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wodahs · 18-05-2021, 02:15 PM

and yet in this aspect of airlines she cant hold a candle to qantas ceo joyce and his want for borders open

T3rminator · 18-05-2021, 02:18 PM

Funny, I didn't hear the same backlash for the idiots asking restrictions and borders to lift during Victoria's outbreak. When it comes down to it, its the same .... different smell. "People need to die for the economy".

Agree on the vaccine front. No more announcements, no more promises, JFDI! If new variants come, deal with it, like we do with the annual flu shot.

Come to think of it, of the countries that have successfully rolled out vaccines, are any of those still experiencing mass ICUs and deaths? UK is going to be a really good test case I feel.

**cs123** · 18-05-2021, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by T3rminator

Funny, I didn't hear the same backlash for the idiots asking restrictions and borders to lift during Victoria's outbreak. When it comes down to it, its the same .... different smell. "People need to die for the economy".

Agree on the vaccine front. No more announcements, no more promises, JFDI! If new variants come, deal with it, like we do with the annual flu shot.

Come to think of it, of the countries that have successfully rolled out vaccines, are any of those still experiencing mass ICUs and deaths? UK is going to be a really good test case I feel.

Here is a stupid/trivial comparison.

We accept that driving cars will result in hundreds of deaths in Australia every year. We are ok with that. If we walked instead we could save hundreds of lives. Should we walk and take the train/bus? Of course we don't. We like cars and it is convenient.

If we have 80% of the population vaccinated, what is next? Keep the borders closed and say that any death is unacceptable? Is it 1, 10, 100 that is acceptable?

She didn't say it well, but what she said is true. CV is here to stay. Some people will get it if we open the borders up. At some stage we have to do that, we cannot go on forever like this. And I may be wrong but I am worried we as a country will be left behind very quickly as the rest of the world gets on with things.

And she may be selfish from a business perspective, but who isn't.

T3rminator · 18-05-2021, 03:16 PM

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She didn't say it well, but what she said is true. CV is here to stay. Some people will get it if we open the borders up. At some stage we have to do that, we cannot go on forever like this. And I may be wrong but I am worried we as a country will be left behind very quickly as the rest of the world gets on with things.

And she may be selfish from a business perspective, but who isn't.

I actually agree. What she said now actually has a bit more merit than what was said back 8 months ago. We actually have a way out now, there is light. But quite often it's not what you say it's how you say it.

I think once we hit a vaccination target we'll need to open up.

Citroënbender · 18-05-2021, 03:38 PM

Oh yes, can’t wait for meth-headed nuffies to start falling off their scooters in Bali, then wanting bazillions via crowdfunding for urgent treatment, once again. It’s been nicer whilst they’ve remained nearquits.

tweeked · 18-05-2021, 02:53 PM

You can't remove all risk, otherwise four wheel drives with lift kits and bullbars would need to be banned. All speed limits brought down to 40.....everywhere. No alcohol, at all. Peanuts, banned. All of these will save bystanders by the hundreds every year.

So we will save way more than opening the borders once the we vaccinate the vulnerable plus 80 odd percent of the rest of us will kill. Why don't we do that now? Because who wants to live in a world without the things that make it interesting, and also that gives us jobs.

Yes, she said it in a way that everyone was going to jump on her. I for one don't think that was accidental, she wanted the headline to start the conversation. She just stated the obvious.

**FairmontGS** · 18-05-2021, 05:44 PM

NSW 9 million vaccines away from considering open borders: GSS Premier

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Premier Gladys Berejiklian says NSW will need to administer another 9 million COVID-19 vaccine doses to consider reopening international borders, as the state’s mass vaccination centre starts inoculating people in their 40s.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/...17-p57sku.html

**cs123** · 18-05-2021, 06:05 PM

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NSW 9 million vaccines away from considering open borders: GSS Premier

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/...17-p57sku.html

What's the population of NSW?

Work Horse · 18-05-2021, 06:12 PM

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What's the population of NSW?

A bit over 8 million, and everyone needs two jabs to be vaccinated.

**cs123** · 18-05-2021, 07:04 PM

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A bit over 8 million, and everyone needs two jabs to be vaccinated.

So they are saying the need 5m out of 6m adults vaccinated which is above 80%. Not sure if that will happen

**FairmontGS** · 19-05-2021, 08:14 AM

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So they are saying the need 5m out of 6m adults vaccinated which is above 80%. Not sure if that will happen

Yes, it's a big ask but Aunty Glad's giving it a red-hot go.

Vaccination hub on track for more than 30,000 doses a week, NSW scouting second location

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NSW Health is looking to open a second mass vaccination clinic after its Sydney Olympic Park location administered a record number of vaccines on Monday.

The NSW Health Vaccination Centre is on track to deliver well over its promised 30,000 vaccinations a week when it begins to offer both Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines later this month, with doses already exceeding 5000 a day despite the facility not operating at full capacity.

Health Minister Brad Hazzard said investigations were being made regarding a possible second mass clinic “in or near” Newcastle.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/...18-p57svi.html

I'm off to do my bit this afternoon.

**FairmontGS** · 18-05-2021, 06:13 PM

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What's the population of NSW?

About 8.5m I think.

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https://www.bing.com/search?q=what+i...ANNTA1&PC=DCTS

HIPO · 18-05-2021, 07:35 PM

Bugger that Ivermectin for me!

**FairmontGS** · 18-05-2021, 08:29 PM

Qantas: we were right to block passengers

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/subscribe/news/1/

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**GasoLane** · 18-05-2021, 09:01 PM

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Qantas: we were right to block passengers

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/subscribe/news/1/

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**FairmontGS** · 18-05-2021, 09:09 PM

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Subscription only

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pottery beige · 18-05-2021, 09:11 PM

peasants !!

