Good value second hand cars - COVID times, Falcon/Commodore tax

[smoo]

Originally Posted by janddbone

That was nearly always the case. Fairmont / Fairlane were equivelant roughly and Fairmont Ghia / LTD.

Oh yes make sense, they must’ve done away with it on the AU and B series as I can’t recall seeing a Fairlane with cloth since the NL?
I think all AU Fairlanes were badged Ghia (badges on the door cards that often fall off, lol).

[janddbone]

That BA is absolutely not genuine kays etc.

[fordomatic]

I've been watching B series GT's absolutely plummet in price. Cars that were selling for mid 40's during COVID are now sitting unsold for under 30k. I've seen two very good looking manual BF GT's with under 120km this week, advertised for 25k quick sale.

BF GT is my favourite looking Ford ever made, if they keep going down, it'd be hard for me not to buy one.

[Rallye Sport]

Originally Posted by fordomatic

I've been watching B series GT's absolutely plummet in price. Cars that were selling for mid 40's during COVID are now sitting unsold for under 30k. I've seen two very good looking manual BF GT's with under 120km this week, advertised for 25k quick sale.

BF GT is my favourite looking Ford ever made, if they keep going down, it'd be hard for me not to buy one.

Funny you mention the B series GT's I've been seeing alot of them out lately, both in traffic and on Sunday cruises.
I still keep an eye out for Force 8's, would jump on one if I could find one, even if another toy is a bit unrealistic with my daily FG getting a bit long in the tooth.
Definitely a model I'd go out of my way to own though.

[Sprintey]

Loved those F6 Typhoons of BF vintage when new, cheers for mentioning that, just went and had a look. Agree on it's looks - keep coming back to BF, good memories from having XR6s as work cars then too.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by fordomatic

I've been watching B series GT's absolutely plummet in price. Cars that were selling for mid 40's during COVID are now sitting unsold for under 30k. I've seen two very good looking manual BF GT's with under 120km this week, advertised for 25k quick sale.

BF GT is my favourite looking Ford ever made, if they keep going down, it'd be hard for me not to buy one.

$25k! Jeez that is crazy, any links?

There is an Octane BF GT, manual, 120km for $35k that I thought was a good deal but it appears not!

[fordomatic]

Originally Posted by Polyal

$25k! Jeez that is crazy, any links?

There is an Octane BF GT, manual, 120km for $35k that I thought was a good deal but it appears not!

Both sold real quick, they don’t hang around long. One was a yellow BF GT manual, just got to be quick. The cheap ones are always advertised on Facebook and the FPV pages generally. FG F6 went up on Friday for 32k with only 70,000km, that went quick too.

Also noticed heaps of quick sale cars coming out of WA. Not necessarily just Fords, just nice cars going cheap for a quick no fuss sale.

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by fordomatic

Also noticed heaps of quick sale cars coming out of WA. Not necessarily just Fords, just nice cars going cheap for a quick no fuss sale.

Another one which looks like its priced reasonably/lowish kms
https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...21633537/?Cr=2

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by DJM83

Another one which looks like its priced reasonably/lowish kms
https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...21633537/?Cr=2

I mention this a lot, but what is the point of taking and then using pictures of plastic buttons to accompany the listing? Like wow, this car has window switches. And even then, they are stained with chemical burns.





Considering this is a special/enthusiast car, why wouldn't you highlight the special aspects of the car. In this case, no mention or picture of the build number, no engine bay images at all let alone showing the carbon air intake, no images of the special wheels or brakes, no image of Sprint seat design. As it is, they just presented it like yet another white Falcon fleet car.

[fordomatic]

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[roKWiz]

Not a bad old girl @ $17 000.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...tory_type=post

[Citroënbender]

Mod plated, is it a private import? Too old for the free VIN lookup to work, amusingly a digit is omitted on the mod plate.

[Swordie]

Seems like prices have been dropping for a few months now on second hand cars.

