Hiclone

csv8 · 30-06-2005, 08:19 PM

Ok. We all bag this product. BUT with rising fuel prices and Adolph Howard not reducing the excise. Anyone here using or used one. What is your experience ? does it work or not ?

rodderz · 30-06-2005, 08:30 PM

My brother used one on a diesel hilux. Said it may have improved his fuel consumption by 50km's or so going by his trips...but couldnt notice much in the way it drove

RED_EL_XR8 · 30-06-2005, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Ok. We all bag this product. BUT with rising fuel prices and Adolph Howard not reducing the excise. Anyone here using or used one. What is your experience ? does it work or not ?

No! We all bag it because its absolute snake all with no credible way to back its claims.. (Adolph howard, huh, loopy latham will be pleased to know at least one believer bought his book.)

Casper · 30-06-2005, 08:37 PM

one more political comment and this thread will go the way of all the others that get political.

T_Terror · 01-07-2005, 12:56 AM

Im skeptical but ive read at least one reputable magazine article that found small gains from it. They were VERY surprised.

SpoolMan · 01-07-2005, 01:32 AM

More info and prices etc here.
http://www.fuelsaver.com.au/

jabba · 01-07-2005, 08:28 AM

I used a hiclone in my AU XR8. my milage was improved and I got an extra 80 km to a tank. There was no performance gains at all. And I have not installed one in to my BA.

outside · 01-07-2005, 09:28 AM

there is aready a thread on this

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=10094

needturbo6 · 03-07-2005, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Ok. We all bag this product. BUT with rising fuel prices and Adolph Howard not reducing the excise. Anyone here using or used one. What is your experience ? does it work or not ?

some cars it works, some it doesnt- like the 4L SOHC motors.

ive read great gains in fuel economy on the xf's, and also a tiny bit more power.

i think it depends on the inlet manifold, how long the runners are and the shape of it. ie. no sharp bends. IT is supposed to produce a swirling motion in the air (something known to produce power and economy) and into the combustion chamber. So as long as its still swirling when it gets past the valves then it will work, just depends how much swirling effect is left. two hiclones help - one at each end of the throttle body pipe.

but all depends on what car its put on. there is a 30 day money back garuntee on em so they can be worth a try.

seano14 · 03-07-2005, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by needturbo6

but all depends on what car its put on. there is a 30 day money back garuntee on em so they can be worth a try.

i was shocked that i didnt find a hyclone ad in your signature :evil_laug

you could try if you like... but to me you're paying $160 for this nice little piece of metal... and it doesnt even have neons

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Lukeyson · 03-07-2005, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RED_EL_XR8

No! We all bag it because its absolute snake all with no credible way to back its claims..

But their TV ad says 'you just gained 4hp at the wheels', so it must be true !
/sarcasm off
LOL

My old man bought one of these years ago when they hit the shelves, he wacked it in his EF TQE, and he said it was a POS, noticed a decline in mid range rpm performance, no economy increase. Item was promptly returned

MrSparkle · 03-07-2005, 04:18 PM

I'll sell you an intake restrictor for HALF, yes HALF the advertised price of the Hiclone! And I'll include TWICE as many ridiculous claims!!!!!!!

needturbo6 · 03-07-2005, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by seano14

i was shocked that i didnt find a hyclone ad in your signature :evil_laug

you could try if you like... but to me you're paying $160 for this nice little piece of metal... and it doesnt even have neons

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all depends on the car and its intake system. AS I SAID some cars it will work some it wont. Im giving the product a fair review, and if you knew more about pyhsics and ways to increase power i think you would too.....

