Dads are our deadliest drivers

[Express]

Over-confident dads cause most Aussie road fatalities



Yahoo7 News
9 April, 2017



Dads are now our deadliest drivers, causing more road fatalities in the past two years than younger drivers, a new study shows.


See link below for video: Dad's have been deemed our deadliest drivers


While drivers aged 17 to 25 have traditionally taken the most risks behind the wheel due to inexperience, it's over-confident older men who are being labelled the country's worst drivers.

A new NSW Centre for Road Safety (CRS) study of 1500 male drivers showed men in the 30 to 49 age group were the highest offenders of over-estimating their skill, driving while drunk and not wearing seatbelts.



Over-confident men aged 30 to 49 are being labelled the country's worst drivers. Picture: 7 News


The group commonly took a relaxed attitude on the roads, expecting their skill and experience will get them out of trouble.

But it's a different story when their children are in the car, with dads taking more precautions when driving others around.

The research showed a trend in older males who were becoming more reckless behind the wheel, in contrast to a rigorous licensing system pulling younger drivers in line, CRS executive director Bernard Carlon told News Corp.



Dads tend to take more precautions when children are in the car. Picture: Centre for Road Safety


“[Men aged 30-49] clearly say that they are such good drivers that no matter what the circumstances are, they would be able to avoid a crash.

“The reality of the numbers is that’s not happening and that, in fact, the number of fatalities are going up.”

He noticed the shift in the age of road fatalities about five years ago while researching driver deaths in commercial vehicles and light trucks, then widened his research to male drivers of all vehicles in the age group.

The findings showed the group was more likely to cause fatal collisions involving drink-driving, failing to wear seat belts and *fatigue than any other.



The study showed older group commonly took a relaxed attitude on the roads, expecting their skill and experience will get them out of trouble. Picture: Centre for Road Safety


Failing to wear a seatbelt was a cause of 26 per cent of road deaths among the 30-49 age group in 2015 and 2016, compared to 17 per cent of fatalities in younger motorists.

“[The older age group] are taking more risks than other drivers,” Mr Carlon said.

“They definitely think that their skill and ability is going to mitigate against those risks.

“The tragic outcome from this is it’s actually someone else’s family. We need to protect everybody in the road environment. If you are driving on your own, even then we don’t want to lose your life.”



Emergency crews at the scene of the a fatal crash. Photo: 7News


The study also found 91 per cent of the 80 male drivers in the 30 to 49 year old group who were killed in NSW road incidents in the past two years were sole occupants of their vehicles.

In contrast, 67 per cent of deaths in the 17 to 25 age group were drivers who were alone in their cars.

NSW Roads Minister Melinda Pavey urged parents to set a better example for their children.

“Every time you get behind the wheel you should imagine you are carrying all the most precious people in your life,” she said.


See link below for video: Australia's worst drivers



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[LG17]

It's just a pity they used flawed data to achieve that result.
I guess it makes headlines though.

[GO FURTHER]

The question that needs to be asked....

There has always been male drivers in the 30 to 49 age group on our roads.

So why now, in only the last 2 years have this demographic group now caused more road fatalities than younger drivers?

[Trump]

Originally Posted by BAXRSIX

The question that needs to be asked....

There has always been male drivers in the 30 to 49 age group on our roads.

So why now, in only the last 2 years have this demographic group now caused more road fatalities than younger drivers?

They haven't. The data has been skewed to make it appear that way.

[Mechan1k]

Originally Posted by BAXRSIX

The question that needs to be asked....

There has always been male drivers in the 30 to 49 age group on our roads.

So why now, in only the last 2 years have this demographic group now caused more road fatalities than younger drivers?

No .. probably less young ones getting their licence ... due to other more important things like facetwit. They get their Dad's to drive them around

[.:4:.]

Mind you I'm at the low end of that pigeon hole (30 and my son is 8 in august) and I find I don't take uncalclated risks at all and am somewhat careful on the roads. I just want to make it home in 1 piece. Don't get me wrong, I will find out what a car can and can't do in the local industrial park when I get them so I know what they can or can't do. There are enough over enthusiastic drivers to warrent not being one. When I'm at work (off at the moment) I do over 100 kays a day usually and I see some interesting antics. I don't get paid to drive, it's not in my job description, however I have to drive to get paid.