[BENT_8]

Picked up a nice 1 owner 2011 SZ TS RWD petrol in Chill with full dealer history today.
Could have had any number of diesel examples but specifically wanted petrol to keep maintenance costs down and they are hard to find in SZ TS form.
Paid a little bit more than I'd have liked as prices in SA are still up but itsin exceptional condition, no fade at all, trim immaculate, new battery, diff bushes and centre bearing

[Sprintey]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Picked up a nice 1 owner 2011 SZ TS RWD petrol in Chill with full dealer history today.
Could have had any number of diesel examples but specifically wanted petrol to keep maintenance costs down and they are hard to find in SZ TS form.
Paid a little bit more than I'd have liked as prices in SA are still up but itsin exceptional condition, no fade at all, trim immaculate, new battery, diff bushes and centre bearing

Well done, that sounds like a beauty. Let us know how it goes.

Originally Posted by anobserver

Carsales is now showing 231000 vehicles for sale. A healthy return after the significant dip the last vew years.

And i noticed from my watchlist this morning, this unloved gem.

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/rock...dan/1320813077

Nothing special, you may think. But for several years i kept an eye on cars under 100ks priced under 10k. The covid madness pretty much wiped that category, is it coming back to life?

I watch in interest.

I quite like that model of 'nothing special' myself, good memories from when new and the feelings it conveyed


Locally, saw my first modern Ranger (I don't know the exact model prefixes for them) in the mid teens, never seen a Ranger at that level, 2.0 diesel or 3.2 diesel I can't remember... Is this becoming normal or are they still stratosphere prices everywhere else?

[Franco Cozzo]

Commercial vehicles still drug money, particularly Falcon utes or things like Commodore 1 tonner.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Commercial vehicles still drug money, particularly Falcon utes or things like Commodore 1 tonner.

Seems good value. a few good ones around $ydney.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...tory_type=post

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

Seems good value. a few good ones around $ydney.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...tory_type=post

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See, I find it hard to fathom paying $16k for a 13 to 14 year old ute with 190k km on the clock! Not what I would consider good value.

Good for me tho, as the 2013 ute that I paid less than $13k for 5 years ago and now has over 200k km on the clock is likely able to be sold for more than what I paid. Crazy!

[Citroënbender]

You bought well at the time, I’ll be pleased if you do eventually return a profit on tenure of ownership.

High ute prices might propel a few more people into saving the Falcons, instead of scrapping them.

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

You bought well at the time, I’ll be pleased if you do eventually return a profit on tenure of ownership.

High ute prices might propel a few more people into saving the Falcons, instead of scrapping them.

I paid circa 23k for my ute in 2017.
Ive had a saved search on carsales just cause.
7 manual FG turbo utes.
Mine would be the second lowest km wise comparing them. Mines in pretty good condition id say.
I had an offer during the height of the lurgy for 35k, rejected it as had no plan to sell.
I may be forced into/get a 4 door car as a second car this year or next.
I still really have no interest in selling it so ideally ill purchase a 4 door car and keep my ute.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

You bought well at the time, I’ll be pleased if you do eventually return a profit on tenure of ownership.

High ute prices might propel a few more people into saving the Falcons, instead of scrapping them.

Timing was good, that's for sure. Biggest hurdle is the dedicated gas. Not good value as a 2nd hand purchase outside of Vic, but still a reasonable market in Vic.

Offset a little by the fact it's a three seater, which are pretty rare. Not highly sought after tho.

Originally Posted by DJM83

I paid circa 23k for my ute in 2017.
Ive had a saved search on carsales just cause.
7 manual FG turbo utes.
Mine would be the second lowest km wise comparing them. Mines in pretty good condition id say.
I had an offer during the height of the lurgy for 35k, rejected it as had no plan to sell.
I may be forced into/get a 4 door car as a second car this year or next.
I still really have no interest in selling it so ideally ill purchase a 4 door car and keep my ute.

I kinda get the prices for turbos. It's a performance model. Not that I'd pay that much for a turbo. Especially if it was going to be a daily driver. Garage queen would be a different story.

Originally Posted by roKWiz

Good for you. Considering I was quoting Franco and his drug money comment, I suppose this could easily be taken out of context comparing it to.....(insert car here)

To me I wouldn't spend that kind of money on any newer car.

