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Old 03-01-2014, 10:30 PM   #31
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Time for you leave I think! Go join the other forum and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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Old 04-01-2014, 03:01 PM   #34
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Still to expensive for a car design that is 6 years old and lacking in everything bar acceleration.
This world amazes me. Regadless of how much value an item is, you just cant please everyone. Well here is what I think #*@( everyone!!!
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Old 04-01-2014, 03:11 PM   #35
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Why turn this into a Holden bashing thread? The FG is old now and it shows in every way, particularly in the chassis/handling dept. Yes it does miss out on many of the gizmos even an entry level Hyundai has but my point is I still believe they are over-priced, particularly against the non-FPV offerings which they are based on. I'm not saying they are not a good car, on the contrary.
I just personally think the FPV offerings are overpriced. The GT should be $54990 and the F6 $47990 given, apart from the engines are just tarted up Falcons.

And no, I haven't had any issues with the VF as yet. But I guess it's ironic all the problems associated with the FG since it's inception still exist 6 years later!
Ok, well lets look at F6 vs XR6T and to make things fair, lets look at XR6T with a luxury pack which on todays offers works out at $45,990. If an F6 is $54990, the brembos, power output including stronger internals, larger intercooler and I don't care what anyone says but an FPV with 19's rides better than an xr with the luxury pack 19"s. I know this doesn't make sense but if you drive these things as often as I do, it glares at you. Oh, you also get a free driveday, build certificate and a bit more street cred. If you don't think that's worth 9k, then you are proof that some people cant be helped
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Here is the question of the day, If you had 120k to launch on a car, would you buy a 2nd hand C63 with say 30,000km on the clock or would you buy a brand new GT and an F6. I reckon the latter for me!
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Here is the question of the day, If you had 120k to launch on a car, would you buy a 2nd hand C63 with say 30,000km on the clock or would you buy a brand new GT and an F6. I reckon the latter for me!
Id buy an F6, and spend the change on a MKII RS and spend the change on some mods.
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I wish these deals were around 12months ago.... i think i would have ended up with a f6 for 55k. I think that price alot more realistic and acceptable for the product.. i think i was gettin quoted 60-63k driveaway at the time and at that time i was lookin the GT pricing was in line with a SRT8, which the product i personally didnt deserve that price tag.. but now at 65k driveway... BARGIN! And under cuts a fully loaded srt8 but 10-12k which makes up for the lack of features and my belief is the correct pricing point.

If ford had there pricing right 12months ago i would have had an FPV in the garage, not my 300c luxury.
Sad thing is these prices were around 12 months ago

And 24 months ago

I paid 64 for my GT in 2011, and could have got an F6 for 55

There has always been a huge disconnect between RRP and what Falcons sell for.

The result is that some of the finest motorcars have remained unsold, whilst potential buyers select inferior vehicles that have an RRP that is realistic.
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Still to expensive for a car design that is 6 years old and lacking in everything bar acceleration.
If your looking for park assist, blind spot finder, tech gadgets etc etc,... Over handling and performance and heritage ....Maybe you shouldn't be driving a performance car...
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If your looking for park assist, blind spot finder, tech gadgets etc etc,... Over handling and performance and heritage ....Maybe you shouldn't be driving a performance car...
Why can't we have both? A performance car loaded with tech and gadgets? They don't have to be mutually exclusive.
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Sad thing is these prices were around 12 months ago

I paid 64 for my GT in 2011, and could have got an F6 for 55

There has always been a huge disconnect between RRP and what Falcons sell for.

The result is that some of the finest motorcars have remained unsold, whilst potential buyers select inferior vehicles that have an RRP that is realistic.
It's also a shame that if you are in the market for an Aussie V8, the GEN-F Clubsports are easily available for under $60K.
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Sad thing is these prices were around 12 months ago

I paid 64 for my GT in 2011, and could have got an F6 for 55

There has always been a huge disconnect between RRP and what Falcons sell for.

