Covid 19 -

[T3rminator]

Funny, I live in said place. At this stage, it is one of the most liberal, yet draconian, lock down I've seen. People are out, cars are out, you are allowed to be out to exercise with NO time limits. 25kms is a pretty decent radius to travel in the midst of a pandemic, under "full" lock down. You can meet a friend outside. Food shops are opened for takeaway, hardware shops and some retailers are opened for click and collect, even mechanics are operational for the general public.

Yes, small retailers, that can only operate with people gathered indoors, are closed and feeling the pain, but it is a necessary evil to combat this disease. Having said that, the northern suburbs results are looking good, and will allow some easing announcements either today or tomorrow.

The media has a lot to answer for with the mental illness side of things. The hourly negativity and sometimes false and twisted narratives is contributing to the issue. In some outlets, I'd go as far as to say they are trying to "incite" unrest. IMHO.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Funny, I live in said place. At this stage, it is one of the most liberal, yet draconian, lock down I've seen. People are out, cars are out, you are allowed to be out to exercise with NO time limits. 25kms is a pretty decent radius to travel in the midst of a pandemic, under "full" lock down. You can meet a friend outside. Food shops are opened for takeaway, hardware shops and some retailers are opened for click and collect, even mechanics are operational for the general public.

Yes, small retailers, that can only operate with people gathered indoors, are closed and feeling the pain, but it is a necessary evil to combat this disease. Having said that, the northern suburbs results are looking good, and will allow some easing announcements either today or tomorrow.

The media has a lot to answer for with the mental illness side of things. The hourly negativity and sometimes false and twisted narratives is contributing to the issue. In some outlets, I'd go as far as to say they are trying to "incite" unrest. IMHO.

With due respect you only commented for last week only not the whole lockdown experience.
I and my wife still cannot see any family members due to them all living in regional Victoria boundaries
As for the media to blame I won't have any of that, they report it you then digest the news and make up your own mind from whatever source, if any media uncovers what some governments try to hide, interestingly how some of state cabinet ministers were quoted relying on the media for information....what a fn joke.

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

we rarely go out due to my wife's illness, so whilst not forced to be home we are doing it by choice

and please don't try to tell me that suicide deaths are up coz they aren't, and yes a lot more people are seeking help with the stress of living through this, and truthfully people would seek help due to the stress of the illness regardless of being locked down or not

I was not alluding to suicide as this can already be established in ongoing statistics but was referring to many other medical mental issues that can impact on us.

[russellw]

Data valid as at 23:59 GMT October 25th, 2020.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting except for the Victorian 14 day moving averages.

14 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR drops to 3.289% while active cases rise to 1,427. NSW recorded 7 cases, WA 3, SA 4 cases with the balance in Victoria.

The Victorian State 14 day moving average is down to 4.14 with metro falling to 3.6 (7 unknown) and regional still at 0.2 with no unknown cases (including today). Victoria reported no new cases for the last 24 hours.

1 new case and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.292% and active cases drop to 70.

The UK had a lower 19,790 new cases yesterday. We know they are now not counting their mortalities by the WHO guidelines so we are going to ignore the CMR but even using their method they recorded 151 deaths.

Just under 80k new cases in the USA yesterday and 784 deaths sees CMR drop to 2.606% and active cases up to 32.4% with the raw numbers rising and now over 2.8M. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
It's the weekend so case numbers should be down a bit today -

Global cases pass 43M with the last 1M taking only 2 days;
Asia passes 13M cases;
Europe passes 0.25M deaths;

The USA completes 133M, India 102M and Russia 57M tests;

Angola (355)
Lithuania (606) - now 5 days in a row and 28% up on yesterday
North Macedonia (647)
Denmark (945)
Azerbaijan (946)
Libya (1,639)
Croatia (2,421) - now 5 days in a row
Slovakia (3,042)
Hungary (3,149) - 52% up on the previous high
Iran (6,191)
Netherlands (10,202)
Belgium (17,709)
Italy (21,273) - now 5 days in a row; and
France (52,010) all recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive days.

[Trevor 57]

just saw this and thought I would share a point of view lol

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

just saw this and thought I would share a point of view lol


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I've only ever seen a free Tibet T shirt but there you go.
Could be worse we could all be living in a European capital city atm.

