Copenhagen summit dec '09, scam.

[cob115]

Originally Posted by vik351

This is a South Australian polly webb site where you can have a say...

http://www.corybernardi.com/

vik...Sign up folks...

thanks for the link Vik just signed up: )

[Cosmo Kramer]

Originally Posted by vik351

This is a South Australian polly webb site where you can have a say...

http://www.corybernardi.com/

vik...Sign up folks...

Barnaby Joyce has one up and running also.

http://www.barnabyjoyce.com.au/Newsr...-PETITION.aspx

Regards

[GK]

Originally Posted by Cosmo Kramer

Barnaby Joyce has one up and running also.

http://www.barnabyjoyce.com.au/Newsr...-PETITION.aspx

Regards

Added my name to that one also.

Thanks for the link.

GK

[vik351]

Originally Posted by Cosmo Kramer

Barnaby Joyce has one up and running also.

http://www.barnabyjoyce.com.au/Newsr...-PETITION.aspx

Regards

Good stuff...

vik...Just added my name too...

[Walt Kowalski]

Originally Posted by yanknbank

....you ring, email, write or walk into your local members electoral office (especially those members who hold marginal seats) and make sure that they understand that if you get a hint, or even a wiff of them considering being stupid or idiotic enough of puting up their hand and supporting the legislation, you will under no cicumstance support them at the next election.

Everybody should do this before it is too late

Put it this way

There will not just be NO Falconupdate in 2015 there may be no there may anything in 2015

Castellan is on the right track

And I signed the petition

I urge you all to do so.

[Rob]

This thread scares me. I don't know who to believe, because the information that is available to the public is biased towards the camp behind the publication.

That Zeitgeist movie is a tin-foil hat type thing, the greenies are fanatics/zealots, there are crazy religions springing up left and right, and governments more concerned with spin and image than proper leadership.

We're ******.

[mickyyyy]

Some interesting facts to support this

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1350746/posts

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1111115855185

[Romulus]

Done.

[mickyyyy]

Some more info

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbAe_g41Zl4&feature=fvw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfHW7...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEqF8...eature=related

[mickyyyy]

Some more again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDPq_...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svcuy...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7VUg...eature=related

[ltd]

Now that fat useless crap bag gore has backed off away from carbon dioxide being the cause of global warming, he's instead blaming methane and soot (like that from diesels). Surely his fat-*** is responsible for more methane than most. This will have been done to give pres hussein bambi an out for not signing the treaty that the senate is expecting to reject.
Oh BTW, perennial leftard Gore and his humungous *** is now calling for everyone to go vegetarian; as if we needed any more proof that he is a complete nutjob.
I'm just waiting for him to finally come out and say; "Half man, half bear, half pig. I'm therial".

Ex vice president = current noob

[XRQTR]

Originally Posted by ltd

Now that fat useless crap bag gore has backed off away from carbon dioxide being the cause of global warming, he's instead blaming methane and soot (like that from diesels).

Exactly, they are slowly moving down to the nitty gritty, the people that they see as making too much money, farmers and transport industry sector.

So how long before a farmer is slapped with a tax per head of stock, or even for the tree clearing that they might need to do in order to be able to compete with cheaper overseas pricing.

How long before those same products will cost so much to transport that we will have no alternative but to knock down shopping centres and set up communal farms so as to avoid transport costs, extreme I know but never say never.

Originally Posted by Work Horse

So many conspiracy theories in one thread

This stuff is gold fellas keep it coming.

Absolutely, just like everone that may have asked questions about a certain piggery being awarded overseas contracts during the reign of another Labor PM, and I'm sure their would be other instances during other pm reigns also.

Remember that none of the Keating involvement in the piggery was made public until after he left the top job and everyone asked why, too late then don't you think to be asking questions. Or perhaps you like to see the good in everyone princess in your fairytale castle, with your prince charming and white steed riding off into the sunset.

The X-Files coined it perfectly "The Truth Is Out There" it's just that most people expect it to be told to them just so their day goes quicker and they can sleep at night.

[ltd]

Meanwhile here in Aus, whilst the public seem to be waking up to this madness both sides of politics are mysteriously quiet. Could it be that both leaders have set up companies specifically to deal in carbon credits and futures trading?

[Work Horse]

So many conspiracy theories in one thread

This stuff is gold fellas keep it coming.

[mickyyyy]

Ive posted this topic on another forum and i carnt believe how many morrons are on that forum,

http://www.ausrotary.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=181730

[Falcon Coupe]

Originally Posted by mickyyyy

Ive posted this topic on another forum and i carnt believe how many morrons are on that forum,

http://www.ausrotary.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=181730

Proof that many live in denial or just don't care until it's too late.

[mickyyyy]

im going to use another angle to get them onboard and sign up as manufactuering job will be taken from Australia and sent overseas.

[XRQTR]

Just remind Dirty Wizard that his theory holds water and that the labor market will demand higher wages, let him know he is absolutely correct.

However what he and most of the monkeys on there seem to overlook is that industry can only increase wages so many times in a short period before they become no longer viable and start to bleed money.

First they will have the increased tax on their operation, then costs passed on to them by transport companies and outside contractors or outsourced labor/products. Add to that then the increases in wages that will, in their own words "have to happen", and then ask how long do they think that these Australian based companies would be able to afford to operate in such a cost ineffective manner. They will be bleeding money quicker than what they could recoup it seeing as many companies operate on 30/60/90 day accounts but staff will always want to be payed either 7 or 14 day intervals.