The result is that some of the finest motorcars have remained unsold, whilst potential buyers select inferior vehicles that have an RRP that is realistic.
It's also a shame that if you are in the market for an Aussie V8 and are not biased, the GEN-F Clubsports are easily available for under $60K.
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Old 04-01-2014, 08:19 PM   #43
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Why can't we have both? A performance car loaded with tech and gadgets? They don't have to be mutually exclusive.
Weight of useless tech you use once then never again costs you in braking, acceleration, handling, tyre life, traction and even fuel economy.
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Weight of useless tech you use once then never again costs you in braking, acceleration, handling, tyre life, traction and even fuel economy.
BMW and Mercedes-Benz have both proven that that can be overcome by increasing power and driveability and employing weight reduction measures in other areas such as using aluminium or carbon fibre panels.
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But that all costs money, what would you rather a fast car expensive with tech you don't use regularly or a cheaper and faster car with the tech you use regularly?
Cause I know what I want.
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dont get me wrong
the f6 is nice (the gt is prob outta my league price wise) and i did look thru them on carsales.com....

but, id rather spend one tenth the cost on the G6ET and it'd be as quick or quicker and still have all the luxury specs that he G6E has

i saw it includes demo models too so you might even be able to pick up an f6 for near on 50 grand?
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BMW and Mercedes-Benz have both proven that that can be overcome by increasing power and driveability and employing weight reduction measures in other areas such as using aluminium or carbon fibre panels.
But the newer V8 powered M5 is heavier than the older V10 powered version.
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But that all costs money, what would you rather a fast car expensive with tech you don't use regularly or a cheaper and faster car with the tech you use regularly?
Cause I know what I want.
Faster?

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(Motor Trend tested the AWD version, which is unfortunately not available in Australia, and did 0-60 mph in 3.4 sec and the quarter mile in 11.6 sec).

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400m 12.6 sec

As I said, tech and performance are not mutually exclusive.
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And that a 250k car
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In comparision tests,the VF GTS failed to equal or beat the AMG E63 times,so the R-Spec isn't doing too badly with those times considering the Merc is a 5.5L V8 twin turbo.
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Here is the question of the day, If you had 120k to launch on a car, would you buy a 2nd hand C63 with say 30,000km on the clock or would you buy a brand new GT and an F6. I reckon the latter for me!
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Sad thing is these prices were around 12 months ago

And 24 months ago

I paid 64 for my GT in 2011, and could have got an F6 for 55

There has always been a huge disconnect between RRP and what Falcons sell for.

The result is that some of the finest motorcars have remained unsold, whilst potential buyers select inferior vehicles that have an RRP that is realistic.
Yep true .... I paid similar for a demo ..... but the RRP has been dropped and there is now room for negotiations even further. I wouldnt be surprised if there are 59k drive away deals on low K demo;s ...... if dealers are willing to have some demos that is!



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Spot on there Rodge! Geesh, I paid 54k for my DEMO BF F6 way back in 2006 which was a bargain at the time.
No leather either plus the FG F6 is a miles better proposition than my old baby!
I know, I know... The FG is a 5 or 6 year old body shape, but at 54 drive away, awesome value.
AND there ain't EVER gunna be any more F6's made.... The last of the turbo FPV world beaters.
Same here mate, I paid $60K Kiwi for my beautiful Neo Blue BF2 Typhoon back in 2007 and it was a fantastic car at a brilliant price, never missed a beat, not one single quality control or warranty problem and went like a racehorse for 3 years. Worst motoring decision of my life was selling it. These current F6 deals are bloody brilliant, if people can't see the value in the car they're either blind or should get an urgent check up with their doctor to see if they still have a pulse.

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Yes you can and Kiwi's thinking of latching onto one of these deals should and avoid Ford N.Z's moronic pricing. Well respected shipping company Mainfrieght have a base in Aussie and can arrange everything.
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Here is the question of the day, If you had 120k to launch on a car, would you buy a 2nd hand C63 with say 30,000km on the clock or would you buy a brand new GT and an F6. I reckon the latter for me!
depends if u want to have 2 cars or 1 car and a shallow hot girlfreind in the passenger seat
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I said 120k. Ranger XLT and a turbo would leave you with 20k change. You could go a Wildtrak and an F6 with 120k. Now that sounds pretty damn good
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