Seems to me the most effective way of controlling outbreaks would be the night time curfews.
Less drunken fools and antisocial behaviour, out of control parties, car hoon gatherings, robberies, daytime activities are something a little more manageable I guess.

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

just saw this and thought I would share a point of view lol

He used to be known as "Peter". Now known as "Peta".

[Trevor 57]

I think they use 'as the crows fly' as the measurement. I was surprised too, but I applied for a permit and it showed us as living in the bubble and as far north as past Holbrook

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

I think they use 'as the crows fly' as the measurement. I was surprised too, but I applied for a permit and it showed us as living in the bubble and as far north as past Holbrook

Yep just looked at the map. Shepps and Benalla is in but Violet Town Isn't ??? That doesn't make sense.

https://www.service.nsw.gov.au/borde...-address-check

[Itsme]

Well the figures show us that we have reached the threshold for us Melbournians to be released from lockdown restrictions and it is about time our Premier Dan do the right by us and let us move forward.
He and the government has had time to learn from their mistakes and get their act together for the sake of Victoria.
Cheers.

[Trevor 57]

I have only heard a little bit of what he said, but it appears to have opened things up a bit

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

I have only heard a little bit of what he said, but it appears to have opened things up a bit

It is a bigger opening than I had thought the gov would take. Includes all retail and hospitality. I thought they may have done 50%, wait a few weeks, then another 50%, but its a big bang albeit with restrictions. Excellent work. Mark my words, if we can keep things opened for a few months with no uncontrollable outbreaks, other countries will start following our model. Especially if we can get some crowds for boxing day and have Christmas somewhat opened. Snipets of Dandrews pressers are already being shown on BBC UK.

But there is no reprieve from the arm chair snipers. Not even for the first 5 minutes. Straight into slagging off the contact tracers, and allowing shops to use pen and paper registration system. One pointed at NSW's gold standard of automation....blatant lie as a lot of shops in NSW still use pen and paper. Anyhow, no use being upset at a TV screen, time to enjoy the sun shine.

[jmack]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

It is a bigger opening than I had thought the gov would take. Includes all retail and hospitality. I thought they may have done 50%, wait a few weeks, then another 50%, but its a big bang albeit with restrictions. Excellent work. Mark my words, if we can keep things opened for a few months with no uncontrollable outbreaks, other countries will start following our model. Especially if we can get some crowds for boxing day and have Christmas somewhat opened. Snipets of Dandrews pressers are already being shown on BBC UK.

But there is no reprieve from the arm chair snipers. Not even for the first 5 minutes. Straight into slagging off the contact tracers, and allowing shops to use pen and paper registration system. One pointed at NSW's gold standard of automation....blatant lie as a lot of shops in NSW still use pen and paper. Anyhow, no use being upset at a TV screen, time to enjoy the sun shine.

Its funny on here most of the armchair slagging have been from your side from the likes of you,trev,tickford and admin etc.what are your thoughts on Gladys. Me personally she should go but that is being objective not 1 eyed

[cs123]

Originally Posted by jmack

Its funny on here most of the armchair slagging have been from your side from the likes of you,trev,tickford and admin etc.what are your thoughts on Gladys. Me personally she should go but that is being objective not 1 eyed

I loved how Gladys kept bashing QLD for their border stance, then slammed the Vic border shut... and made up some bull **** excuse that she 100% believed....

Plus she is a champion shredder...

[FairmontGS]

Originally Posted by cs123

Plus she is a champion shredder...

You’re only guilty if you’re caught!

https://youtu.be/UZ9n1x9YjjY


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[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by jmack

Its funny on here most of the armchair slagging have been from your side from the likes of you,trev,tickford and admin etc.what are your thoughts on Gladys. Me personally she should go but that is being objective not 1 eyed

I make no apologies for slagging on these "journalist", that twist and distort facts, then publish it on mediums that get broadcast to millions of Australians. And, it appears that they are doing it for political reasons and not the benefit of Victorians.

Gladys, on the surface it doesnt look good. She'll get pushed out if someone else is gunning for her job, otherwise it'll be a free pass. Where are the investigative journalists digging into the issue? Imagine if the Vic gov had shredded paperwork and permanently deleted emails . Or had evidence run over by a tractor. Instead, we are reading sob stories about her not being able to fall in love. WTF?

