registering a car purchased interstate

[ON_DUBS]

g'day all, I've been looking at going to Sydney to buy a fairly worked EL XR6.
problem is that because the car isn't registered to me in NSW,
it would have to go through Regency (vehicle inspection) in S.A in order for me to register it.

I gave them a ring and was told that no engine modifications are acceptable.
what a pain in the ****. I was told things like cam, injectors, aftermarket ECU etc are no way passable.

I'm sure people have got around these guys before.

Any advice?

If I transferred the registration to me in NSW then it wouldn't have to be inspected here by Regency, but without a NSW address then I wouldn't be able to do that right?

Surely there is a loophole in the system.

[PepeLePew]

Correct me if Im wrong but isnt the loophole, while not cheap, to visit an engineer in SA and take it from there?

I had a 240Z with a 350 in it a few years ago and I got a better response than that, but it had engineering certificates etc....

[Bill_R]

The only "loophole" I can think of is that each state has agreements to honour the inspections given by another. They do this for cases when you are travelling when rego is due. You'd need to be interstate. You should have an inspection cert with the car when you buy it.
If your car was going the other way around into NSW then it would be treated as a new registration and would require a blue slip. I'd assume this would be the same for you - treated as an unregistered vehicle in SA.

I'd be going through the "proper" process in SA and maybe removing the mods for the inspection. I doubt they would notice the cam. A stock ECU shouldn't be too hard to come by. Stock injectors are about $100. As suggested, an Eng cert is the way to go if you can afford it and means (if it passes) you will always be "legal".

[GXL078]

Don't you just need a NSW blue slip to register it here? You may need to know and or bribe someone.

[ON_DUBS]

When I was on the phone to the guy at regency I enquired about how they would
determine if the engine was modified.

He said it would have a noticable lumpy idle and high emissions.

I will find out about the interstate inspection certificate.

I remember reading somewhere there is a way to spoof an emissions test by clogging up something temporarily?

[ON_DUBS]

ok just got off the phone from the motor registry.

a certificate from NSW is not acceptable, they said the vehicle still has to have an I.D inspection at regency.

any more information on the blueslip i'm not sure what that is.

[Unco]

a blue slip is a thorough inspection of the car. it is the kind of thing you need to get if the car has been unregistered for more than 3 months (i think). once it's registered you just have to get a pink slip every 12 months. a pink slip is supposed to be a more relaxed safety inspection of the car.

in QLD we have roadworthy certificates, which are equivalent to blue slips in NSW. again, we only need to get a roadworthy if the car is unregistered or if it had plates from another state and you want to put QLD plates on it. here we also have to get a roadworthy certificate if we want to sell a vehicle with registration, otherwise it's sold unregistered and worth a lot less $$$.

basically, each state wants to see for themselves that the car is in a roadworthy condition before they let you put plates on it. they don't really care if you have a blue slip from NSW or whatever, you need to comply with your local state rules and regulations.

i'd say get the car towed over to your place, then if you have a mechanic that you regularly visit, ask him if he could go over the car and let you know what needs to be replaced in order to get plates in your state. if you know him well enough, he'll just give you a list of things to do on it and you can then replace the required parts at your leisure before taking it back for a proper inspection to make sure it passes first go.

[Unco]

oh, if the car is currently registered, you can just drive it to your place. i'm sure the local authorities won't mind/notice you driving around with NSW plates for a few days until you get your local plates sorted out, unless you're doing stupid stuff in it.

[ON_DUBS]

in S.A at least, you are allowed 3 months before the plates must be changed.

If I got everything engineered, how does it make it legal?
there are still emissions and noise laws.

has anyone had a cam or engine management engineered in S.A and can recommend someone?

[XR6WGN]

You have said that the car is "fairly worked" in what respect?? - If it was slammed with 20's etc I would imagine it would raise a few eyebrows but all you can do is present the car in a clean "stock looking" condition as possible and take it from there.

I brought my wagon in WA and moved back to Adelaide in 2000. To get the car registered here it did have to go to Regency Park. There was no Emissions testing, as for checking for a rough idle - wot a crock! The only testing they did was to put a light meter on my tinted windows and failed the front two - I peeled the tint off the windows and they passed it.

