LS-LV Focus Duratec-HE 2L Oil Change Thread

[ConradP]

If you try again and get it, put some oil on it beforehand and well don't tighten it with 100nm of torque

[casabonka]

I tried wd40 which still didn't help! don't have room at my place, or ramps so can't even try again as I do this sort of stuff at my olds.

[REDDYZ]

Chris, I would strongly recommend to replace the plug with a new one once you get this off. Since it is rounded, it will be hard to take it out and more you try, it gets worst. Try with multi grip locking pliers if you have one. Best thing to do is to take it workshop, where the plug head can be grind to proper shape to fit a tool or there will be lot of tools and options. Unless you know what you are doing they are not advisable to try. Have you been trying to take it off on a cold engine or hot engine?

Yogi

cheers

[casabonka]

I tried at first hot, then let it cool.
Once I noticed how rounded it was I gave up. I went to supercrap and repco and neither could let me know what plug is needed... Never had an issue before, but all too hard so going to the local workshop next saturday and they can deal with it!

[Mainlube]

Mainlube has just released a new Mainlube 175 Synthetic Race SAE 0w40 designed for the Ford Focus, diesel and petrol.

Spec's cover the exhaust soot filter for the diesel.

Retail is $29.50 +gst.

Cheers

Steve

[rand0mn00b]

Originally Posted by Mainlube

Mainlube has just released a new Mainlube 175 Synthetic Race SAE 0w40 designed for the Ford Focus, diesel and petrol.

Spec's cover the exhaust soot filter for the diesel.

Retail is $29.50 +gst.

Cheers

Steve

the manual recommends 5w30 for my petrol focus

what effect would using 0w40 have on the engine?

[Neale]

agree, may be a bit too thin especially with the temp rising & also if your car is getting a few Km's on it.

The oil would probably be a bit more expensive, I think.

[Mainlube]

Originally Posted by rand0mn00b

the manual recommends 5w30 for my petrol focus

what effect would using 0w40 have on the engine?

Would provide slightly better protection.

The company I blended the 0w40 Race oil for told me the RS 2.5 Turbo takes 0w40 in the book.

0w40 is a tad ballser oil with spec plus a top line group IV PAO base oil.

Cheers

Steve

[ConradP]

Originally Posted by Mainlube

Would provide slightly better protection.

The company I blended the 0w40 Race oil for told me the RS 2.5 Turbo takes 0w40 in the book.

0w40 is a tad ballser oil with spec plus a top line group IV PAO base oil.

Cheers

Steve

May be for the RS and then the XR5, but the normal focus has a totally different engine in it. 2ltr 4cyl.

[josem]

Originally Posted by Mainlube

Mainlube has just released a new Mainlube 175 Synthetic Race SAE 0w40 designed for the Ford Focus, diesel and petrol.

Spec's cover the exhaust soot filter for the diesel.

Retail is $29.50 +gst.

Cheers

Steve

Does anyone know where I can get this mainlube in Sydney ? Went to SCA and Repco and they do not have this brand in stock.

[Mainlube]

Originally Posted by josem

Does anyone know where I can get this mainlube in Sydney ? Went to SCA and Repco and they do not have this brand in stock.

Mainlube Lubricants
14 Underwood Ave
Botany NSW 2019

9700-0880

Aaron has taken over this area.

Cheers

Steve

[casabonka]

Bit thin when cold isnt it at 0w40?

[josem]

Originally Posted by casabonka

Bit thin when cold isnt it at 0w40?

The most critical time for the engine is at cold startup. 0w is the best oil to use to provide the fastest circulation of oil to the critical parts via the very small pathways. Ford Focus dealers in California recommends 0w20 for their 2012 Focus and their summers are sometimes hotter than in Aus. Sometimes I cannot understand why some people still buy the very popular 20w50 oils for their daily use cars. I think even 15w40 is too thick for cold starts.

