Orion based Lincoln for Detroit! - Page 2

XR8putts · 14-12-2006, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tx3dude

there are people on other sites that have seen Orion that swear blind that the proportions and styling elements of this car are orion its not exactly it but its close

But this Lincoln is not revealed yet. Or have they seen that too.

Ghiadude · 14-12-2006, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by puts99

But this Lincoln is not revealed yet. Or have they seen that too.

the pic of the mKS has been around for a while

MethodX · 14-12-2006, 06:19 PM

Another Rumor

Mainstream Mustangs

Good Idea?
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...024/LATESTNEWS

**Polyal** · 14-12-2006, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by puts99

Looking forward to seeing this car.

It will be the first official/reliable glimse into what Orion will look like.

The stance, the wheelbase, the position of wheels.. these wont change for the concept car.. this car, if it is based on Orion will be very interesting to see.

Id be looking more to Europe than the US for design cues.

StookEB · 14-12-2006, 08:18 PM

The I6 had been with the falcon for years, and the DOHC has had alot of money spent on it, its a shame to not use it now.

falconlover · 14-12-2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Id be looking more to Europe than the US for design cues.

Yeah thats right i second that.

XR8putts · 14-12-2006, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tx3dude

the pic of the mKS has been around for a while

The mKS has no relation to the Orion.

The yet to be named concept, which will be unveild in early January is what I'm referring to as a yard stick to the Orion.

Not the images of the mKS concept on the first page.

XR Martin · 14-12-2006, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by puts99

The mKS has no relation to the Orion.

The yet to be named concept, which will be unveild in early January is what I'm referring to as a yard stick to the Orion.

Not the images of the mKS concept on the first page.

Which must mean the Lincoln unveiled in January will be bigger, and may give more of a hint of a possible LWB Fairlane/LTD (rebadged Lincoln, rather than a locally built stretched Falcon)
The MKS looks to be as big as a Falcon.

AWD Chaser · 14-12-2006, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by acosta32

This car might also be the next Fairlane/LTD chassis. Does anyone know anything else about this car?

Ford have had huge problems in making/moving/selling their LWB models here. I can only see them continuing the LWB models if they have arranged an export market for them - which it sounds like they have. Also sounds like Australia is starting to put the automotive industry on our map... as the world slowly gets a glipse at our pride and joy...

dave351cid · 14-12-2006, 09:58 PM

could the marketing headlines read

" FROM MUSTANG INSPIRED FALCON TO FALCON INSPIRED MUSTANG "

AWD Chaser · 15-12-2006, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

I wonder if this is the concept?

Looks like that car has a toyota camry front and a jaguar rear... nothing really screams falcon to me.... I can see those cars getting around with wool sheepskin car seat covers on them in no time... don't forget the knitted blanket on the backseat...

Gobes32 · 15-12-2006, 10:39 AM

I would imagine that ford australia will design the chassis based on orion tooling. Similar to what holden are doing with the VE. One chassis fits all. However the next falcon will definitley be european design. Its a well known fact that australians aren't too keen on modern american styling.

The Stylist · 15-12-2006, 11:53 AM

I see a bit of Lancia in the back of the MKS, however the rest of it looks a bit Japanese with mish-mash of design elements. The side DLO looks unresolved and awkward, while top and lower grills clash.

It would be interesting to see what engine is mentioned when this un-named concept is revealed at Detroit.

Poetic Justice · 15-12-2006, 12:46 PM

I don't think they'd use a car that didn't follow with Europe's current DNA

Transit Truck · 15-12-2006, 05:32 PM

I think the new LWB cars for Australia should be under Lincoln's name. Ford should just sell the SWB ones... That way sales for the LWB should go up. Same like how Toyota brands the more expensive cars as Lexus, it seems to work for them.

The Stylist · 16-12-2006, 12:15 PM

Well guy's after a bit digging it seems our friends within the media were making assumptions that the Lincoln concept would be Orion/E8 based. I've just read that the Lincoln concept will be based on the Mustang platform as will the RWD Ford Interceptor concept due at Detroit.

Where does this leave Ford Australia and future Falcon/Territory programs after the 2008 E8/Orion?

The Stylist · 16-12-2006, 12:31 PM

Ford Australia is saying no and Lincoln/Ford Interceptor concepts are based on the Mustang platform.

From autoblog.com

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The rumor mill began on Wednesday when both Autocar and AutoWeek claimed to have an inside source that confirmed that the Mustang brand would be broadened, likely using the underpinnings from Ford's Australian arm. Earlier today, Ford Australia denied such a connection.

McobraR · 16-12-2006, 02:13 PM

tThe concepts would be based off the mustang platform since Orion hasnt undergone testing yet, plus the mustang platform would be cheaper for a concept for Ford US. The production version however, would most likely be based off the Orion platform

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The Stylist · 16-12-2006, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by McobraR

tThe concepts would be based off the mustang platform since Orion hasnt undergone testing yet, plus the mustang platform would be cheaper for a concept for Ford US. The production version however, would most likely be based off the Orion platform

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Apparently not. The DC2 platform that the Mustang sits on is relatively new and very good from most reports. Forget comments about the live axle rear suspension as it's designed to incorperate a fully independent set up. Ford Australia have stated that they're not involved with any up coming RWD sedans in the US, so they won't be based on the 2008 E8/Orion Falcon come production time.

McobraR · 17-12-2006, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The Stylist

Apparently not. The DC2 platform that the Mustang sits on is relatively new and very good from most reports. Forget comments about the live axle rear suspension as it's designed to incorperate a fully independent set up. Ford Australia have stated that they're not involved with any up coming RWD sedans in the US, so they won't be based on the 2008 E8/Orion Falcon come production time.

Well that just sux! whats gonna happen if the Orion is a sales flop? buh bye falcon is what im guessing, unless of course, Ford US starts making money. I think Ford US should realise that aussies make better RWD platforms.

The Stylist · 17-12-2006, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by McobraR

Well that just sux! whats gonna happen if the Orion is a sales flop? buh bye falcon is what im guessing, unless of course, Ford US starts making money. I think Ford US should realise that aussies make better RWD platforms.

If I can recall correctly Ford Australia are looking to other markets like the Middle East and expanding their presence in the Asia Pacific region. I think China could be on the cards for Falcon's one day, wether they're actually built there or not is something for discussion.