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Ohio XB 31-01-2011 04:33 PM

Need quick US to Aussie lingo translation
 
I am writing a story with an Aussie character and I need to know how an Aussie would call someone a "genius bastard." The context is the character disliking something that someone has done, but also admires the accomplishment.

So what would be the correct lingo?


Thanks!
Steve


EFFalcon 31-01-2011 04:35 PM

smart ****?

onfire 31-01-2011 04:55 PM

" genius bastard " ? I can't recall a single time, I've heard an American use that term.

FTE217 31-01-2011 04:58 PM

smart bugga !

Ohio XB 31-01-2011 04:58 PM

We've got the same expression only without the "r" and "e". LOL. I am sure they mean the same.

Trying to clarify the context a little; what he is commenting on is having seen someone do something that really is amazing, but the amazing accomplishment is a cruel act. I hope that makes sense.

The "genius bastard" is not a standard Yank expression. If I were writing the line for an American character it would be a fitting comment though for what he has just witnessed.


Steve

Ohio XB 31-01-2011 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FTE217
smart bugga !


Hey, I think that is what I am looking for!!! I forgot about "bugga."



Steve

Road_Warrior 31-01-2011 05:01 PM

In the context you have mentioned, I would suggest smart **** is the most appropriate.

cheek 31-01-2011 05:03 PM

clever dick?

Spanrz 31-01-2011 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onfire
" genius bastard " ? I can't recall a single time, I've heard an American use that term.

:usa LoL, I with the above and I'm even married to a yank.

Maybe "Ya P.rick" or "You freak" as EFFalcon put it "Smart ****", but could make the character try to say it with a fake American Accent?

b055m4n 31-01-2011 05:18 PM

genius
 
I reckon he'd be a "smart c--t" :fewl:

pottery beige 31-01-2011 05:19 PM

smart kent??..

hendoau99 31-01-2011 05:19 PM

^ agreed LOL

cs123 31-01-2011 05:20 PM

"Arsey bastard" usually refers to someone who "got lucky"

pottery beige 31-01-2011 05:20 PM

Snap... beat me to it.....

Valid8 31-01-2011 05:27 PM

I would have thought, " smart pr1ck."

Swordsman88 31-01-2011 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FTE217
smart bugga !

tricky bugga is another take on that theme.

cunning devil i have heard used so not sure if that is really aussie specific and the devil isn't really meant to mean 'evil' i think its more a general reference.

Danny 31-01-2011 06:18 PM

Kissed on the dick ya bastard!!

An alternative to arsey bastard..

snappy 31-01-2011 07:40 PM

You can use what ever
smart f#$%^r
smart bugga
bright spark
the list is end less but what you need is the arn't yah

as in your a smart bugga arn't yah

bingoTE50 31-01-2011 07:49 PM

Cunning as a Sh!Thouse rat...

buggo 31-01-2011 08:06 PM

'smart ****', prob most applicable
'smart 'kent'' is a good one
'Sneaky bastard'
'What a spanner'
'dropkick'
'what the feck'
or be rodney and say 'how would ya be?!'

idk theres a few

ebxr8240 31-01-2011 09:21 PM

Just straight assey.. Ya assey barstard..

Trendseeker 31-01-2011 09:33 PM

Correct term is "sly bastard". Bastards are not unique to the US. We have plenty of them here too. Many serve in our state government, although those particular ones aren't very sly!

DJR-351 31-01-2011 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EFFalcon
smart ****?

This!!^^^^^^^^^^^^!!!..........forget "bugga"! it's just a dumbass cliché that is only said on TV for dopey US/Euro tourists.......:doh

4117kev 31-01-2011 09:48 PM

"Not quite as dumb as ya look are ya"

pulpist 31-01-2011 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingoTE50
Cunning as a Sh!Thouse rat...

Winnar! :D

Riksta 31-01-2011 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b055m4n
I reckon he'd be a "smart c--t" :fewl:

Only time ever its appropriate to even hint at using that word on this forum! :yelrotflm

pottery beige 31-01-2011 10:18 PM

Steve have a listen to Austen Tayshus... Australiana......

XCwillo 31-01-2011 10:25 PM

Slippery Gypsy!
Not Australian
But my favorite term haha

Halfmo Rocks 31-01-2011 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJR-351
forget "bugga"! it's just a dumbass cliché that is only said on TV for dopey US/Euro tourists.......:doh

+1. and that toyota bugger ad that got the word popular was actually from new zealand i believe.

Iggypoppin' 01-02-2011 12:40 AM

Do you mean "old Aussie" colloquial terms? What age is the character? The youth of Australia has a different vocabulary as far as slang is concerned compared to the older generations.

XR6TCraig 01-02-2011 12:59 AM

If the character's name is Alf Stewart, you could say something like "YA Flamin Drongo".

That ought to work

Halfmo Rocks 01-02-2011 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iggypoppin'
The youth of Australia has a different vocabulary as far as slang is concerned compared to the older generations.

yeah...an american one mostly, movies & music taking over the slang

prydey 01-02-2011 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohio XB
what he is commenting on is having seen someone do something that really is amazing,

do you mean amazing as in 'mind boggling', and being dumbfounded? or genuinely amazing?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohio XB
but the amazing accomplishment is a cruel act.

i don't think any of the terms given encapsulate this bit.

