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Old 18-12-2013, 02:02 PM   #1
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Hi all,

Just a heads up, I can't say much but allocation for some FPV's are in the pipeline, speak to your dealer if you are thinking about buying one of the last FPV's next year.

I will not be answering any questions on models, numbers, etc

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Old 18-12-2013, 02:10 PM   #2
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Are you saying that stock will be very limited? But would Ford not want to build as much as they can sell? Or they are limiting production to ‘create’ demand on purpose?
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Sticker specials here we come, time to move components!
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Sticker or not, they will be the last
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Old 18-12-2013, 02:25 PM   #5
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With the 335 motor going into the FH XR8 and the F6 motor into the FH XR6T the biggest issue I see is that there's really nothing all that special about the last FPV's with Ford "selling out" previously exclusive engines into regular Ford's on a much more competitivly priced basis. That and with Brembo's optional on future FH's where's the exclusitivity to the final FPV's kit...

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ah thats right, I forgot, we are on ford forum where negative comments are required in every thread.
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ah thats right, I forgot, we are on ford forum where negative comments are required in every thread.
Spot on!

It's pretty simple. If you don't want one, then don't buy one.
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ah thats right, I forgot, we are on ford forum where negative comments are required in every thread.
I have heard these special packs will be worth buying as they'll get a few extras that a run of the mill GT won't get.
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Spot on!

It's pretty simple. If you don't want one, then don't buy one.
Oh please. Where has anyone said they dont want one?

If your looking for an "investment GT" (thats a very loose term) then you are better off waiting 5-10 years when these ones will have bottomed out...the sell it in another 5-10 years time. So yeah if people want to enjoy then there is no better time then now.

BTW...FFS FoA/FPV or whoever isn't making decisions...we need an updated one of these FG2 style, with the R Spec chassis additions...give that I6 a proper send off!



Would be a laugh if they wound it up a little and kept it line ball with the GTS.
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ah thats right, I forgot, we are on ford forum where negative comments are required in every thread.
I don't see any negativity in Rodge or Polyal's posts.
Polyal is correct, Ford/FPV in the past have generally released "special edition" products as more sticker pack than anything else.

Rodge is also correct, that unless these so called special editions are really that with substantial changes then really the value is questionable considering the drive train will be available in updated model for a lesser price.

I truly hope that FPV/Ford do a decent run and release a legitimate final FPV and not just a sticker pack, but alas I fear history may repeat once again.
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That and with Brembo's optional on future FH's where's the exclusitivity to the final FPV's kit...

I don't recall this ever being actually stated by Ford. The XR8 will get the 335 engine but there has been no indication brembos will be an option ......Yet.
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With the 335 motor going into the FH XR8 and the F6 motor into the FH XR6T the biggest issue I see is that there's really nothing all that special about the last FPV's with Ford "selling out" previously exclusive engines into regular Ford's on a much more competitivly priced basis.
Unless someone wants a V8 ute.
I've been told by one Ford dealer we have until March to order the last of the FPVs, can anyone confirm this?
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I have heard these special packs will be worth buying as they'll get a few extras that a run of the mill GT won't get.
Emphasis on the letters "GT" which is something the FH won't have.
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With the 335 motor going into the FH XR8 and the F6 motor into the FH XR6T the biggest issue I see is that there's really nothing all that special about the last FPV's with Ford "selling out" previously exclusive engines into regular Ford's on a much more competitivly priced basis. That and with Brembo's optional on future FH's where's the exclusitivity to the final FPV's kit...
It's nothing they haven't already been doing for a while though
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I don't recall this ever being actually stated by Ford. The XR8 will get the 335 engine but there has been no indication brembos will be an option ......Yet.
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Join the dots mate..its a certainty, but whether you believe me or not its lrrelevant because as we all know you'd be better off buying the same brakes from another Brembo supplier at a fair price.

I'm just being realistic...unless there's something that's genuinly special about the last FPV people should be aware that there's a very strong liklyhood Ford will roll these engines and tech across to the new FH and in effect people will probably be paying a sizeable premium for the last FPV for little more than emotional / nostalgic reasons.

Ford need to release the last FPV with every bit of kit they have in the spare parts bin, (R Spec suspension, GT-P seats & 6/4 Brembo's), frankly to give enthusiasts anything less woiuld be a very sad way for FPV to end, especially in light of how much kit and tech is included in a HSV GTS.

I'm over the sales hype already...just calling it as I see it. My 2 cents.

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I dunno. Ford did a sticker pack for the last 400 XC coupes and were in big demand, IIRC selling for more than RRP in some cases.

Their running gear carried on for two models too and today, those stripey coupes are considered muscle car classics and fetch a pretty penny.
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And you only have to wait half of your expected life Enjoy now
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Unless I missed something, the last of the GT's will not be based of the FH? Is that right?
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I will not be answering any questions on models, numbers, etc
Have you had a run down on the details? Yes or no? I understand you wont be disclosing anything, I am just trying to ascertain whether Ford have actually committed to something yet with some firm decisions.
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Well I've put down a deposit for one of these "sticker packs". Put the deposit down months ago. Why? Cause I want to own a Falcon GT new. I dont care for its future value or lack thereof.

I'm not fussed if its just a sticker pack but in saying that, I do hope it does come out with all the fruit of the GT-P and suspension of the R Spec at a minimum. I've asked for it to be Blue and a manual.
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Last of the Interceptors.. FPV or XR8

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He is probably not in a position to know.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but these vehicles are hardly FPV cars. The cars have been built in-house at Ford since the closure of the FPV workshop.

The actual "last" FPV wouldn't be one of these sticker packs.
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Nope. Still FG based.
Well, I've definitely missed something. Will there even be an FH in that case? Or are we merely bracing ourselves for FG mk.III?
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There will be a FH. XR8 and XR6T.

There will be a FG2.5 that will be the last of the FPV's.
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Well, I've definitely missed something. Will there even be an FH in that case? Or are we merely bracing ourselves for FG mk.III?
FPV (which is now 100% Ford in-house) and the "GT" will be retired with the model change from the current FG next year.
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I was just giving forum members a heads up as you guys are the enthusiasts to get first dibs. I know numbers and some spec additions, but not all has been revealed, fair enough too.
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The issue is not the wind up of FPV. We are seeing the last GT made by FoA.
In my book, i couldnt care if the next XR8 had cannons and machine guns and connoly hide interior.....it wont be a GT.

For all we know FH will basically be FGIII. New bumpers and new seats and dash dials. All the more reason to go GT now or wait for mustang.
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For a lot of people that is no doubt important, however sometimes it is useful to look past the marketing badge, and evaluate the substance.

The next gen' XR8 will probably be a GT in all but the badge (or at least very close), at an XR8 / XR6T / SS price point.
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