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I miss understood the extent of the problem. I thought it was just oversized accpunts but its 3rd party issues so all our photos are gooooone!. Least i still have access so ill be downloading all files and swapping to another site. Bye bye photobucket
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08-07-2017, 02:13 PM | #2 | ||
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Flickr is an option for free hosting of pics. I've been checking it out a bit...
bafalconpic99 by EB#, on Flickr See account options here: https://www.flickr.com/account/upgrade/pro A few notes: - Flickr is owned by Yahoo. If you already have a Yahoo email account, the use of Flickr may be included (?)... It's worth a check. Storage should not be a problem, as 1TB is available on the free account. - Using Flickr is pretty simple. Upload the image, then share and link by a straight copy/paste of a 'BBCode'. - Upload your image at a suitable size first, or choose a new/reduced size for your thread at the time of linking. - A posted image includes a hyperlinked credit/link as shown above. This element can be moved to beneath the image or deleted, but editing of the link code is required to do this at the time of posting. However, deleting the credit link may go against the Flickr guidelines (?). - Although Flickr third party hosting is free, it doesn't necessarily mean it will stay that way.... as per the PB bombshell. - For a linked image, Flickr has a comparatively long & complex line of code, with the jpeg file name buried in the middle. So a global edit of existing linked images may not be possible for old threads here at AFF... Perhaps Russ could comment on this one? - I would suggest more research and a 'test drive' before jumping to a new image host such as Flickr or any of the others. There is plenty of additional info, reviews and comparisons online. For the AFF members that have used Flickr, feel free to add review notes or comments!
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I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows
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08-07-2017, 06:33 PM | #5 | ||
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Well..... looks like I've been caught out as well...
Years of posting on AFF and pics all gone. This place is starting to look pretty bland without all the pics now..
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I'm uploading my pictures via imgur far superior compare to PB so far, but my all my other pictures from PB are all gone
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Photobucket release statement on 6th July regarding 3rd party hosting....
Including the following slight change to terms.... 3. What users are affected by the changes to our 3rd Party Hosting policies? Moving forward, new and legacy free account users will NOT have third party hosting available. If you were a Plus Account subscriber in good standing as of June 1, 2017, you will continue to have all the privileges you have enjoyed including 3rd Party Hosting until December 31, 2018 as long as you maintain your subscription. Non Plus 500 Account subscribers that purchased after June 1, 2017 will not have access to 3rd Party Hosting. Full statement here... http://http://blog.photobucket.com/p...s-photobucket/ Also ....Photobucket addresses complaints over new policy that charges heavy users $400 http://www.denverpost.com/2017/07/06...over-charging/ |
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I've opened an account with IMGUR but can't figure out how to get the link that actually shows the pic when you post like you did. I can see in the edit option it offers a LINK to the pic but that's only a web link ?
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Upload pic Select pic This is on the right Select the size of the pic you want. Select BB code. Past that into your post
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Is it only desktop functionality ?
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Yeah, on the desktop. On the iphone I use the mobile website, not the app. That functionality is missing.
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Cool !
Works on phone - thanks ! Just need to fiddle with sizing. Thanks guys.....
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looking good my friend and I'm posting heaps of them same pics you have there
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09-07-2017, 10:51 AM | #16 | ||
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Mine was still working yesterday, but is stuffed today. I've started using postimage.org and it seems alright so far. Shame that all the show and shine threads etc. will now be pretty much full of broken links. Such a greedy way to do business. I understand that everyone using photobucket for free wouldn't have helped them but to make everyone go to the highest tier account if they want to hotlink (which is the only reason I'd use photobucket!) is ridiculous.
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A couple of other forums I'm on have allowed editing on old posts.
Basically letting us replace links or at the very least delete the Photobucket links.
