Covid 19 -

[Tickford.]

Trying to put together a list of high profile sports starts that have tested positive to COVID.

So far I've got:

Usain Bolt (Athletics)
Novak Djokovic (Tennis)
Sergio Perez (Formula 1)
Valentino Rossi (Moto GP)
Cristiano Ronaldo (Soccer)
Adam Scott (Golf)

Anyone I've missed?

From the above list, I would consider Djokovic and Ronaldo to be in a more active sport, where physical fitness would be vital to their success.

There a quite a number of soccer, NBA and NFL players, and cyclists that have tested positive. Will be interesting to see how they fair once they 'recover' from COVID. Will they be back to pre COVID condition at the very least?

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Trying to put together a list of high profile sports starts that have tested positive to COVID.

So far I've got:

Usain Bolt (Athletics)
Novak Djokovic (Tennis)
Sergio Perez (Formula 1)
Valentino Rossi (Moto GP)
Cristiano Ronaldo (Soccer)
Adam Scott (Golf)

Anyone I've missed?

From the above list, I would consider Djokovic and Ronaldo to be in a more active sport, where physical fitness would be vital to their success.

There a quite a number of soccer, NBA and NFL players, and cyclists that have tested positive. Will be interesting to see how they fair once they 'recover' from COVID. Will they be back to pre COVID condition at the very least?

you can leave me off the list , i havent had it

[ford71V8]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Trying to put together a list of high profile sports starts that have tested positive to COVID.

So far I've got:

Usain Bolt (Athletics)
Novak Djokovic (Tennis)
Sergio Perez (Formula 1)
Valentino Rossi (Moto GP)
Cristiano Ronaldo (Soccer)
Adam Scott (Golf)

Anyone I've missed?

From the above list, I would consider Djokovic and Ronaldo to be in a more active sport, where physical fitness would be vital to their success.

There a quite a number of soccer, NBA and NFL players, and cyclists that have tested positive. Will be interesting to see how they fair once they 'recover' from COVID. Will they be back to pre COVID condition at the very least?

Stroll (F1)

[M&Ms]

Originally Posted by ford71V8

Stroll (F1)

Stroll never had Covid, he just wasn't feeling well.

Perez has recovered from Covid and almost scored a podium a few weeks ago.

[PHANTMXR6]

Originally Posted by M&Ms

Stroll never had Covid, he just wasn't feeling well.

Perez has recovered from Covid and almost scored a podium a few weeks ago.

Umm, yes he did. And his old man too.
Check the speedcafe articles about it.

[M&Ms]

Originally Posted by PHANTMXR6

Umm, yes he did. And his old man too.
Check the speedcafe articles about it.

My bad, last I heard (on race day) is it wasn't COVID, now they're saying it is...

[FTE217]

There have been plenty of Euro football players having been positive, they have a 10day self isolate period and back playing with no trouble at all......
The below is for the EPL......
The Premier League can today confirm that between Monday 12 October and Sunday 18 October, 1,575 players and club staff were tested for COVID-19.

Of these, there were eight new positive tests.

Players or club staff who have tested positive will self-isolate for a period of 10 days.
Round 1: 31 Aug-6 Sep - 1,605 tested, with three testing positive.
Round 2: 7-13 Sep - 2,131 tested, with four testing positive.
Round 3: 14-20 Sep - 1,574 tested, with three testing positive.
Round 4: 21-27 Sep - 1,595 tested, with 10 testing positive.
Round 5: 28 Sep-4 Oct - 1,587 tested, with nine testing positive.
Round 6: 5-11 Oct - 1,128 tested, with five testing positive.

Some have been top name players with no performance issues going back and the same will go with Ronaldo.
They all would be on a home training routine reporting to the Club.

[HIPO]

Yep Chinese man flu aint fun!

[FairmontGS]

Hey Trev! Crikey hey?

Victoria Police to investigate public servant after leak of coronavirus roadmap
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-2...-leak/12803210


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[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

Hey Trev! Crikey hey?