[rand0mn00b]

yes, that was my point in asking the question

there are several focuses and while 0w40 might be suitable for the XR5/RS according to the owner's manual it is unsuitable for the non-turbo 4 cylinder and probably the diesel as well

[Mainlube]

Originally Posted by rand0mn00b

yes, that was my point in asking the question

there are several focuses and while 0w40 might be suitable for the XR5/RS according to the owner's manual it is unsuitable for the non-turbo 4 cylinder and probably the diesel as well

Yes as the 0w40 is for more protection without too much change the original spec around 40C.

Cheers

Steve

[casabonka]

All sorted now, dropped off at the mechanics and got the radiator and brake fluid flushed at the same time.

[DeKa]

I notice you guys don't seem to be using oil which meets Ford's certifications - 5W-30 which meets Ford M2C913-B or M2C913-C (which succeeds -B).

I'm just wondering why not? Mobil Super FE 5W-30, Castrol Magnatec Professional A1 5W-30, Liqui-Moly LEICHTLAUF SPECIAL 5W-30 and Nulon Full Synth 5W-30 all meet either the -B or -C certification. Are these oils hard to find in stores, or too expensive? I haven't looked yet but am curious as to why you're using non-certified oils.

[REDDYZ]

Originally Posted by DeKa

I notice you guys don't seem to be using oil which meets Ford's certifications - 5W-30 which meets Ford M2C913-B or M2C913-C (which succeeds -B).

I'm just wondering why not? Mobil Super FE 5W-30, Castrol Magnatec Professional A1 5W-30, Liqui-Moly LEICHTLAUF SPECIAL 5W-30 and Nulon Full Synth 5W-30 all meet either the -B or -C certification. Are these oils hard to find in stores, or too expensive? I haven't looked yet but am curious as to why you're using non-certified oils.

Mobil, Castrol, Nulon are the familiar and easy to find ones. Mobil is expensive, Castrol and Nulon are ok. However, Castrol Magnatec Professional A1 5W-30 that you mentioned is only synthetic based but not fully synthetic and I haven't seen that before. Never heard or seen Liqui-Moly anywhere.

Instead, there is Castrol Edge Sport 5W-30 which is fully synthetic that you can buy under $40 for 5L lot of times. I have been using this since long and no issues so far. Keeps engine clean, oil stays fresh until 5000kms under tough conditions. I never let my car do more than 5000kms between oil changes. So, I don't how long does it last.

There are other brands that are good as well like Mainlube, Fuchs.. My car demands fully synthetic and have been using Castrol Edge 5W30 which is cheap and does the job for me.

[NZ XR6]

Originally Posted by REDDYZ

Mobil, Castrol, Nulon are the familiar and easy to find ones. Mobil is expensive, Castrol and Nulon are ok. However, Castrol Magnatec Professional A1 5W-30 that you mentioned is only synthetic based but not fully synthetic and I haven't seen that before. Never heard or seen Liqui-Moly anywhere.

Magnatec Professional A1 is now fully synthetic, whatever that means in Castrol speak. I understand that it's the Ford factory fill oil in Europe and seems to be used by Ford dealers here (NZ).

But Edge 5W-30 would be at least as good and is readily available. Plus for diesels it will be a much better choice as it is a low SAPS oil.

After a Ford dealer used Caltex 15W-40 in my XR6 at its first service, I did my own oil changes every 10,000 km and used Edge 5W-30. No complaints and it did improve the fuel consumption slightly on a regular commute.

[REDDYZ]

I think castrol has updated their range now. There is a titanium version in Edge 5W-30 which is new and costs $20 more than normal Edge 5W30. Both are fully synthetic though.

Originally Posted by NZ XR6

After a Ford dealer used Caltex 15W-40 in my XR6 at its first service

Thats a good one hahaha.. lol Something similar happened to my sister's Territory and after 2000kms oil level was at the bottom tip of the dipstick. Since then Edge 5W-30 and no dramas.