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Most people have not thought of the following... Even if RussellW and his team find a way to replace all the links of photos you have uploaded to the new photo hoist (keeping the same file names) or even if space was made available here on the AFF servers... Even if you were allowed for a limited period to edit only your build thread and replace links, etc.... Even if you pay the ransom of AUD$520 per year... Here's why it will never be the same... The threads may also contain photos from other users in replies in your build thread which add valuable contributions and meaning. Some of these users, may no longer be active members, or may not upload their photos to a new host (or can't be bothered, etc). You won't be able to replace photos / links of all the contributors to your thread... So your build thread will always have the annoying bad Photobucket links! If you delete their Photobucket links all together instead... You have words in a reply that may have less meaning without the pics. Show N Shine threads like "Show us your FGX" or "Show us your Mustang" complied from many many members, will never be restored completely. Last edited by GO FURTHER; 09-07-2017 at 02:14 PM. |
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You are correct in saying that the 'show us your' threads are going to be the worst hit but we are investigating the possibility of moving them into a new forum and providing 'edit post' permissions for everyone for a specific time period. Some will never be fixed but that's well beyond our control. All the Tech Portal images are safe as they are hosted by us as are all user attachments and gallery images so it's not the absolute worst it could have been. We've moved a lot of technical posts from other areas into the Tech Portal for just that reason and the offer is always open for anyone with a tech thread to have it (and associated images) moved to that portal. We are currently adding a substantial amount of storage to the new server and once this is in place we will migrate to that server. We are also currently running tests on that server with a number of different photo hosting applications to find one that suits best. Our existing Gallery software (PhotoPost) is old anyway; not https compliant and as it is no longer supported needs to get the flick. We have the option of migrating the existing 22,485 images (80% of which are in the brochure scans) to the new image hosting server or adding them to the native Vbulletin user gallery which became available from v3.8 and which we've never bothered to turn on. **Warning - Logical Discussion Ahead** Taking the emotion out of this for a moment, let's look at some background on why this has happened and why it is likely to continue happening to currently 'free' internet services that use an advertising revenue business model. The world of online advertising (in case you've been living under a rock) is basically owned by Google Ads. They determine how, where and for what ads are placed and use some pretty clever tech to track user activity and send them targeted ads. Likewise (and more importantly) they absolutely control the impression and click rates that are paid to sites hosting Google ads and these rates have been gradually reducing over time and, more importantly, have fallen significantly over the last 6 months. It doesn't matter much to us. We display ads for guests so that they help pay for their own bandwidth use but the revenue from that has reduced substantially in that time despite similar activity levels from guests. Put your self in the shoes of a Photobucket (or Facebook) for a moment. We have 3 TB of outbound data allowance per month in our hosting plan and rarely ever trouble that limit. Typical data costs in the USA are in the order of 8-20 cents per Gb of outbound data dependant on where that data is being delivered - for example, data to the continental US will cost 8 cents per Gb while Australia is 15 cents. As a global service PB is no doubt paying less but they also have little control over where the data is being pulled from so even if we assume they get a global rate for anywhere at 5 cents per Gb, that's an awful lot of money every month without counting the cost of physical storage and facilities to host it. PB also can't generate the same level of ad revenue (impressions) that a Facebook can and that's especially so when 3rd party linking is done as then they get none. The drop in revenues from online advertising will be hurting Facebook (and others too) and they will have to look closely at how they provide their particular service and the business model that supports it. Don't get me wrong. I'm not defending the action taken by PB as it is largely reprehensible but what I am saying is that we are probably heading toward the end of the free ride as the litany of failed on-line 'free' storage providers testifies to. It's going to become a user pays model in the near future and the only thing that should be under discussion is how much is reasonable for any particular service. Perhaps if PB had taken that approach, we wouldn't be where we are now. **end of logical discussion ** We currently provide storage for hosted images but with the same restrictions as PB - in other words they can't be used externally