[Itsme]

Who cares, another beat up story!

[vztrt]

Two weeks ago it was millennials now this. In two week itll be female lib voters aged between 47 and 49.5.

[Pedro]

Another one of those "We're going to show you the stats/pics they didn't want you to see" from the increasingly BS media. Another reason why I don't watch TV news anymore.

[Junkyard-Dog]

I would have thought the fake news would be too busy with Trump's missile attack on Syria to bother writing this mess.

[LG17]

Originally Posted by LG17

It's just a pity they used flawed data to achieve that result.
I guess it makes headlines though.

I forgot to add that I'm nowhere near that demographic either so there's no bias with my comment.

[Sabantien]

I'm pretty sure it's just anyone with a baby on board sticker.

[malazn mafia]

Much ado about nothing. Anyone remember the news article of some poor old sod who got done for 160 in the Wimmera driving his Magna? He probably done that for years down the back roads with no issue until mr plod decided to be a hero and start enforcing the back roads.

[Ashdaw]

Isn't it wonderful that again, men are the problem? I can see that whoever thought of making this story as sensational as they could, have never been outside a school in the mornings or afternoon when the female of the species is out in their people carriers, with baby on board stickers and those silly family stickers picking up kids?

[Maka]

9news dropped the overconfident out of its story title & now its "Dads overtake 17 to 25 y/o's as NSW's most deadly drivers"..

The lengths journo's will go for a Walkely Award or they are going into bat for Uber et al' lol!!!

cheers, Maka

[marty351]

Ban Men!!!!!!!!!

That ought to do it.


Ffffzzzzghghghhaaa

[Falcon Coupe]

They have to make something up given known stereotypes are not politically correct to write about.
I have been watching Highway Patrol Australia on YouTube. More truth in that than a random fabrication by media.

[jpblue1000]

Gee you guys are sensitive. Home truths struck a chord much?
Where in that article does it give ground to doubt the statistics! Ignorant parents parked badly outside the school are not dying in their dozens.
I find it amazing the statistic on belt use and drink driving in this day and age. Economic pressures surely contributing to the phenomena.
If your not part of the problem dont worry. Dont feel emasculated. Its not a war on qwidgebo yet.

JP

[Trump]

Originally Posted by jpblue1000

Gee you guys are sensitive. Home truths struck a chord much?
Where in that article does it give ground to doubt the statistics! Ignorant parents parked badly outside the school are not dying in their dozens.
I find it amazing the statistic on belt use and drink driving in this day and age. Economic pressures surely contributing to the phenomena.
If your not part of the problem dont worry. Dont feel emasculated. Its not a war on qwidgebo yet.

JP

The "data" generated by the CRS is worth less than the belly button fluff found in most of the belly buttons of their sample. Agenda driven "studies" being touted as science are to be taken with a grain of salt.

There are two reasons why this was published, someone wants more grant money and govco needs a new target for revenue.

[EDManual]

Remember something that they dont say, in Victoria around 50% of single vehicle fatalities are suicides. so quote "
The study also found 91 per cent of the 80 male drivers in the 30 to 49 year old group who were killed in NSW road incidents in the past two years were sole occupants of their vehicles." 50% of them will also be suicides.
See how they say they say a certian % are not wearing seat belts and die? er.. are the writers of the article stupid? Defenite suicides there.

I really do not see why suicides are included in the road toll. they really shouldnt be.

[.:4:.]

Originally Posted by EDManual

Remember something that they dont say, in Victoria around 50% of single vehicle fatalities are suicides. so quote "
The study also found 91 per cent of the 80 male drivers in the 30 to 49 year old group who were killed in NSW road incidents in the past two years were sole occupants of their vehicles." 50% of them will also be suicides.
See how they say they say a certian % are not wearing seat belts and die? er.. are the writers of the article stupid? Defenite suicides there.

I really do not see why suicides are included in the road toll. they really shouldnt be.

Agreed.