Guess it depends on what you think of as good value. My van cost $1100 incl 12months NSW rego bought only to drive back to Vic at the time.
Wasn't planning on keeping it but turns out glad I did, as its on rotation with the trucks, working for a living.

Paid for itself several time over.

Maybe focus on my first para and not the second. For me, I can't see that value in a near on 14 year old car with that many kms. Maybe not quite in the drug money realm, but still way more than I think they are worth. I provided my car scenario as a way to show how the pricing is unreasonable. There's no way, IMHO, that my ute should be worth more now than when I purchased it. That's all I was trying to convey. Wasn't having a shot at you, RW.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0

See, I find it hard to fathom paying $16k for a 13 to 14 year old ute with 190k km on the clock! Not what I would consider good value.

Good for me tho, as the 2013 ute that I paid less than $13k for 5 years ago and now has over 200k km on the clock is likely able to be sold for more than what I paid. Crazy!

Good for you. Considering I was quoting Franco and his drug money comment, I suppose this could easily be taken out of context comparing it to.....(insert car here)

To me I wouldn't spend that kind of money on any newer car.

Guess it depends on what you think of as good value. My van cost $1100 incl 12months NSW rego bought only to drive back to Vic at the time.
Wasn't planning on keeping it but turns out glad I did, as its on rotation with the trucks, working for a living.

Paid for itself several time over.

[b0son]

Previous gen Raptor has dropped by some margin since the new one came out. Still pricey, but heading in the right direction. Needs a front locker for serious offroading, but if the price drops another few k, it's an aftermarket job worth throwing at it for what is probably one of the most capable offroaders, Wrangler Rubicon aside.

[Swordie]

Interesting story on the prices of the HSV GSTR W1. It shows the market is cooling. Its probably a good to time to buy if you want to invest in one.

https://www.drive.com.au/news/rare-h...00-at-auction/


On the FG Utes I am seeing LPG FGII with trays and 200K+ Km advertised easily over $20K . To me that's allot for a car that has been used as a commercial purposes. The market for FG Turbo Utes used for non commercial purposes and in very good condition is a different story.

What probably affects FG commercial ute prices is cars like the new Ranger. A base Ranger probably cost at least mid $40k+.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Swordie

Interesting story on the prices of the HSV GSTR W1. It shows the market is cooling. Its probably a good to time to buy if you want to invest in one.

https://www.drive.com.au/news/rare-h...00-at-auction/


On the FG Utes I am seeing LPG FGII with trays and 200K+ Km advertised easily over $20K . To me that's allot for a car that has been used as a commercial purposes. The market for FG Turbo Utes used for non commercial purposes and in very good condition is a different story.

What probably affects FG commercial ute prices is cars like the new Ranger. A base Ranger probably cost at least mid $40k+.

This is exactly what I say when I mean 'drug money', they used to be like $32K DA or that brand new.

The only other vehicle comparable to drug money value from when it was new is the 2001-2006 F250/F350, those things with 300,000km+ on the clock change hands for their new values and above.

As far as a tray/tub 2WD ute goes its the best vehicle for the job on the second hand market, something with a 1 tonne payload.

[Citroënbender]

What’s a “Facebook price” range for 2015 SV6 Storm auto (sedan), white, in pretty good unmodified condition? Just curious.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

What’s a “Facebook price” range for 2015 SV6 Storm auto (sedan), white, in pretty good unmodified condition? Just curious.

Drug money whatever that is.

[smoo]

Re Ute values, shows how good they are and how we took them for granted.
Unless one needs ground clearance, 4wd or the extra towing capacity theirs is no comparison to a Thai special with a wheezy but just as thirsty diesel engine.

Peak 1980s. 535i.

[asagaai]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

Drug money whatever that is.

$25.00 for 1 gram of weed heads?

Now apply the maths to the weight of car in kgs converted to grams x $25.00 per gram?

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

What’s a “Facebook price” range for 2015 SV6 Storm auto (sedan), white, in pretty good unmodified condition? Just curious.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...tory_type=post