I wouldn't worry too much about trying to show people like that anything other than why their rotisseries are good for more than a BBQ.

Having read through the posts I can see what Seinfeld said about a certain few that do as they please, why they can't just say their piece and piece off is beyond me considering they don't have a point to make other than they need to feel superior to anyone that disagrees with them.

[Wally]

Originally Posted by Gas Guzzler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMe5dOgbu40

I'm not sure if Chris is a pompous twit or the real deal. He does make for good reading though e.g. http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/mo...oreerrors.html

I'm of the opinion the ETS is a way for the First World to control the emergence of China and India, by slowing their growth and effectively imposing a broadform tariiff on their goods; if they don't conform the consumer nations will carbon tax the imports. Nothing is going to stop China/India dominating worldwide manufacture, but the west can get the value add by slapping a carbon duty on top as it comes through customs.

It's a way of unravelling the mistake the US made with Clinton's free trade agreement.

[Romulus]

David Karoly can't make this mind up whether 1950 or 1970 should be the start point for his argument. "Absolutely no dispute"? Really? Has he checked out NASA's latest satellite data? Probably not, or he wouldn't make such rediculous claims.

[mickyyyy]

Ive added my name to both petitions

Guys also check out the link to the other forum i posted on, man some F%#KING ST^&ID D%$B C^NTS there.

[cob115]

Originally Posted by mickyyyy

Ive added my name to both petitions

Guys also check out the link to the other forum i posted on, man some F%#KING ST^&ID D%$B C^NTS there.

me to mickyyyy : )

[mickyyyy]

Should we start a petition on facebook???

[ltd]

Originally Posted by mickyyyy

Should we start a petition on facebook???

Put it on Twitter.
That's where to find all the TWIT politicians that seem to be ignoring the nation and sugarcoating this treasonous act of bastardry. (This is not politically aligned; both sides want it).

[BA GT-HO]

I have also signed both petitions.

I do enjoy reading Andrew Bolt's articles he tends to avoid getting caught up in the BS trap that is 'politicial correctness' and tells it like it is.

I sometimes shudder when I bring up politics or issues such as this with people. Some people just have no idea and don't even want to know. One person told me they voted for Krudd because he 'had nice hair.' Wow..

[Cosmo Kramer]

Originally Posted by BA GT-HO

I have also signed both petitions.

I do enjoy reading Andrew Bolt's articles he tends to avoid getting caught up in the BS trap that is 'politicial correctness' and tells it like it is.

I sometimes shudder when I bring up politics or issues such as this with people. Some people just have no idea and don't even want to know. One person told me they voted for Krudd because he 'had nice hair.' Wow..

Bolt also has a letter to the PM for everyone to sign.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/a...al_conspiracy/


Regards

[Work Horse]

Originally Posted by BA GT-HO

I do enjoy reading Andrew Bolt's articles he tends to avoid getting caught up in the BS trap that is 'politicial correctness' and tells it like it is.

..

What do think of Andrew's view of the governments proposed internet filter?

Originally Posted by ANDREW BOLT Q&A 26 March, 2009

... Well, I think a lot of people are getting very worried about something that hasn't actually been decided or rolled out. I think it's incredible and it's not as if there's only one right at stake, which is the right to masturbate over photos of children being raped. I mean, that's not the only right at stake here. There's another right, and that's the right to protect children, and I think it all comes down to how does it actually work in practice. And if it does, indeed, do what some of these people are getting hyper about, you know, slow internet speeds by 87 per cent or stop people from looking at legitimate political sites, I'm sure I would bet my bottom dollar that Steve (Conroy) won't approve it....

I think Andrew Bolt will say whatever will get him the most attention. Which is why he has the job he has, he's good at it.

[GK]

Here's my letter to the PM.

Dear Prime Minister,

I do not want you to sign this ridiculous treaty in Copenhagen and I think
your idea of the ETS will be horrendous to our economy. Our contribution to
CO2 emissions is almost non-existant in any case. Hamstringing our great
economy, the one your government inherited from the Coalition, would be a
dodgy move at best.

Your attack on Andrew Bolt and others who share his opinion is highly
undemocratic and I think un Australian. I think you owe them an apology.

Your assertions that everyone agrees that climate change is man made are
certainly not shared by the majority of scientists around the world.

Kind regards, may God grant you eyes to see the truth, and respect the
opinions of the growing number of Australians who are tired of being bashed
with the Climate Change scaremongering of the MSM.

GK

[ltd]

Originally Posted by Work Horse

What do think of Andrew's view of the governments proposed internet filter?


I think Andrew Bolt will say whatever will get him the most attention. Which is why he has the job he has, he's good at it.

Ad hominem; when the messenger gets attacked for conveying the message.

Who else in recent history attacks individuals because they are too dumb or cunning to be able to debate the policies that will affect everyone in this nation?

[Work Horse]

Originally Posted by ltd

Ad hominem; when the messenger gets attacked for conveying the message.

Who else in recent history attacks individuals because they are too dumb or cunning to be able to debate the policies that will affect everyone in this nation?

When "reporters" editorialise are we not right to question their motivations?

Andrew Bolt and Lord Christopher Monckton are journalists. Journalists report the news.

Journalists are more than welcome to form their own opinions, and to draw attention to themselves while doing it. I don't believe it is shooting the messenger to point it out.