Victoria Police to investigate public servant after leak of coronavirus roadmap
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-2...-leak/12803210


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I have no issue with real investigative journalism, in fact I applaud it, but when it is just badgering, bull-**** or just outright lies then I have an issue

Skynews in renowned for lies, old mate on Media Watch on the ABC pulls them apart all the time

I wanna watch the news and get the news NOT opinion, particularly biased opinion, whether it be right or left. Just report the ****ing truth FFS!!!!

[buggerlugs]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

I have no issue with real investigative journalism, in fact I applaud it, but when it is just badgering, bull-**** or just outright lies then I have an issue

Skynews in renowned for lies, old mate on Media Watch on the ABC pulls them apart all the time

I wanna watch the news and get the news NOT opinion, particularly biased opinion, whether it be right or left. Just report the ****ing truth FFS!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBIx...=johnmayerVEVO

John Mayer

"When they own the information, they can bend it all they want "

[russellw]

Interestingly, three countries make up more than half (52.07%) of the global cases: - the USA (20.7%), India (18.59%) and Brazil (12.79%) although they only make up 44% of the global deaths with the USA pretty well aligned with the case percentage at 20.02%; India well below with 10.27% and Brazil somewhat over-represented at 13.69%.

We looked a couple of weeks back at the case numbers per 100k for a range of countries over the last 14 days and at that point Israel topped the charts.

That list is now led by Czechia with a mind-boggling 1,060 cases per 100k of population over the last 14 days but Belgium (935), the Netherlands (602), France (465) and Argentina (462.1) are all taking a hammering as well.

To put that in perspective, the global average is 64.7 cases per 100k of population in that same period. India, despite the high case numbers is actually slightly below that figure with 63.2 and even the USA is 'only' at 243.

Other countries with > 300 include Costa Rica (312.7); Spain (316.4); Slovakia (346); the UK (360.8); Switzerland (393.3); Luxembourg (406) and Slovenia (426). Of those 12 countries; 10 are in Europe, 1 in North America and 1 in South America.

[Mulva]

Russ, you sure about some of those figures? It's just my mate watches SkyNews, and he reckons they say Trump is doing an awesome job but Dan Andrews and Jacinda Adern are doing **** and need to go...but your figures don't support that narrative, so I don't know what to believe. /s

[Tickford.]

More first hand evidence that COVID has life long health implications post "recovery" in middle aged adults who were healthy pre COVID.

Dr Nathalie MacDermott (a NIHR Academic Clinical Lecturer in Paediatrics (Infectious Diseases)), contracted COVID in March. She now has symptoms of Long-COVID.

Dr MacDermott is suffering serious, ongoing symptoms after contracting COVID-19 back in March.

When her feet went numb while driving, she knew something was seriously wrong.

Then came the searing pain in her back, radiating down her arms and legs, when she walked up stairs.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2...rious/12785934

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

More first hand evidence that COVID has life long health implications post "recovery" in middle aged adults who were healthy pre COVID.

Dr Nathalie MacDermott (a NIHR Academic Clinical Lecturer in Paediatrics (Infectious Diseases)), contracted COVID in March. She now has symptoms of Long-COVID.



https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2...rious/12785934

This sort of story is going to pop up here and there from hysterical types from all sides of academia and all sides of the political coin.

There is not enough regularity of these reports when you consider that tens of millions have recovered. That’s a massive pool of recovered citizens with only a few Hundred cloudy non confirmed reports of ongoing issues.

Until I’m convinced otherwise, all these reports of catastrophic health issues magically materialising from nowhere after someone recovers from Covid I’ll put down to Karen types who’d blame a plumber for her internet not working after he fixed the washer on her garden tap.

[russellw]

Data valid as at 23:59 GMT October 22nd, 2020.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting except for the Victorian 14 day moving averages.

22 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR drops to 3.292% while active cases rise to 1,402. NSW recorded 7 cases, WA 8 and the ACT 1 each with the balance in Victoria. That ACT case is the first in more than 100 days.

The Victorian State 14 day moving average is down to 6.07 with metro falling to 5.5 (10 unknown) and regional down to 0.3 with no unknown cases (including today). Victoria reported 1 new case for the last 24 hours.