to this site and even then we run about 2.5TB a month of outbound data. We don't charge users for this forum or the wealth of information it contains because we have sponsors who help us meet the running costs and all the actual work that a commercial venture would have to pay for is provided by volunteers who share our passion. We also have a small group of donating members who voluntarily support this community because they want to and for both those groups we are extremely grateful. We will probably be implementing a small annual charge for data storage for those who have more than x storage (x is yet to be determined) but it will only be on a cost recovery basis and most likely (as noted in an earlier post) in 5 Gb increments - enough to store ~3,000 images suitable for web viewing at 200 kb each. Hi resolution images (like the brochure scans) are much larger but they need to be so that the detail can be read but the images we use elsewhere range from 150 kb - 350 kb which is ample. I'm open to thoughts as to: 1. Where 'x' should be set but as a guide the current gallery allows each user 500 Mb with a maximum file size of 500 kb. 2. Whether $10 per annum is considered a reasonable cost for 5 Gb of hosted storage. Cheers Russ
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Being images sized for web based viewing, they average the recommended 200 - 300Kb in size. This means that I have only used 100Mb (0.1Gb) for AFF purposes. $10 per year for 5Gb of hosted storage on AFF servers is a steal as others have stated, and more than enough space than most members here will ever need for posting photos in AFF posts. The only downside I can see, to members who choose to use the AFF web space instead of a 3rd party host like Imgur, Pbase or others is that AFF have the same restrictions in place as Photobucket in 3rd party hosting as Russell has stated. i.e. AFF does not allow you to use the space to host your photos in other blogs or forums other than AFF. So for members here, that may also want to sometimes link their photos on Facebook, a blog or anywhere else on the web ... Then uploading to AFF web space may not be the answer for them. Last edited by GO FURTHER; 09-07-2017 at 11:10 PM. |
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10-07-2017, 12:10 AM | #21 | ||
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This sucks the big one, been using Photobucket for years, so all our build threads and photo posting is now gone FML, love how they can just change the goal posts like that.
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My conspiracy.
Facebook has bought out Photobucket and done this to try and ruin the usability of forums and to get more of this forum/blog type activity on Facebook. |
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Personally I think digitisation of our lives will never be enduring. Think of all the analog photos from years ago that are lost to the ages. Photobuckets will come and go, and so will our lives.
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09-07-2017, 07:49 PM | #24 | ||
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I think $10 per 5 gig is a steal.
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09-07-2017, 09:31 PM | #26 | ||
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For resize in your album hover over the picture and you will see a edit option
click on that then on the top right of the picture you will see size all I do is edit the first number to 800 then Click apply then save done Cheers Dean |
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That edit option functionality not available via phone it seems , even using the web page not the app.... That pic above is 65 mb ... lols. I wonder if there is a resize option using the phone on the webpage ?
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Just by way of comparison, (think my calc's are correct, please correct me if not) I paid up for PB, sounds like I'm lonesome jack here, cost me $525 for min of 502Gb for 1 Year if you want third party rights, that's $0.95/Gb, but who needs 502Gb, I have 1564pics on PB currently, that's 0.5Gb at 320Kb per pic average, 0.12% of my limit on PB, for example if I have posted maybe 1000 pics on FFA, its currently costing me $0.31 a pic/year and getting less the more pics I post
Not happy about the way PB went about it, but am beginning to understand why they had to do something about freeloaders, myself included am waiting to see how things pan out before changing anything. I would rather pay the Forum to post my pics whatever the rate be, not sure about what the limit should be? maybe have a graduated scale? with a minimum payment of $50 per year for 5Gb and $10 per year for every Gb over that? After all that, $10 per Gb does sound fair My brain hurts Thanks for all your efforts Russel.
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Did PB actually turn off your image links and then turn them back on? Do you have a plan in place if PB increase their fees again or drop off the internet altogether?
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The other free deals are likely to start charging anytime soon too. I really think "go furthers" idea is a good one, maybe the AFF should make the approach to PB?
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