**russellw** · 19-05-2021, 12:03 PM

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT May 18th, 2021.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting.

5 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR is 3.035%.

2 cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 0.980% and active cases 19.

The UK had a higher 2,412 cases yesterday and 7 deaths. They have had another adjustment of -2,853 cases spread across several weeks.

Just over 25k new cases in the USA yesterday and 432 deaths sees CMR at 1.780%. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
South America passes 27M cases;

Bahrain (1,968); and
Argentina (35,443)

... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

No countries move above the 90th percentile for their 10 day average while Sweden, Canada and Namibia drop below.

**russellw** · 19-05-2021, 01:47 PM

I was looking at the graph I put up the other day for the cases by continent which was very 'spiky' thanks to the drops in weekend data so I've put the data in a pivot table and it can be shown weekly.

Here are all the continents (except Oceania) together since May 2020.

.. and the same data viewed as a fourth order polynomial trend:

T3rminator · 19-05-2021, 02:03 PM

Nurse administers one Covid vaccine in eight hours at Victorian hub as NSW ramps up rollout

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...mps-up-rollout

More needs to be done from all sides to get people in. Will be interesting to check the state vs state numbers again in a months time.

Bossxr8 · 19-05-2021, 02:26 PM

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Here it is, but no sample size or population mentioned. I also read somewhere that Australia, only 2nd to the US, is most likely to believe in conspiracies.

Although I think in this case its complacency being the main driver.

Almost one-third of adult Australians say they’re unlikely to get COVID vaccination: survey

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/f...18-p57szo.html

I love how these clowns push the conspiracy angle, like everyone who doesn't want to get it believes it's a conspiracy to put chips inside us. It's the biggest load of garbage. No one believes that except a few dullards that probably also believe the earth is flat.

What people do think, is one of 3 things. That these vaccines are long term unproven, can cause side effects resulting in blood clots and death (in small numbers), and also the complacency part is definitely a big factor also. Being lucky enough to pretty much have eliminated covid in the community, and with borders closed, means it's basically no risk. This might change when the borders are opened up and covid eventually returns.

People aren't refusing it because they believe they are getting computer chips injected into them. Mickey Molloy was pushing that crap on triple m yesterday

I don't know who's dumber, him, or me for listening to that moron.

T3rminator · 19-05-2021, 02:56 PM

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I love how these clowns push the conspiracy angle, like everyone who doesn't want to get it believes it's a conspiracy to put chips inside us. It's the biggest load of garbage. No one believes that except a few dullards that probably also believe the earth is flat.

What people do think, is one of 3 things. That these vaccines are long term unproven, can cause side effects resulting in blood clots and death (in small numbers), and also the complacency part is definitely a big factor also. Being lucky enough to pretty much have eliminated covid in the community, and with borders closed, means it's basically no risk. This might change when the borders are opened up and covid eventually returns.

People aren't refusing it because they believe they are getting computer chips injected into them. Mickey Molloy was pushing that crap on triple m yesterday

I don't know who's dumber, him, or me for listening to that moron.

LOL I don't listen to MMM but surely the code of conduct would have prevented something like that going to air? Although Mick is a bit of a joker, hard to know when he is being serious or not.

Authorities have a lot of work to do to mitigate the causes of vaccine hesitancy, regardless of what category they fall in, the end result is still the same.

Whilst the 5G / tracking stuff is WAY out there, there are some other theories that blur into the long term health concerns line. Note there are people out there that still think this whole covid thing is a big lie or hoax.

zilo · 20-05-2021, 01:19 AM

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What people do think, is one of 3 things. That these vaccines are long term unproven, can cause side effects resulting in blood clots and death (in small numbers), and also the complacency part is definitely a big factor also. .

Theres a group you may not have thought of.

People who are happy to wait till there is a better vaccine option than the AZ.....

I wouldnt underestimate the size of that group.

Trevor 57 · 19-05-2021, 02:23 PM

A lot of people are getting them done at their bulk billing GP, so why book in and que up at a centre

ford71V8 · 19-05-2021, 03:50 PM

Vaccine incentives

https://twitter.com/CharlieEmmaUK/st...16524307693570

Yellow_Festiva · 20-05-2021, 10:43 AM

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Vaccine incentives

https://twitter.com/CharlieEmmaUK/st...16524307693570

To be honest, not a bad idea.

Perhaps the 4 x $25 vouchers should have been that incentive??

**cs123** · 20-05-2021, 11:13 AM

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To be honest, not a bad idea.

Perhaps the 4 x $25 vouchers should have been that incentive??

Ohio are doing a $1M lottery. 5 people will be drawn and each win $1M.People who can provide proof of vaccination can go into the draw.

It resulted in turning a 24% drop in vaccination rates to a 6% increase.

Yellow_Festiva · 20-05-2021, 11:26 AM

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Ohio are doing a $1M lottery. 5 people will be drawn and each win $1M.People who can provide proof of vaccination can go into the draw.

It resulted in turning a 24% drop in vaccination rates to a 6% increase.

The prize would probably be less than treating those that get sick from lack of vaccination.

Another state in the US is providing college scholarships I hear.

pottery beige · 20-05-2021, 07:51 PM

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Ohio are doing a $1M lottery. 5 people will be drawn and each win $1M.People who can provide proof of vaccination can go into the draw.

It resulted in turning a 24% drop in vaccination rates to a 6% increase.

Ohio is a **** hole full of people that cant afford x lotto tickets ??

Trevor 57 · 20-05-2021, 06:58 AM

Yep, I agree Zilo, that would be a high percentage