Covid 19 -

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by wodahs

take away places can stay open for non essential services so bottlo's are ok

Usually only one or two workers at a bottle shop.

Originally Posted by wodahs

but places of worship , pubs clubs casinos and churches are no go

All of them usually have hundreds of people inside a contained indoor area.

Pretty obvious why.

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Usually only one or two workers at a bottle shop.

All of them usually have hundreds of people inside a contained indoor area.

Pretty obvious why.

and thats why i said the bottlos are ok and others arnt

[Tickford.]

Reports from overseas suggest petrol/diesel pumps have been a super spreader of COVID-19. Please keep this in mind next time you're at the pump, and take precautions.

[xxx000]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Reports from overseas suggest goo/diesel pumps have been a super spreader of COVID-19. Please keep this in mind next time you're at the pump, and take precautions.

Would love to see one of these actual confirmed eports as so far all I've received is several of those dodgy warnings not unlike the 'as of tomorrow Facebook owns everything you've posted' style ones stating this.

[cheap]

This is what I see happening and it is really a bad situation.

The feds all along have been very slow to react, their focus has primarily been to look at the massive economic impacts a nationwide shutdown would impose, their health experts do not operate a single hospital. Instead literally throwing money at the problem. Secondary has been the medical issue.

Whilst the states are bearing the brunt of a medical emergency, they operate the hospitals and these facilities and staff are being smashed. Hence many of the states have said enough is enough! We’re implementing lockdowns, shops, schools, sports everything non essential.

This major disconnect between the two became evident on Sunday afternoon when ScoMo was caught on the back foot by Vic and NSW decisions.

ScoMo’s response to the states, a half hearted lockdown and a passing shot at the states, basically if the states decided to implement a lockdown they do so at their own risk and they will be contributing to the huge economic hit to Australia, and btw the increase in active cases is because people aren’t succinctly obeying our social distancing rules.

Trying to figure out this mess, leads me to conclude that the feds position is that not enough people have died to warrant a national shutdown.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by cheap

This is what I see happening and it is really a bad situation.

The feds all along have been very slow to react, their focus has primarily been to look at the massive economic impacts a nationwide shutdown would impose, their health experts do not operate a single hospital. Instead literally throwing money at the problem. Secondary has been the medical issue.

Whilst the states are bearing the brunt of a medical emergency, they operate the hospitals and these facilities and staff are being smashed. Hence many of the states have said enough is enough! We’re implementing lockdowns, shops, schools, sports everything non essential.

This major disconnect between the two became evident on Sunday afternoon when ScoMo was caught on the back foot by Vic and NSW decisions.

ScoMo’s response to the states, a half hearted lockdown and a passing shot at the states, basically if the states decided to implement a lockdown they do so at their own risk and they will be contributing to the huge economic hit to Australia, and btw the increase in active cases is because people aren’t succinctly obeying our social distancing rules.

Trying to figure out this mess, leads me to conclude that the feds position is that not enough people have died to warrant a national shutdown.

I get the feeling that whilst Scomo is obviously concerned about us, he's equally in survival mode of his own position and is now pointing to the populations actions to justify any further action.
We made him do it.

[cheap]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

I get the feeling that whilst Scomo is obviously concerned about us, he's equally in survival mode of his own position and is now pointing to the populations actions to justify any further action.
We made him do it.

For sure he is in survival mode, the state premiers challenged his authority and much of the rest of world has taken a different trajectory to ScoMo. How effective will social distancing be? IMO not very effective. Stage 1 today, Stage 2 coming soon.

As for no evidence about kids being carriers, I mean WTF??? Kids have the same physiological makeup as the rest of us.

I have 2 ”kids” currently suspended from physically attending university and the other attending school in year 10 - so which of the three is at greater risk?

ScoMo had previously used Singapore as evidence of keeping schools open, but conveniently doesn’t mention that Singapore immediately closed its borders and they have a small handful of manageable virus cases to deal with, so yes their schools are open.

[marty351]

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[Franco Cozzo]

https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...21-p54cky.html

Updates on the National Cabinet from Scomo

Prime Minister Scott Morrison was asked if other retail businesses like hairdressers would have to close.

