Covid 19 -

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

The polls also said Hillary Clinton was going to be the next president of the USA and Brexit wasn't going to pass
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You forgot the bit about Bill Shorten being our PM Too......

Just goes to prove, There's only one poll that counts..

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by hayseed

You forgot the bit about Bill Shorten being our PM Too......

Just goes to prove, There's only one poll that counts..

Ask Sportsbet about that one

[Charliewool]

As an “outsider” looking in from the other side of our planet, and reading this thread on a daily basis I think...
What is becoming increasingly disturbing is the unbelievable division this virus is causing?
If you’re a “believer”, you’re labeled as someone incapable of making their own decisions and bowing to government control?
If you’re a “denier”, you’re labeled as an irresponsible wacko that doesn’t care about their grandma/grandpa?
I mean... Is THIS what Australia is becoming?
For nearly 4 years we’ve mocked and smirked at the US with the incredible divide Trump’s win has caused on their population....
FFS... The sheer utter hatred and contempt that republican supporters have for democrat supporters, and vice versa is unparalleled!
Is THIS where Australia’s future lies?
“A country divided, is a country defeated”
What happened to the great Aussie spirit of working together?
Sad, Sad bloody times Eh?

[Work Horse]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

As an “outsider” looking in from the other side of our planet, and reading this thread on a daily basis I think...
What is becoming increasingly disturbing is the unbelievable division this virus is causing?
If you’re a “believer”, you’re labeled as someone incapable of making their own decisions and bowing to government control?
If you’re a “denier”, you’re labeled as an irresponsible wacko that doesn’t care about their grandma/grandpa?
I mean... Is THIS what Australia is becoming?
For nearly 4 years we’ve mocked and smirked at the US with the incredible divide Trump’s win has caused on their population....
FFS... The sheer utter hatred and contempt that republican supporters have for democrat supporters, and vice versa is unparalleled!
Is THIS where Australia’s future lies?
“A country divided, is a country defeated”
What happened to the great Aussie spirit of working together?
Sad, Sad bloody times Eh?

Fear not Charliewool, most of us still understand the sensible decisions that benefit most Australians come from the centre of politics. There is a lot of noise from the fringe, if we pay it too much attention we are in danger of heading down the toxic path the US finds it's self.

I think we are better than that. And from my limited travels in the USA so are they.

Most people I know are sick of lock down and want it to end, but also understand why it is being done.

Pretty much everyone has an opinion on how they would do it different/better...

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

As an “outsider” looking in from the other side of our planet, and reading this thread on a daily basis I think...
What is becoming increasingly disturbing is the unbelievable division this virus is causing?
If you’re a “believer”, you’re labeled as someone incapable of making their own decisions and bowing to government control?
If you’re a “denier”, you’re labeled as an irresponsible wacko that doesn’t care about their grandma/grandpa?
I mean... Is THIS what Australia is becoming?
For nearly 4 years we’ve mocked and smirked at the US with the incredible divide Trump’s win has caused on their population....
FFS... The sheer utter hatred and contempt that republican supporters have for democrat supporters, and vice versa is unparalleled!
Is THIS where Australia’s future lies?
“A country divided, is a country defeated”
What happened to the great Aussie spirit of working together?
Sad, Sad bloody times Eh?

I think you're looking back at Australia through rose tinted nostalgia glasses from an era long gone by, that isn't the Australia that I've known or experienced.

Maybe it's just a wrong end of the tracks thing relating to the industry I work in and Melbourne but there's not many how you describe.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I think you're looking back at Australia through rose tinted nostalgia glasses from an era long gone by, that isn't the Australia that I've known or experienced.
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Basically since social media started here.

[Citroënbender]

Not so much social media as media immediacy. Seeing things in close to real time, goads for reactions.

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

FFS... The sheer utter hatred and contempt that republican supporters have for democrat supporters, and vice versa is unparalleled!

Ever had a night out on the turps with remainers vs leavers They are just as bad.

Originally Posted by Charliewool

Is THIS where Australia’s future lies?
“A country divided, is a country defeated”
What happened to the great Aussie spirit of working together?
Sad, Sad bloody times Eh?

Not sure when you left, but your observation is not far off. After returning from living and working overseas in 2013, I noticed some interesting changes. 3 things struck me the most. 1. We complain a hell of a lot more than we used to. 2. There is less trust. Not just of government but also of each other. This surprised me the most. 3. Our media reporting is very substandard. In that I mean its very politically biased. Gone are the days of just presenting the facts and/or events, and letting the reader / viewer / listener think and decide. We are polarised. I think 3 contributes a great deal to 1 and 2.

Work together? I've said it before, people follow their leaders. What ever happened to "we are all Victorians?". Dan maintains he has a good "working" relationship with the PM, but looks to me he is just giving journalists one less ammo to fire. National cabinet started well, but seems to be less effective as each week goes by.

When was the last time you heard two "leaders" with opposing views sit down and have a sensible public debate of anything important? Watched Question Time in parliament lately? Why do they even call it question time? Nothing gets answered, instead they just shout, attack and mock each other until time runs out. Same thing on social media. Monkeys see, monkeys do.