And yes its $160 but if ya want your money back ya can, so really it doesnt depend on what I THINK, it depends on what the person who buys it thinks and if its worth that money to em. if not they take it back. simple really, isnt it? it aint rocket science.

needturbo6 · 03-07-2005, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by XR8fella

But their TV ad says 'you just gained 4hp at the wheels', so it must be true !
/sarcasm off
LOL

My old man bought one of these years ago when they hit the shelves, he wacked it in his EF TQE, and he said it was a POS, noticed a decline in mid range rpm performance, no economy increase. Item was promptly returned

yep thats it, wont work on the ef 6cyl, intake tract is too long and too sharp bends. I wouldnt bother fitting them to most efi cars, as most have fairly long and sharp bending intake manifold pipes.

i would say carbied cars get better gains coz their intake manifolds are usually shortish and no big banana bends.

RED_EL_XR8 · 03-07-2005, 11:13 PM

Thats just cruel offering this "help" only to owners of cardy'd cars, heaven knows they already have enough to contend with!! :the_finge

Aw, come on Carby People it was a joke, just like the intake mounted lemon grater shown above.. :evil_laug

cogdoc · 04-07-2005, 10:04 PM

I thought the idea was to help atomise the fuel due to turbulance, but how the "swirl" survives through EFI inlets I have no idea. Still the Helix style spacer touted by many for the BA V8's "seems" to have a credible effect, but personally I can't see how, other than adding to the length and volume of the inlet...I could believe small ones IN the inlet just prior to the injector having an effect....

With a carb, I can see how this may work, as the doover is often right on top of where the fuel is added in the carb. I managed to score a freebie "back in the day" and noticed no effect on any carbie car i put it on.

Strangely I have noticed these as standard fitment in the inlet of a few stock diesel 4x4's...

I wonder if anyone has been silly enough to bolt one up before a turbo....

rooster32 · 29-07-2005, 08:15 PM

Had two in a rodeo made no difference at all. Cheaper ways of achieving same effect, or claimed effect.

29-07-2005, 09:27 PM

Yeah it saves fuel... by restricting the amount of air that can get to your engine.

Schmaigz · 29-07-2005, 10:54 PM

that doesn't save fuel, dumbass. That causes rich running

Psycho Chicken · 29-07-2005, 11:18 PM

How the hell can a restriction cause rich running, dumbarse? The fuel is metered AFTER the restriction. Get a clue before you abuse people.

**Mesa** · 30-07-2005, 01:51 PM

I'm putting one in. All I need now is a polariser.

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Shonky · 30-07-2005, 04:49 PM

I have a mate considering putting one on his Turbo deisel Daihatsu Rocky (Suzuki Sierra sized 4WD)

I don't know much about these HiClone things, but I have heard a bit about them.

Would it be worth his while or is it really as much of a useless piece of shatmandu as you guys make out?

deesun · 30-07-2005, 11:10 PM

When HIclone avertise on TV in my area the only places that they advertise that carry them are 4wd shops. Maybe thats where they work best in underdeveloped diesels and 4wds

Mike Gayner · 31-07-2005, 11:11 AM

Funny, you'd think the car manufacturers who spend million upon millions of dollars researching and developing methods of inproving fuel economy and power would know about these things.

Total crap, complete rip off.

cookie_thief23 · 31-07-2005, 01:19 PM

i would attatch twin hair dryers or garden leaf blowers to my intake and probably get more results from 0.5psi lol

T3rminator · 31-07-2005, 01:40 PM

How is this device different from the spacers that are very popular? Same theory isn't it?

Walkinshaw · 31-07-2005, 04:54 PM

Thing with the Helix's is they also increase the plenum volume, so even if they dont provide a vortex action, they increase the plenum volume.

NIGHTHAWK · 01-08-2005, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by needturbo6

all depends on the car and its intake system. AS I SAID some cars it will work some it wont. Im giving the product a fair review, and if you knew more about pyhsics and ways to increase power i think you would too.....

And yes its $160 but if ya want your money back ya can, so really it doesnt depend on what I THINK, it depends on what the person who buys it thinks and if its worth that money to em. if not they take it back. simple really, isnt it? it aint rocket science.

Where can you buy this thing and can i fit it myself?