He responded that the closures would only be enforced on the places of social gathering that he had specifically outlined.

Those are:

Pubs
Clubs
Cinemas
Casinos
Places of worship
Nightclubs
Entertainment venues
Gyms and indoor sporting venues
Cafes and restaurants will be restricted to takeaway only
Funeral homes will have to enforce strict social distancing of four square metres

Questions remaining over VIC/NSW closures.

[superyob]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...21-p54cky.html

Updates on the National Cabinet from Scomo



Questions remaining over VIC/NSW closures.

Where will the dirty old men hold their weekly meetings now Big D? Did Scomo even take that into consideration???

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by superyob

Where will the dirty old men hold their weekly meetings now Big D? Did Scomo even take that into consideration???

The dirty old man/degenerate club is mostly on hold - just about all of our venues are closed

Got credits on my Brisbane trip from QANTAS - can reuse when this calms down.

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by superyob

Where will the dirty old men hold their weekly meetings now Big D?

We're having it at this Hotel. Apparently Old Franco can run pretty hard for a big fella...

[BENT_8]

Well, im not sure how I feel, part of me is relieved, part of me is sad and theres a kind of numbness in between but I was informed this afternoon that my employer is shutting the doors as of Thursday 9th March permanently as they cant survive without ongoing work.
Costs are too high to have a fleet of 20 buses sitting idle, cant blame them really and being the realist that I am, fully expected it at any tick of the clock anyway.

I've decided to finish up this Friday for two reasons, firstly to get a head start on the rest of our crew in looking for any work that I can get, although im not holding my breath, and secondly, because one of my colleagues Husband was laid off last week when the Coach work ceased and he's an older guy who'll find it even harder to find something so I figure the remaining 2 weeks of my run will benefit them more than me.

So, with that said, Saturday morning im hooking up the camper and heading up the river for a few days of isolated, free camping, to destress and clear my head whilst we're still allowed outside.

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Well, im not sure how I feel, part of me is relieved, part of me is sad and theres a kind of numbness in between but I was informed this afternoon that my employer is shutting the doors as of Thursday 9th March permanently as they cant survive without ongoing work.
Costs are too high to have a fleet of 20 buses sitting idle, cant blame them really and being the realist that I am, fully expected it at any tick of the clock anyway.

I've decided to finish up this Friday for two reasons, firstly to get a head start on the rest of our crew in looking for any work that I can get, although im not holding my breath, and secondly, because one of my colleagues Husband was laid off last week when the Coach work ceased and he's an older guy who'll find it even harder to find something so I figure the remaining 2 weeks of my run will benefit them more than me.

So, with that said, Saturday morning im hooking up the camper and heading up the river for a few days of isolated, free camping, to destress and clear my head whilst we're still allowed outside.

Sorry to hear mate. Hope you can get it sorted. I've been made redundant before and it really sucks.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Well, im not sure how I feel, part of me is relieved, part of me is sad and theres a kind of numbness in between but I was informed this afternoon that my employer is shutting the doors as of Thursday 9th March permanently as they cant survive without ongoing work.
Costs are too high to have a fleet of 20 buses sitting idle, cant blame them really and being the realist that I am, fully expected it at any tick of the clock anyway.

I've decided to finish up this Friday for two reasons, firstly to get a head start on the rest of our crew in looking for any work that I can get, although im not holding my breath, and secondly, because one of my colleagues Husband was laid off last week when the Coach work ceased and he's an older guy who'll find it even harder to find something so I figure the remaining 2 weeks of my run will benefit them more than me.

So, with that said, Saturday morning im hooking up the camper and heading up the river for a few days of isolated, free camping, to destress and clear my head whilst we're still allowed outside.

Sorry to hear mate. Hope you can find something to get you by in this tough time. As a single income family we only just get by each week however of you need anything just yell out and I'll see what I can do.

As for the camping, technically that is 'non essential travel' so may be frowned upon by some. I was intent on still going to mambray at Easter, given I can do the whole weekend without interacting with anyone but it seems I may have to cancel.

All the best mate.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

I was informed this afternoon that my employer is shutting the doors as of Thursday 9th March permanently as they cant survive without ongoing work.

The 9th of April ?

