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My questions for CF to find it's way into engine components are, 1) speed of production has got to be much longer than casting, pressing or even moulding; 2) strength over the life of the car especially a component like the oil pan where the temps rise and fall consistently... But it's an interesting step by an otherwise recently conservative auto maker!
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That's interesting. How does CF go with the heat?
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I only know that in F1, they use as much CF in non critical components as possible (critically components are like most internals). But then again F1 engine rev higher (more so in the V8, V10 era's) and are under much higher strain. They don't however need to run for 300,000km+.
Kable, it would be interesting to see...
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koenisesigg (spelling?) in the early days ran a ford modular engine (modified of course) and was mostly carbon fibre components on said engine
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See many melted diamonds?
the carbon fibre itself melt point of about 3500°, so it's fine. The resin used to bind it, is what you need to concentrate on. The epoxies go to 300 odd degrees. But if they really wanted high temp and strength, look at carbon ceramic brakes. Carbon fibre in a ceramic binder (instead of the epoxy). I for one welcome our new carbon fibre overlords.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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So many good ideas for stuff , its good ford is experimenting on possible new technology .
if it was to end up on the production line what will be cost effect ? longevity ? |
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They use it in brakes in F1 because they're better at handling high heat. Carbon Ceramic is used in performance road cars because full CF doesn't stop too well when it is relatively cold.
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https://youtu.be/71wvtEZ-jcI Still look a lot like a mod motor though.
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The new Cumins engine, for use in Trucks etc. is a composite block. Big weight loss compared to the previous ISX.
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