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15-07-2010, 10:16 AM
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Flairs - Truckers Delight
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Brisbane Northside Likes: Opposite Lock
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So i've got the opportunity to buy a October 2004 BA MkII Futura Sedan for the right price ($3200). It's only got 400k on the clock, SVI Gas and a fully rebuilt IRS system.
Talk me out of why I shouldn't get a BA please, because I'm having a hard time resisting!
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15-07-2010, 10:19 AM
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Back to Le Frenchy
Join Date: Feb 2005
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If you want it why would you want to be talked out of it?
Unless you don't really want it?
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15-07-2010, 10:24 AM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: ...in the shed
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is that high km for a BA? i heard they're not as strong/reliable as the AU?
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15-07-2010, 10:55 AM
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Cruising...
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Perth
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ooh ooh weaker g'box/diff, fly by wire, not as comfy/cheaper interior, the dodgies you hear about parts, fit and finish, driveline issues.. uhm ah... well, if that ba seems to be in top condition, and at 400K on the clock where most of the problems would have been fixed, why not get it? specially if you want somthing fresher/modern/different to your au?
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15-07-2010, 11:27 AM
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Pity the fool
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Rebuilt IRS is a massive bonus too. No clunks!
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15-07-2010, 12:11 PM
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Resident AFF detailer
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Melbourne, VIC
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It does sound like you've made your mind up already.......Interceptor makes some valid points........do you have any doubts yourself??
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15-07-2010, 12:25 PM
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Location: Australia
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No one can really speak for yourself regarding a purchase its your choice.
I really couldn't put myself in your shoes as I wouldn't even consider buying it Ba or not with 400k's no matter what been rebuilt.....
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15-07-2010, 12:40 PM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2008
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It's not an au
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Current Blueprint 03 xr8  5 speed manual, Difilippo Quad Big Boy system, BPR CAI, BPR Custom tune, Underdrives 256rwkw   BA manual Typhoon Fully optioned, 340rwkw@16psi (thanks Bluepower)! The old ride.... AU Fairmont, cammed beast, R.I.P you made my p plate years bearable! 150.8rwkw courtesy BPR |
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15-07-2010, 12:46 PM
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Flairs - Truckers Delight
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Brisbane Northside Likes: Opposite Lock
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Yes i do have doubts. I like my AU's personality, I don't want to end up with some appliance as a car. My point is, is my AU great because it's a Falcon or great because it's an AU?
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15-07-2010, 12:49 PM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Is the BA going to be a replacement for the AU or an addition?
It is cheap enough to be worth it, SVI gas and all that. |
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15-07-2010, 01:23 PM
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Flairs - Truckers Delight
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Location: Brisbane Northside Likes: Opposite Lock
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Yeah the BA would replace the AUII. It's currently got 687k just fyi, and ran 120 & 125 rwhp on the dyno on gas and petrol respectively. Yes, HP not KW. Probably starting to get a little tired.
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15-07-2010, 01:43 PM
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Feel the boost
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Mount Gambier, SA
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The AU is good because its an AU. But the BA is good because its a BA, both the cars have pro's and con's. As mentioned by now at 400k the BA should have most issues sorted out. If it's what you want an the price is right, then take it.
But... Will you like your BA the way you like your AU?
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15-07-2010, 01:50 PM
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Cane Farmer
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Tom Price, WA
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If I had my time again, I'd never touch a series I BA....But that's from my experience with them.
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15-07-2010, 04:02 PM
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Former BTIKD
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Sunny Downtown Wagga Wagga. NSW.
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If it makes you feel better get the BA and fit an AU front on it!!
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15-07-2010, 04:26 PM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Have you thought about reconditioning the AU motor to freshen it up - if nothing else is wrong and you still like the feel of an AU, I would consider that as an option.
On the other hand, the BA is relatively cheap for the k's it has travelled, and if you just want a change then go the BA. I've driven BA's, including a Boss derivative, and I've stuck with the AUXR8 - my personal choice though. |
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15-07-2010, 04:32 PM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Toowoomba
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Ba Motor Into Au
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15-07-2010, 06:38 PM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Bexley, Sydney
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Put a fresh motor in the AU and be done with it. You know it's a good reliable car whereas the BA is a gamble. Besides BA's are bland, may aswell buy a camry. Au's have some character *flamesuit*
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15-07-2010, 08:53 PM
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Regular Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Mexico Vic
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Now for the record i have 2 AU2 utes and a fairly neat BA wagon and the BA is a much better looking car and better to drive IMO.My dad has a BA RTV and its friggin crap to drive and my utes are much better than his ute. The AU has a wonderful face for radio. |
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15-07-2010, 10:17 PM
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Drive it - if that doesn't convince you ....
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15-07-2010, 10:36 PM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Location: NSW
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your not going get too many guys here wanting to talk you out of an AU and into a B series,Ive had a BA ghia v8 ,I just never felt comfortable driving it compared to my 3 AU's, Xr6,Ghia and SR. nor did it look as good,a later BF2 is alot better though and I would almost replace my SR with a XR6/8 ZF auto though.
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15-07-2010, 10:36 PM
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All Bran = Regular Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
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He's due for replacement in Sept and for the first time in 20 years he's going for Holden over Ford. Anyhoo, for Mr Hardware, I'm not a great fan of the BA/BF but if you just want a change, why not? |
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15-07-2010, 10:47 PM
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The only thing u'll see!!
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Brisbane QLD
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Hey Hardware, The BA-BF has been a much better taxi than all other falcon models previous, esspesially regarding electrics, interior including seats longevity, and gearboxes. The major let downs have been with the thing that ford like to call a diff, and very unreliable rear outer roses joints (rectified as per your post) If u decide to purchase, install a Nolathane diff mount and u won't have to replace it again. Ive found that even a standard BA driven properly can outhandle an AU hands down especially on high speed cornering. Go for it, it's time for a change, my next car will probably be a BA XR8 running a GT42......
P.S. Just be aware that BA's will be a little noisy in the rear, turn u the sterio and u'll be right........ Later
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15-07-2010, 11:06 PM
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Flairs - Truckers Delight
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Brisbane Northside Likes: Opposite Lock
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thanks for your input guys, i think now it's simply considering the individual example and seeing whether it's something i'd like to own. I'll borrow it for a day or three and post some pics and let you know!
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16-07-2010, 12:10 AM
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U MAD?
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Perth
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My personal view is, why pay $3k for a BA with 400,000 kms when for $5k you can buy a BA with 160,000 kms?
I'd happily pay $2k if it meant driving a car that had travelled between 200,000 kms and 250,000 kms less!
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16-07-2010, 01:50 AM
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Regulator
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Location: Melbourne
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Having owned an AU1, AU2 and two BAs, I'd go back to the BA in a heart beat. The AU is a great car, but the BA is arguably nicer to drive and the Futura is a comfy cruiser. That said, I did miss certain features in my AUs when I had the B series.
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16-07-2010, 03:19 AM
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16-07-2010, 08:32 AM
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they call me Tibbo
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Brisbane
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high mileage AU vs BA the BA will win hands down. The interior is alot more robust, the engine won't leak and weep. You "might" have a little timing gear rattle on the Barra, but think of it as an AU diff- It can make the nosie for 300k and not implode.
A tired and worn out rear end would be where any serious money was to be spent and that box is checked off so imho go for it
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16-07-2010, 03:50 PM
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That stands for the Super Slow Slushbox version JC???
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AFF Whore
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Because otherwise the ICS Wizard and I will kick you out of the AU Falcon club at work!
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