2 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.306% and active cases rise to 58.

The UK had a lower 21,238 new cases yesterday. We know they are now not counting their mortalities by the WHO guidelines so we are going to ignore the CMR but even using their method they recorded 189 deaths.

Just over 66k new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,224 deaths sees CMR drop to 2.648% and active cases down to 32.1% with the raw numbers rising and still over 2.7M. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
Global cases set a new daily high of 474,062 - 41k above the prior high;
Costa Rica passes 100k cases;
Europe set a new daily case high of 217,410 - almost 23k more than yesterday;
The USA completes 129M, India 98M, Italy 14M and Chile 4M tests;

Latvia (188)
Albania (302)
Lithuania (424) - 36% above the high yesterday
North Macedonia (647)
Luxembourg (662) - 54% above the previous high yesterday
Denmark (760)
Greece (882)
Azerbaijan (825)
Bosnia (999)
Kenya (1,068) with their previous high on July 6th
Croatia (1,563)
UAE (1,578)
Georgia (1,595)
Bulgaria (1,595)
Slovenia (1,663)
Hungary (2,032)
Armenia (2,306) - 24% above the high yesterday
Austria (2,435) - 24% above the high yesterday
Jordan (2,821)
Portugal (3,270) - 25% above the previous high
Morocco (4,151)
Romania (4,902)
Ukraine (7,053)
Netherlands (9,271)
Poland (12,107) - 20% above the high yesterday
Germany (12,519) - 20% above the high yesterday
Belgium (13,227) - 20% above the previous high
Italy (16,079)
Spain (20,986) - 4k more than the previous day; and
France (41,692) - 28% above the previous high
... all recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive days.

[Tickford.]

Would like to see a graph of the numbers for the last 14 days, for NSW vs VIC positive case numbers, that is separated into returning travellers vs community transmission.

Morrison and Frydenberg have been jumping up and down the last couple of weeks about VIC numbers matching NSW and as such, VIC should open businesses, retail, etc just like NSW has. I have a feeling VIC has had more community transmission than NSW has, which is the key factor.

[russellw]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Would like to see a graph of the numbers for the last 14 days, for NSW vs VIC positive case numbers, that is separated into returning travellers vs community transmission.

Morrison and Frydenberg have been jumping up and down the last couple of weeks about VIC numbers matching NSW and as such, VIC should open businesses, retail, etc just like NSW has. I have a feeling VIC has had more community transmission than NSW has, which is the key factor.

What I can tell you is this:

All of Victoria's 95 'known source' new cases in the last 14 days have been community transmission and while there are some unknown, there are none listed as returning travellers.

Conversely, NSW has 65 returned traveller cases from the 103 recorded in the last fortnight.

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by russellw

What I can tell you is this:

All of Victoria's 95 'known source' new cases in the last 14 days have been community transmission and while there are some unknown, there are none listed as returning travellers.

Conversely, NSW has 65 returned traveller cases from the 103 recorded in the last fortnight.

So 38 cases of community transmission in NSW vs 95 cases in VIC. Yep, VIC still has an issue, and should not be compared with NSW.

What are Morrison and his sidekick on about? The daily reported NSW & VIC numbers may have been similar in the last fortnight, but the source is the concern.

I went searching and came across this graph of locally acquired cases (community transmission) between NSW and VIC up until 19 October.



VIC is nowhere near the NSW numbers! The Fed government are truly playing games with people's heads! No wonder people are having mental health issues and/or up in arms about almost everything Andrews does.

[MITCHAY]

Well after ACT raised the bat for the ton of no cases we had one. It was a returning diplomat who drove from Sydney airport straight to home so **** all chance of it being a big issue. Doesn't stop some people from wetting the bed and making a big deal of it

It will be interesting to see if we get some cases after Bathurst and Raiders semi final though I don't think it will be likely if we have not already.

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

It will be interesting to see if we get some cases after Bathurst and Raiders semi final though I don't think it will be likely if we have not already.

What have the daily test numbers been in ACT for the last 7 days?