[ON_DUBS]

yeah the whole thing sounds like a crock to me mate, the guy on the phone sounded like a total ***.

he was very firm to tell me that strictly NO engine modifications will be accepted.

this is a description of the work from the advertisement:
Lowered 3.5in on Lovells springs and shocks.
Port and polished head.
Stage 2 Camtech Cam.
Bored and honed.
Cut back valves.
Linished crank.
King bearings.
ACN flattop pistons and rings.
Balanced crank shaft.
New timing chain and tensioners.
Cold air induction.
XF throttle body.
Chiptorque chip.
2800rpm stall converter.
Electronic shift kit.
Ceramic coated pacemaker extractors.
High flow cat.
2.5in Lukey exhaust system.
Front Brakes: PBR twin piston callipers,
330mm disks,
Braided brake lines.
DBA Gold rear disks,

[EFFalcon]

aslong as the exhaust is quiet, the car isnt too low and nothing stands out i don't think they'd even know.
they won't know about the chip/cam/head etc.
they'll ensure all the safety stuff is there, all polution gear is there and that its not too low/too loud.

[ON_DUBS]

getting to look stock isn't a problem,
i'd put stock springs and wheels on just to make it look more grandpa spec.

i haven't heard the car run but it is owned by a young dude so i expect that it would be loud, a different muffler can easily solve that issue though.

the engine bay looks stock and mint from the pictures i've seen.
nothing stands out above the ordinary apart from the 19" wheels and lowering which both will have to go.

so the remaining issue is passing an emissions test which the guy said they would do.

removing the chiptorque will probably screw with the cam and make matters worse,
it's only a stage 2 cam i wouldn't expect the engine to be lumping out of control.

do you think it would pass with a really soft tune on the chiptorque?

[Bill_R]

Originally Posted by Unco

a blue slip is a thorough inspection of the car. it is the kind of thing you need to get if the car has been unregistered for more than 3 months (i think). once it's registered you just have to get a pink slip every 12 months. a pink slip is supposed to be a more relaxed safety inspection of the car.

in QLD we have roadworthy certificates, which are equivalent to blue slips in NSW. .

In NSW you need a blue for a transfer of registration from another state. They treat it as an unregistered vehicle. I know of one guy here in NSW who had Qld rego and went to transfer it. The car was a 4wd imported from overseas. Even though it was registered in Qld he had to go back to scratch. He needed a weight certificate, blue slip and (I think) an Engineers certificate. He had to replace the seatbelts since they weren't the required standard (even though there were in good condition).

The Qld Roadworthy certifcate would be equivalent to the NSW *Pink* Slip. The difference is that the Blue slip has an identity check as well as checking that the vehicle complies with design and roadworthy requirements.

There is nothign more "relaxerd" about a Pink slip - it just doesnt' have the additional checks. Some inspection stations are authorised to issue Blue slips. If one isn't within a reasonable distance of "your" location then a Pink can replace a Blue (not sure if an additional identity check is done).

Some vehicles are picked out to undergo a special RTA identity check.

Regardless of what has been said here you *can* use an interstate slip provided you are travelling.

[FASTXR]

Originally Posted by FAIRMONT4.0

g'day all, I've been looking at going to Sydney to buy a fairly worked EL XR6.
problem is that because the car isn't registered to me in NSW,
it would have to go through Regency (vehicle inspection) in S.A in order for me to register it.

Just to clarify, in SA if you want/need to get a roadworthyness inspection done, can you take it to any certified inspection station or does it have to go to this Regency place (are they a garage chain or something?).

[Unco]

Originally Posted by Bill_R

In NSW you need a blue for a transfer of registration from another state.

in QLD you need a RWC for a transfer or registration from another state.

Originally Posted by Bill_R

They treat it as an unregistered vehicle.

so do we.

Originally Posted by Bill_R

Even though it was registered in Qld he had to go back to scratch. He needed a weight certificate, blue slip and (I think) an Engineers certificate. He had to replace the seatbelts since they weren't the required standard (even though there were in good condition).

he would have had to do the same if he had NSW rego and wanted to get QLD plates for it.

Originally Posted by Bill_R

The Qld Roadworthy certifcate would be equivalent to the NSW *Pink* Slip. The difference is that the Blue slip has an identity check as well as checking that the vehicle complies with design and roadworthy requirements.

umm... that's what's also done for a RWC. the identity check is done by Queensland Transport at the time you get your plates. not by the inspection station, so i don't think QLD's RWC is the equivalent to NSW's pink slip.

Originally Posted by Bill_R

There is nothign more "relaxerd" about a Pink slip - it just doesnt' have the additional checks.

i classify that to be more relaxed.