[Pedro]

Originally Posted by EDManual

Remember something that they dont say, in Victoria around 50% of single vehicle fatalities are suicides. so quote "
The study also found 91 per cent of the 80 male drivers in the 30 to 49 year old group who were killed in NSW road incidents in the past two years were sole occupants of their vehicles." 50% of them will also be suicides.
See how they say they say a certian % are not wearing seat belts and die? er.. are the writers of the article stupid? Defenite suicides there.

I really do not see why suicides are included in the road toll. they really shouldnt be.

Reason is simple. Govco can claim the suiciding driver was "SPEEDING", so reinforcing their argument to the empty heads that even 1km over the speed limit promotes wholesale road slaughter so we have to keep you safe with "speed cameras".

[EDManual]

Always annoys me this "failing to wear seatbelt" thing! Ok, so there may be the odd drunk that doesnt put on his belt and stacks... but seriously have you ever seen a normal a to b driver with no seatbelt on? I have been driving for 25 years all over the place and have NEVER noticed even one. So sure there may be a farmer that may not wear one here and there, but the rest are suicides surely, I mean, drive into a tree or whatever at 100kmh and take off your seatbelt. Thats what most are.

[.:4:.]

Originally Posted by EDManual

Always annoys me this "failing to wear seatbelt" thing! Ok, so there may be the odd drunk that doesnt put on his belt and stacks... but seriously have you ever seen a normal a to b driver with no seatbelt on? I have been driving for 25 years all over the place and have NEVER noticed even one. So sure there may be a farmer that may not wear one here and there, but the rest are suicides surely, I mean, drive into a tree or whatever at 100kmh and take off your seatbelt. Thats what most are.

The guy I did my apprenticeship under was a bandit for no seat belt. Both that and undies, just wouldn't do either. He had/has no death wish but his parents never inforced it so he just didn't.

[jpblue1000]

Originally Posted by Trump

The "data" generated by the CRS is worth less than the belly button fluff found in most of the belly buttons of their sample. Agenda driven "studies" being touted as science are to be taken with a grain of salt.

There are two reasons why this was published, someone wants more grant money and govco needs a new target for revenue.

But where in the article does it reference what the data was, how it was collected and used?
A bias against a organisation that holds a different opinion to you does not make anecdotes evidence. Ask first has the method and data been independently peer tested.

Dont know where you've been living edmanual but the number if belts I've seen hanging in the breeze or out the door beggars belief in major cities too!
JP

[Sabantien]

While I suspect most people i know wear seatbelts (especially in modern cars... BEEP BEEP BEEP BUGGER PFF!), i honestly have no doubt there's plenty of people who don't. Do you actively look in every car you pass to see if someone is wearing a belt?

You can't just assume that if someone dies alone in a single vehicle accident it's suicide. Some may be, sure. But hell. Doing something stupid in a car isn't an active suicide. I suspect the woman in a black car driving behind me with no lights on tonight was looking to top herself, but she sure was making it difficult for other road users to see her.

While suicide is a problem, idiocy is a far bigger one.

[.:4:.]

There are alot who are just impatient or distracted. When I had a van and sat up higher, it wasn't uncommon in traffic to see people eating bowls of cereal, women putting their face on, and on occasion women in skirts Umm (enough on that). These things should be done at home.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by EDManual

Always annoys me this "failing to wear seatbelt" thing! Ok, so there may be the odd drunk that doesnt put on his belt and stacks... but seriously have you ever seen a normal a to b driver with no seatbelt on? I have been driving for 25 years all over the place and have NEVER noticed even one. So sure there may be a farmer that may not wear one here and there, but the rest are suicides surely, I mean, drive into a tree or whatever at 100kmh and take off your seatbelt. Thats what most are.

Over the years I've noticed a large number of people that don't wear belts, you get a pretty good view from a Truck.

In over 40 years of driving Trucks Interstate I've never worn a seat belt.
Having said that, I never leave the driveway in a car without putting one on.

[290v]

so they are saying in 20 yrs time it will be the 50 to 69 yr old that will be the worst drivers
----------so we are breading them out of the system!

[Beastie]

I wonder if this guy falls into that category...Happened across the road from my work yesterday. The driver would have been late forties / early fifties?

https://youtu.be/zyaOAmuac2o

This was the end result after fishtailing it up the street, losing it, then taking out the gate post & fence...

Sorry about the crappy pics.