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

What have the daily test numbers been in ACT for the last 7 days?

Testing rates have fallen off a cliff but anywhere between 2 to 6 hunge a day.

We have sewerage testing here which has backed up no local transmission for a long time.

[MITCHAY]

So the National Cabinet has "in principle" agreement to have borders open by Xmas except for WA.

Meanwhile anti-lockdown protests going off in Mexico

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Meanwhile anti-lockdown protests going off in Mexico

Yep, 2 days out from another set of restrictions being eased in VIC, where things look like getting back to a bit more normality, and these selfish f**kwits are trying to f**k things up again. Almost all of them not wearing masks or have their masks pulled down.



Bet you when Andrews announces restrictions easing on Sunday, these f**kwits will pat themselves on the back thinking it was because of their protesting that restrictions were eased! Brain dead, moronic f**kwits!

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Yep, 2 days out from another set of restrictions being eased in VIC, where things look like getting back to a bit more normality, and these selfish f**kwits are trying to f**k things up again. Almost all of them not wearing masks or have their masks pulled down.

Bet you when Andrews announces restrictions easing on Sunday, these f**kwits will pat themselves on the back thinking it was because of their protesting that restrictions were eased! Brain dead, moronic f**kwits!

Lol this is what I don't understand. It would make more sense to do these protests at the start.

But at the same time I understand why Mexicans don't want to cop this **** too much longer.

Even people I work with who are reasonable people are ****ed off with it. And they are still getting paid to WFH...

[HIPO]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Yep, 2 days out from another set of restrictions being eased in VIC, where things look like getting back to a bit more normality, and these selfish f**kwits are trying to f**k things up again. Almost all of them not wearing masks or have their masks pulled down.

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Bet you when Andrews announces restrictions easing on Sunday, these f**kwits will pat themselves on the back thinking it was because of their protesting that restrictions were eased! Brain dead, moronic f**kwits!

Beats hiding behind a computer screen whinging!

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by HIPO

Beats hiding behind a computer screen whinging!

Me.. whinging about the Victorian government COVID restrictions?? Show me where I have done that?

Sure, it's been very difficult and frustrating at times, but I accepted the fact that it is what we all have to do so that we can get back to somewhat of a normality in VIC. But what has been more frustrating than the VIC restrictions is seeing brain dead, moronic f**kwits, like the above mob, put everything that others have worked hard for, just so they can get their 15 seconds of fame on social media and on the TV news.

It's ok Hippo, you "big man", you and your brain dead, moronic f**kwit mobs can continue with your "plight", you won't get a grain of sympathy to your "cause" from me. Quite the opposite effect actually.

What you and your "freedom" mobs have proven during this pandemic is that you are all a bunch of self-centred, self-entitled, self-conscious, self-indulgent brain dead, moronic f**kwits who are only concerned about one person. Yourself.

[tweeked]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Me.. whinging about the Victorian government COVID restrictions?? Show me where I have done that?

Sure, it's been very difficult and frustrating at times, but I accepted the fact that it is what we all have to do so that we can get back to somewhat of a normality in VIC. But what has been more frustrating than the VIC restrictions is seeing brain dead, moronic f**kwits, like the above mob, put everything that others have worked hard for, just so they can get their 15 seconds of fame on social media and on the TV news.

It's ok Hippo, you "big man", you and your brain dead, moronic f**kwit mobs can continue with your "plight", you won't get a grain of sympathy to your "cause" from me. Quite the opposite effect actually.

What you and your "freedom" mobs have proven during this pandemic is that you are all a bunch of self-centred, self-entitled, self-conscious, self-indulgent brain dead, moronic f**kwits who are only concerned about one person. Yourself.

What you are seeing is democracy at work. I agree with what you say about the protesters. But I also don't give any more or less credit to the Vic Government. They are either liars or inept, or a combination of both, so in my eyes no better that misguided protesters.

Meanwhile middle Victoria is sick to death of both, we just sit in our homes waiting for someone to get it right. Blanket closures resulting in the virus being contained is not an indicator of skilful government. Anyone can do that.