Originally Posted by Bill_R

Regardless of what has been said here you *can* use an interstate slip provided you are travelling.

he can drive the car all around Australia if he wants without any state related slips as long as the car is under his name. what i suggested is that he drives the car home, puts it back to standard condition (or as close as possible) and then go get his plates sorted out. not sure what you're trying to imply by "regardless of what has been said here". i think my suggestion was fair.

[sexr6tasy]

Mate dont worry about the emissions testing in south australia regency doesnt even have the equiptment to measure emissions far as im told as for s/a we dont actually have roadworthy certificates and that crap just rego if our cars are defected we have to take the car to regency the government controlled ******** squad whose job it is to make sure everything is legal and once you pass your back on the road no more certificates or roadworthys to be had ever unless you get defected by the cops again that is lol.

[Gilesie]

When I brought myAU it had ACT rego,
to put Vic reg on it I was required to have a current victorian RWC
Vic roads were not interested in the car other than checking numbers.
This was apparently because the car was already registered (even if it is a different state.

[prydey]

like i said on mfc mate, the only issue you will have is ride height and tint if it has any. all other mods you listed will not be noticed. it is only an i.d. check to make sure its not stolen. its not a full on over the pits inspection. you drive it in and they don't even want to hear it running. pop the bonnet, they check the vin and engine numbers, check their system to make sure its not listed as stolen or vehicle of interest and thats it.

i'd ring them again and find out the minimum ride height for that model car. they measue it from centre of hub to lip of guard. my eb had to be 335mm or something. mine also came from n.s.w. complete with roadworthy and they pretty much told me it was only good for wiping myself. they didn't care about it and i actually agree with them because it is easy to get a rwc. car doesn't even have to be legal.

[ZA-289]

Yeah as Prydey says, an ID check is pretty relaxed. They wont be able to tell if its got an aftermarket ECU anywayz! I you make it LOOK at stock as possible they wont even look over it. AS long is got std wheels, standard height, and nothing blaringly obvious they wont even look.

An ID check is just to make sure the car is not written of or stolen. And while your there the cops just have a quick look over it. I'd prolly take the headers of too.

Good luck

[Bill_R]

Originally Posted by Unco

that's what's also done for a RWC. the identity check is done by Queensland Transport at the time you get your plates. not by the inspection station, so i don't think QLD's RWC is the equivalent to NSW's pink slip.



i classify that to be more relaxed.



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From what I've seen the Qld RWC (actually a Saftey Certificate since 1999) is only a basic safety inspection (with provision for a VIN check) similar to the NSW Pink Slip wrt roadworthy requirements. The blue NSW slip goes much further. Now, I seriously doubt you would go to the extreme of a *full* identity + design standards + roadworthy check for a Qld Safety Cert. If you do then I stand corrected. The same is applied to a transfer from Qld to NSW as if this was a NSW car that was *never* registered. What happens for a Qld vehicle that was never registered or out of rego for more than 3 months or has never been registered?

not sure what you're trying to imply by "regardless of what has been said here". i think my suggestion was fair

I'm referring to acomment made here by the inital poster that he rang the SA authority and they said he couldn't use an interstate inspection cert. They'll tell you that but you *can*. I've used a Qld Safety Cert for rego in NSW when I was travelling in Qld. the vehicle was bought in Qld and had NSW plates and came with a Qld Safety Cert. The Qld Safety cert was sent to NSW to register the vehicle as a NSW registration while I was travelling in Qld.
Now, the roads authority will give different stories depending on whom you talk to but the basic fact is that there is an agreement in place to accomodate those who are in another state when their registration is due. They agree to accept docs from that other state.

I'd agree to return the car to standard. Except that in SA things seem much more relaxed.

[ZA-289]

Every state is SO different!

Fairmont4.0 needs SA related info.

[Bill_R]

Originally Posted by Mhgill

Every state is SO different!

Fairmont4.0 needs SA related info.

Totally! SA seems very leanient.
Indications from http://www.transport.sa.gov.au/regis...gistration.asp are that he would only need an identity inspection.

the roadworthy in S.A would only apply if the vehicle "was registered in another state, is more than seven years old and has an unladen mass of 4.5 tonnes or more". there are other conditions for a Roadworthy ( http://www.transport.sa.gov.au/regis...nspections.asp ) including if the vehicle is fitted with a non-standard engine, change of wheelbase, converted from LHD etc. Interpretation of "fitted with a non-standard engine" is open to debate but I assume they mean if an entirely different engine was fitted - not if an engine was modified.

If you hold interstate rego in the same name as the transferred rego you don't even need an identity check in SA.