasal spray and an oral vaccine.
The bad news is these are in the early stages and are not the proven tech that the Oxford/Astrazeneca vaccine uses. This shot should start its approval process in Europe this week.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by PG2

To be honest, if a vaccine was to come out any time soon I would be a little hesitant. I hate needles at the best of times, but I'll be thinking twice before allowing someone to jab me with something that has not stood the test of time. Yep, I'm probably being a little selfish there but everyone else can be my guinea pig.

This can be said for all current vaccines that can have adverse effects on some people.
I'd take my chance with any vaccine in consultation with my treating physician.
By the way I also hate needles but must put up with them these days with my health issues.
Cheers

[mick taylor]

Covid 19 would of been a lot better to of just let it run and do it's thing, as such would of helped the economy boom, getting rid of all the dead wood that is on the Government handouts and all, many of the grubs who do not wash their hands ect would be gone as well.
but now we are going to be in a position that most Aussies will totally truly regret like no time in their lives in paying for this burden. that has really been unleashed on us all. such sounds stupid to say now but just you wait the effects to our economy will be way out of control for years to come, get ready for death duties to come back and 15% GST and your super will be smashed like you will not believe, not to mention they will have to tax that cash cow a lot more.
I think that the VIC Premier will have to leave Australia because I would not be surprised he will be hung in the street when the public come to understand the real damage of what he truly has done. he is a Labour Party man so such a one is totally ignorant of what the reality of business truly is all about in fact, such as they live in a fairy land off with the pixies. get ready for high taxes ! and high inflation.

[BENT_8]

This thread is like days of our lives without the prolonged stare as it cuts to a break.

[Work Horse]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

This thread is like days of our lives without the prolonged stare as it cuts to a break.

You can activate that function in settings!

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

This thread is like days of our lives without the prolonged stare as it cuts to a break.

That is something that only regular DOOL viewers would know about