We are still nowhere near NSW's contact tracing techniques. They immediately publicise where and when carriers were. VIC, as usual, is too worried about marginalising groups, so they work on it behind the scenes.

What the protests do achieve though is to hold the Government to account, whether you or I like it or not, the Government can see that the protests have gone from 10's of people here and there, very disorganised into something much bigger. Their numbers will grow just like the virus's do. So far the "inquiry" has been too slow, and looks like a toothless tiger anyway. Sympathy for idiotic protests is the result.

[buggerlugs]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Me.. whinging about the Victorian government COVID restrictions?? Show me where I have done that?

Sure, it's been very difficult and frustrating at times, but I accepted the fact that it is what we all have to do so that we can get back to somewhat of a normality in VIC. But what has been more frustrating than the VIC restrictions is seeing brain dead, moronic f**kwits, like the above mob, put everything that others have worked hard for, just so they can get their 15 seconds of fame on social media and on the TV news.

It's ok Hippo, you "big man", you and your brain dead, moronic f**kwit mobs can continue with your "plight", you won't get a grain of sympathy to your "cause" from me. Quite the opposite effect actually.

What you and your "freedom" mobs have proven during this pandemic is that you are all a bunch of self-centred, self-entitled, self-conscious, self-indulgent brain dead, moronic f**kwits who are only concerned about one person. Yourself.

No, seriously, tell us how you really feel.............

[AlanD]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Me.. whinging about the Victorian government COVID restrictions?? Show me where I have done that?

Sure, it's been very difficult and frustrating at times, but I accepted the fact that it is what we all have to do so that we can get back to somewhat of a normality in VIC. But what has been more frustrating than the VIC restrictions is seeing brain dead, moronic f**kwits, like the above mob, put everything that others have worked hard for, just so they can get their 15 seconds of fame on social media and on the TV news.

It's ok Hippo, you "big man", you and your brain dead, moronic f**kwit mobs can continue with your "plight", you won't get a grain of sympathy to your "cause" from me. Quite the opposite effect actually.

What you and your "freedom" mobs have proven during this pandemic is that you are all a bunch of self-centred, self-entitled, self-conscious, self-indulgent brain dead, moronic f**kwits who are only concerned about one person. Yourself.

I'll endorse this ( but I would have preferred the absence of expletives).

The difficulty, as I see it, is that freedom of expression means that any sub-normal person (by which I mean anyone, who by their position clearly does not comprehend how this virus could decimate both our population and economy in that order) can have their say, even if that means that a totally unreasonable course of activity is encouraged.

I'll take this opportunity to commend the moderators and chairman for their forbearance in allowing a wide range of opinion to be seen - even if many of them are beyond the pale.

A couple of calculations:

At the moment about 8.5 million citizens/residents of the USA have been tested as positive of Covid 19. That is 1 in about 50 people who are living there. Since there are many more infected that are not detected the actual figure is lower than 1 in 50. Similar calculations can be done for many "western" countries in Europe with figures that are not quite so bad.

In Australia the same calculation provides a figure of 1 in 900 or thereabouts. In Victoria the figure is 1 in 320 or thereabouts. That means that, right now, any individual living in Victoria has something more than 6 times less chance of contracting the virus that would be the case if living in the USA

The USA has not seen anything like the restrictions that we have "endured".

Now the question I ask is " how many of the nay-sayers would have preferred to be living in the USA over the previous 7 months?(and if they would then:Why don't you move there?) Or do you prefer to live in Australia - and particularly in Victoria, where we are dealing with the potential for an outbreak that could see our state figure rise?"

My position is that the Victorian Government, in the face of opportunistic private enterprise companies accepting contracts that were clearly beyond their capabilities, have (almost) gotten us to a position where we ALL may be able to enjoy a greater degree of "normality" except for the problem of people who put their personal enjoyment in front of the welfare of the greater community.

I do not know how the current Victorian opposition might have reacted, but the attacks by Mr O'Brien, assisted by various members of the federal government do not give me any kind of feeling that they might have done better.

Cheers