FgNewbie 01-02-2011 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pottery beige
Steve have a listen to Austen Tayshus... Australiana......

this is it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im6VEJKd1aA
but you have to know Aus to pick up on the bad jokes (still a classic)

FgNewbie 01-02-2011 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohio XB
but the amazing accomplishment is a cruel act.
Quote:

Originally Posted by prydey
i don't think any of the terms given encapsulate this bit.


I agree.

Bloody clever prick. Deadset you dickhead, you're lower than a roach.

You little ripper but fair suck of the sav! Fair dinkum, you're a bloody bastard.

I imagine I should replace you & you're with ya

Eleanor 01-02-2011 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pottery beige
Steve have a listen to Austen Tayshus... Australiana......

Haha. Classic.

So I said to me mate Al, "Hey where can Marsoo pee Al?"

She can go Out Back with the fellas. She's probably seen a **** or two!" :yelrotflm

Or

"C'mon let's go Anna."

"Nah. I'm hanging around til Gum leaves!"

pottery beige 01-02-2011 11:39 AM

so any of you clever dicks know the name of the swagman in waltzing matilda..??....

Mickxr8 01-02-2011 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pottery beige
so any of you clever dicks know the name of the swagman in waltzing matilda..??....

Jolly ?
:peepwall :lol

Geez Louise 01-02-2011 12:42 PM

Andy. Andy sat, Andy watched... :lol

castellan 01-02-2011 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingoTE50
Cunning as a Sh!Thouse rat...

A genius could be that but they don't have to be a genius to be that. it would depend on how you would put it.
I know a lot of cunning people but they are dim whits.

I think it's just that the person is an evil genius to be correct in Aussie English.

The writer will have to explain a bit more about the story line.

pottery beige 01-02-2011 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geez Louise
Andy. Andy sat, Andy watched... :lol

we have a winner.. :yelrotflm

castellan 01-02-2011 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohio XB
I am writing a story with an Aussie character and I need to know how an Aussie would call someone a "genius bastard." The context is the character disliking something that someone has done, but also admires the accomplishment.

So what would be the correct lingo?


Thanks!
Steve

The word genius now days is probably watered down like we hear the word brilliant used a lot now. what some call brilliant i call OK or good or fine. but i would call brilliant something like it's exactly spot on or i could say that is brilliant he is a genius, because it is really exceptional.

And the word bastard can be misinterpret by non Aussies.

Another thing i hate is the words (are you winning) when you are working. :doh it would be OK if i was betting some where but it's just really moronic simpleton dribble anywhere other.

pottery beige 01-02-2011 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by castellan
Another thing i hate is the words (are you winning) when you are working. :doh it would be OK if i was betting some where but it's just really moronic simpleton dribble anywhere other.

wow.. you must be a bag of fun to work with....

Iggypoppin' 01-02-2011 07:05 PM

"ya mad ya bastard!" might be the term you're looking for. From the film Wake in Fright, Australian outback film.

castellan 02-02-2011 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pottery beige
wow.. you must be a bag of fun to work with....

When was work about fun pottery.
I am extremely nice compered to the people i first started out working with.

I never heard of the term apart from southerners and younger people in the last 10 years.

Up hear in QLD you would say how ya going. or it going.

And i fail to see how working can be considered winning unless you are a con artist that just ripped off someone. and you are over joyed at the out come financially.

Other words that are used now days like
Sick !!!!!!!
wicked !!!!!
Are used in a stupid idiotic foolish way.
I think it's all got to do with people on drugs. :stop i am sick of it. why should we have to put up with nonsence.

Ohio XB 03-02-2011 07:55 PM

Austen Tayshus is pretty cool. We had a comedian here in the States who did a routine that someone made into a song. It used all kinds of celebrity names.

"Was Glenn Close or was Jamie Farr?"

Very similar material, funny stuff.


Well, the story is a screenplay I wrote that I am learning how to rewrite as a novel. I had to write this particular scene in novel form as an assignment. In the script the Aussie character's words are written in usual Yank English. It is up to the actor to execute the Aussie accent. Well, in a novel you have to write out the accent and spell words so that the accent gets read, even if it means misspelling words. Well, I realized while writing this scene as a novel that I needed something better than "...genius bastard." As mentioned, that is not a common Yank expression. I came up with it myself for the story. I figured there would be a better Aussie expression for it though, that's why I started this thread.

Anyway, I went with "sma't bugga." That's how I wrote the accent for "smart". I have not heard the "r" ennunciated too much by the Aussie characters/people I have seen. I am NOT SAYING that all Aussies say it this way, I am saying the Aussies I have seen in entertainment and interviews have said it that way. You know, like when you see an interview with a Yank who has seen a UFO they always have the southern accent. :doh

Thanks to everyone for your helpful suggestions! I was too rushed to be able to wait for everyone's responses. They gave me an education anyway.


Steve

P.S. The character is retired, so that tells you he is older.

MO 03-02-2011 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by castellan
When was work about fun pottery.
I am extremely nice compered to the people i first started out working with.

I never heard of the term apart from southerners and younger people in the last 10 years.

Up hear in QLD you would say how ya going. or it going.

And i fail to see how working can be considered winning unless you are a con artist that just ripped off someone. and you are over joyed at the out come financially.

Other words that are used now days like
Sick !!!!!!!
wicked !!!!!
Are used in a stupid idiotic foolish way.
I think it's all got to do with people on drugs. :stop i am sick of it. why should we have to put up with nonsence.

You weren't doing to bad till you mispelt 'nonsenSe'.
My old job was fun and we quite often had a win,it meant we had saved someones life.
Now back in your box the adults are talking.


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