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[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by b0son

When someone starts posting quack youtube videos, I know better than to go down that rabbit-hole. Enjoy your kool aid.

I am guessing you did not even watch the videos, and if you did you did not understand them, the videos simply explain the studies that you refer to as evidence that red meat causes cancer, or fried meat causes cancer.

The studies are flawed and conducted incorrectly, if you actually bothered to read the studies then you would quickly realise that they do not show what the general media tells you they show, but that they prove quite the opposite.

But I guess you can just call them quack videos based on no evidence what so ever, even the Institute of Cancer agrees with the Quack Videos, and states on their own web site that the studies are flawed and show no links to humans, but hey what do they know

[b0son]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

I am guessing you did not even watch the videos

The first video, he attempts to obfuscate by arguing the results may have been different if people had been eating grass-fed or organic beef, then telling us how great he feels after eating meat. Well flap, follwing that logic, let's all take cocaine! It's laughable when we already know what we do of the chemistry of red vs white meat, and the types of reaction byproducts that are produced in it via cooking.

The second, from a doctor that was prosecuted by the medical board for inadequate cleaning/disinfection/sterilisation practices and may even still be on probation. Not sure I want to be taking his advice. He doesn't actually point out flaws in the methodology, he argues that because the relative risk is not overwhelming, its near enough to be zero. Yet earlier he quotes confidence intervals that demonstrate statistical significance. His videos are clearly pitched at the ignorant.

A number of Berry's other videos are dismantled here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjsOgOel9AQ

Like I said, feel free to drink the keto kool aid. But you're more likely to find that echo chamber you so desperately crave, elsewhere.

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by b0son

The first video, he attempts to obfuscate by arguing the results may have been different if people had been eating grass-fed or organic beef, then telling us how great he feels after eating meat. Well flap, follwing that logic, let's all take cocaine! It's laughable when we already know what we do of the chemistry of red vs white meat, and the types of reaction byproducts that are produced in it via cooking.

The second, from a doctor that was prosecuted by the medical board for inadequate cleaning/disinfection/sterilisation practices and may even still be on probation. Not sure I want to be taking his advice. He doesn't actually point out flaws in the methodology, he argues that because the relative risk is not overwhelming, its near enough to be zero. Yet earlier he quotes confidence intervals that demonstrate statistical significance. His videos are clearly pitched at the ignorant.

A number of Berry's other videos are dismantled here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjsOgOel9AQ

Like I said, feel free to drink the keto kool aid. But you're more likely to find that echo chamber you so desperately crave, elsewhere.

You call Dr Berry a quack yet you link a video from Vegan Footsoldier who wears a mask, scratches is balls throughout the video with absolutely no educational back ground.

I mean the man is too embarrassed to show his face as he probably knows how stupid his pointless rants are that he is too embarrassed to own them.

Sorry mate, but I am out, you may as well link the tooth fairy. Anyone that even watches this fool needs a mental health check.

[b0son]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

You call Dr Berry a quack yet you link a video from Vegan Footsoldier

Well, if you can take the p155, why can't I...

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by b0son

Well, if you can take the p155, why can't I...

I was not taking the ****, I simply linked a video that explained the studies, the studies are there to be looked at and read and are available for everyone, but most people will not bother doing that and will simply read the headline.

Them make an uneducated comment like you did where you say cooking meat causes cancer, when in fact if you actually read the whole study there is no evidence of this.

The study isolated the bad part of the cooked meat, and fed a dosage many thousands of times higher to rats, they also fed it in the absence of the actual meat and the nutrition, so these rats were existing on the poisonous part of the process, and then they got sick. What a surprise.

Basically they poisoned the rats and then when the poison worked they concluded that cooking meat makes you sick.

Apples contain small amounts of arsenic, so we isolate the arsenic from apples and feed it in high concentration to something, then when the animal dies we can conclude that apples are poisonous and we should not be eating them.

[b0son]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

Them make an uneducated comment like you did

So not even with my PhD in biochemistry would my opinion be considered educated?

WTFever.

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by b0son

So not even with my PhD in biochemistry would my opinion be considered educated?

WTFever.

Unless you read the study and understood it then you can't have an educated opinion on the subject.

Not sure how biochemistry relates to nutrition anyway.