[superyob]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

We're having it at this Hotel. Apparently Old Franco can run pretty hard for a big fella...

[wodahs]

to me the interesting part will be how the domino affect caries on though out the community
the borders are closing if not already closed so mine workers from other states will find it harder as time goes on to fly in and out and non essential travel wont continue
so to me less general goods will need to travel too and there would also be less turn over of cash in the general community so people wont spend as much on say retail businesses like hairdressers or such

wonder if bunnings ends up closed any time soon

[aussiblue]

After the sports grants fiasco can we trust scumo? Now about the promises of bushfire recovery fund https://www.facebook.com/VicMemeMast...742592481/?t=2 where did that go?

[xxx000]

It's so easy to be critical yet this is an evolving situation that requires so many factors to be considered including the fact that much of the population ignores your directions anyway.

[Franco Cozzo]

Ford, GM and Tesla factories to manufacture ventilators

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...366482944?s=19

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by xxx000

It's so easy to be critical yet this is an evolving situation that requires so many factors to be considered including the fact that much of the population ignores your directions anyway.

Agreed, so many armchair hero's have their 2 cents, I dont envy being a pollie right now.

The school thing is interesting, if you think things are tough now once/if school stops then hold on because your available workforce will nearly halve.

[Franco Cozzo]

Strong message from Daniel Andrews

Pretty much no entertainment/hospitality/fitness venues.

[Poetic Justice]

Personally quite frustrated at the lack of cohesion between State & Fed govts - they ought to be on the same page whether rightly or wrongly.

From 3:30pm yesterday afternoon to 9:30pm the Vic govt announcing plans to shut down and then back pedalling at the behest of the PM is wildly unprofessional (lack of a better term) and smashing confidence in people.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by Poetic Justice

Personally quite frustrated at the lack of cohesion between State & Fed govts - they ought to be on the same page whether rightly or wrongly.

From 3:30pm yesterday afternoon to 9:30pm the Vic govt announcing plans to shut down and then back pedalling at the behest of the PM is wildly unprofessional (lack of a better term) and smashing confidence in people.

Have any Liberal states broken ranks.....

From what I gather Fed and State did meet to discuss the latest measures, seems cohesive enough given the situation.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Polyal

From what I gather Fed and State did meet to discuss the latest measures, seems cohesive enough given the situation.

The govt (state and fed) are under no obligation to fill the public in on the minutes of every meeting they have. Just because it isn't reported in the news, doesn't mean it didn't happen. There is nearly always an agenda with mainstream media (and social media) and sticking up for the govt is never it. Its always trying to tear it down or belittle it. Thats fact. The sheeple then jump on board.

Scomo, like any govt, is just a mouthpiece at the end of the day. The decisions are worked out by those in the meetings and he gets to deliver the news to the public.

Then the public just ignore it and do their own thing creating a mixture of panic and blaze attitudes.

[xxx000]

Originally Posted by prydey

The govt (state and fed) are under no obligation to fill the public in on the minutes of every meeting they have. Just because it isn't reported in the news, doesn't mean it didn't happen. There is nearly always an agenda with mainstream media (and social media) and sticking up for the govt is never it. Its always trying to tear it down or belittle it. Thats fact. The sheeple then jump on board.

Scomo, like any govt, is just a mouthpiece at the end of the day. The decisions are worked out by those in the meetings and he gets to deliver the news to the public.

Then the public just ignore it and do their own thing creating a mixture of panic and blaze attitudes.

Spot on comments

I'm tired of the countless what ifs and what about

[Poetic Justice]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Have any Liberal states broken ranks.....

From what I gather Fed and State did meet to discuss the latest measures, seems cohesive enough given the situation.

Unless it was a hoax there was a statement at around 3:30 yesterday from Daniel Andrews saying he intends to notify cabinet that Victoria will enter a state of shutdown over the next 48 hours.

This was followed by an inundation from my staff wondering if they still had a job.

By 9:30pm the Scott Morrison had talked them out of it.

[cheap]

Human trials of government-approved social distancing equipment will start soon...

[b0son]

Originally Posted by Poetic Justice

By 9:30pm the Scott Morrison had talked them out of it.

And then new cases surged.

Expect the states to tell ScoMo to eat a richard and to make their own announcements.