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

I make no apologies for slagging on these "journalist", that twist and distort facts, then publish it on mediums that get broadcast to millions of Australians. And, it appears that they are doing it for political reasons and not the benefit of Victorians.

To be fair all news media whether print, digital or TV will be bias who ever it is and to be quite honest you or anyone can slag much as you like, news media is no different to our dirty politics that get played every day.
I have my preferences and that is what matters to me.
Cheers.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by jmack

Its funny on here most of the armchair slagging have been from your side from the likes of you,trev,tickford and admin etc.what are your thoughts on Gladys. Me personally she should go but that is being objective not 1 eyed

a bigger picture point of view. The Federal Liberal Party is controlled by the NSW Liberal Party, any Liberal PM's are not game to ****-bag NSW Liberal Party coz there will be consequences. All recent Liberal PM's have come from NSW (for obvious reasons) - and people go crook at Labor for being 'factional'

So, in ScoMo & Co's eyes Gladys can do no wrong (for obvious reasons). Haven't you noticed that other Liberal led States are actually doing better than NSW but ScoMo & Co NEVER EVER mention them, let alone touting them as 'Gold Standard'

It is all just a farce

If Barry O'Farrell was gracious enough to step aside over a bottle of wine, Gladys should be well and truly gone

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by snap0964

Malcolm doing some standup comedy . . .

We've been letting some political post go, but something that isn't even remotely related, and 5 years old, just won't cut it.

[Trevor 57]

All being well, one Victoria after November 8th

[Trevor 57]

Doesn't look much, if anything changes for regional Victoria

[FairmontGS]

Victoria coronavirus: Daniel Andrews says Melbourne's restrictions to ease from Wednesday

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-...-says/12813254

You've got to be happy about that!

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

Victoria coronavirus: Daniel Andrews says Melbourne's restrictions to ease from Wednesday

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-...-says/12813254

You've got to be happy about that!

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GET ON THE BEERS!

[Trevor 57]

I had better be careful coz we are not supposed to discuss politics on FF, so best we stop eh?

[roKWiz]

Glady's my favourite. Just read the glowing reviews I praise her for in the Sydney rail thread.

[tweeked]

Well done by Andrews with the announcement, he made it quickly and is opening more than I expected. Gets a big tick from me.

Now he needs to double down on his contact tracing, get that right and we have a chance of keeping it under control till March next year. I think the warmer weather will protect us till then, but come March it will be game on, everyone will be complacent, a really dangerous time.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by tweeked

Well done by Andrews with the announcement, he made it quickly and is opening more than I expected. Gets a big tick from me.

Now he needs to double down on his contact tracing, get that right and we have a chance of keeping it under control till March next year. I think the warmer weather will protect us till then, but come March it will be game on, everyone will be complacent, a really dangerous time.

You keep going on about this, can you please explain how the NSW contact tracing works as opposed the Victorian system. Curious.

On the Fed Govco app Covidsafe, it was a complete failure only detecting 17 cases altogether. (this mornings news)

[Citroënbender]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

…On the Fed Govco app Covidsafe, it was a complete failure only detecting 17 cases altogether. (this mornings news)

At what - $72M? That’s $4.2M per case detected.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

At what - $72M? That’s $4.2M per case detected.

Money well spent, eh.

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

You keep going on about this, can you please explain how the NSW contact tracing works as opposed the Victorian system. Curious.

On the Fed Govco app Covidsafe, it was a complete failure only detecting 17 cases altogether. (this mornings news)

I'm not fussed about the state vs state and finger pointing as some do here but forgetting the gov app it seems to be how NSW Health has communicated and operated to date.
This has a little about it and disregard ScoMo quoting away.....
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-...ntrol/12636890
Also for as long as I can recall we have not needed to get a referal from the GP for a covid test, its just turn up get tested.
I had one again last Wednesday due to the Bathurst 1000 news for I was there Friday and thought better get one - had test @ 9am amazed I got my sms reply by 2pm same day.
My brother did as well, he recieved 2 follow up calls from Health asking more q's just for more info, he asked why, answer was this is what we do.
In part there is also some luck if you can say that, with the amount of spikes that have occurred now and then I thought were doomed BUT again, its been tracked, root cause found, contacted as many around that person at the time and in the press warned to get checks if in that area.
Seems some people in the community listen for we've avoided the need of lockdown.