[DeKa]

Originally Posted by REDDYZ

I think castrol has updated their range now. There is a titanium version in Edge 5W-30 which is new and costs $20 more than normal Edge 5W30. Both are fully synthetic though.

This doesn't meet Ford's specs (M2C913-B or M2C913-C) for the Duratec-HE engine, even though it is 5W-30.

[LordFordNZ]

Originally Posted by DeKa

I notice you guys don't seem to be using oil which meets Ford's certifications - 5W-30 which meets Ford M2C913-B or M2C913-C (which succeeds -B).

I'm just wondering why not? Mobil Super FE 5W-30, Castrol Magnatec Professional A1 5W-30, Liqui-Moly LEICHTLAUF SPECIAL 5W-30 and Nulon Full Synth 5W-30 all meet either the -B or -C certification. Are these oils hard to find in stores, or too expensive? I haven't looked yet but am curious as to why you're using non-certified oils.

I currently use Liqui-Moly 5/30 for my LV 2.0L. Works well, get it through Autobarn - was around $70 for 5L. Which means you have around 500-600mls of oil left over, which is a bit annoying. Next change I want to try Royal Purple brand - more expensive (around $100 for 5L), though I think this oil is probably the best in class, and perhaps most underated. Check out the forums in here - one specialy dedicated to synthetic oils.

[DeKa]

Originally Posted by DeKa

I notice you guys don't seem to be using oil which meets Ford's certifications - 5W-30 which meets Ford M2C913-B or M2C913-C (which succeeds -B).

Liqui-Moly LEICHTLAUF SPECIAL 5W-30

Liqui Moly have an oil which meets WSS-M2C 913 C called Leichtlauf Special F 5 W-30

The Australian importer isn't importing it yet.

[ragged]

I did an oil change today on the GF's 3/2007 Focus today and could not find the power steering fluid reservoir. It has 'Dura Tec He' on top of the engine if that helps to identify where it might be? I was a bit confused with which filter to use as Ryco Z632 was listed as equivalent to Motorcraft AFL4. I used Penrite fully synthetic HPR 5 5W 40. Not only could I not find the power steering reservoir, but it was extremely difficult seeing the oil level on the dipstick. Am I going blind?
Cheers Dave

[Alpha_omega]

Originally Posted by DeKa

Liqui Moly have an oil which meets WSS-M2C 913 C called Leichtlauf Special F 5 W-30

The Australian importer isn't importing it yet.

I have spoken to local importer about getting the Ford spec "Ford WSS-M2C 913-C" oil which they recommend for the LW Focus.

According to them they are now started importing Leichtlauf Special F 5W-30, which has that specific compatibility.

The oil is currently available through this website
https://thecarcarestore.com.au/item_....php?code=3853

and hopefully soon from your local auto store.

[SpoolMan]

2011 - 2.0L Petrol models, the Ford service book does recommend to use 5w/30?

[DeKa]

Originally Posted by SpoolMan

2011 - 2.0L Petrol models, the Ford service book does recommend to use 5w/30?

You may want to start a new thread for LW Focus Oil Changes. It is a different engine, the 2.0L Duratec GDI which I believe requires 5W-20 with Ford Specification WSS-M2C945-A, not 5W-30.

[prlamb]

thanks this is a great thread

[Torment47]

I do my own services, cheaper than getting mechanic( 100-200 bux!) i service mine every 5 thousand, check my air filter,top up water levels, check p/s B/f ,hoses, air con,lights etc, Repco or super cheap usually have deals on oil ,and filter isn't that much.

[DeKa]

I found another oil which meets Ford WSS-M2C-913-C and WSS-M2C-913-B

Total QUARTZ 9000 FUTURE NFC 5W-30
http://www.totaloil.com.au/Pages/content/NT00010242.pdf

Distributors:
http://www.totaloil.com.au/Pages/aus...ocument&LG=EN&