Help please: What’s wrong getting a BA over an AU?

[Sox]

Has this been posted?

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d.../?Cr=2&sdmvc=1

[XR6T0Y]

That's the one I put up

[zx10]

Originally Posted by Uncle_Ken

Like the look of this one but not the price.
What do you guys think.
UK

Very nice, great choice. I am biased obviously. Mine was more than that, but it is manual, has leather and less ks. So I think if you get it for your price range its a good buy. Thats if its neat and tidy in person.

Good luck with the search.

[Uncle_Ken]

Another one ot contact and its close to me. Horrible photos
UK

[Bushbasher]

Hey Ken , is Dee Why anywhere near you?

1 owner XR6 118k

[Uncle_Ken]

Yes seen this one. I'm going nuts however. I'm getting suck on leather seast and wether its a deal breaker or not. Sen soem nice cars but always wrong State and wrong price ( Grey XR6/8, leather low ks)
UK

[SantoAU]

Leather shouldn't be a deal breaker Ken. You can pick up the interior reasonably cheaply these days

[Uncle_Ken]

Originally Posted by Reklaw007

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BA-FAIRMO...38&_uhb=1,Your Views on this.

Interesting that this got not bids and didn't sell
UK

[Uncle_Ken]

This is a rough summary of the title thread What’s wrong getting a BA over an AU? Just everyone’s response to date in rough posting order:
· BA’s less driver feel, poxy interior, brake shudder, every man and his dog ha s one...
· BA’s Brake shudder is easily resolved with some aftermarket rotors. If you want the positives of owning a B series, throw this thread up in the B series general discussion area. Like any model they have their flaws. I went from A-B series and am very happy with my purchase.
· BA’s have a clunky rear end
· AU - outside looks if not XR looks terrible
* inside is one of disgust
* Not as much power
· BA - as has been said - brakes ) which can be easily fixed)
* ball joints diff bushes.
· Heavy steering in the BA, used to **** me to tears.
* The fly by wire throttle annoyed me too.
· AU low series dash is pretty average, high series is where it's at. B's are just....boring. Too much same same across the whole lot. XT, XR, - where's your difference?
· BA: don't like the electronic accelerator... occasionally taking off is jerky if you're not careful. It's less predictable.
· BA: interior quality, just isn't as good as the AU in my opinion. The AU isn't great, but it's better than the BA.
· BA has more tech in it i.e. the ICC etc - all good in theory but costs more to fix should something go wrong.
· skip BA and go to BF - again more tech, but more refined, better inclusions and still very cheap for what you get. BF's just seem to be a better built car IMHO.
· BA: bursting brake hoses apparently quite a common problem. most cab owners kept a full set of hoses on the shelf .
· BA: one is the spring return on the ignition , the spring goes and the key won't return.
Ford made the ignition switch a sealed item in the steering column . so you can't replace the switch you have to replace the steering column
· BA: drivers seats are far more fragile the mountings crack on the base especially if your of larger proportions like me
· For BA: I don't see why people bring up the fly by wire so much. Going from an EL, to the current BA, I really don't see what the fuss is about.
· AU is embarrassingly slow (I get smashed by hairdresser cars every day) , unrefined and inefficient in comparison.
· BA/F whilst not current, more resembles a car made for this century as far as refinement and handling are concerned.
· The Barra engine is much sweeter than the wheezy lump in the AU
· Its much much harder to find a good AU these days.
· B series are a much heavier car.
· BA/BF disadvantages:
Fly by wire throttle (damn infuriating to me, and a deal breaker)
Heavier
Hard Plastics interior
Unnecessarily heavy steering
IRS
XT/Futura look very, very plain and rather dated
· BA advantages:
More accepted looks, especially interior
Nice looking cars in XR/BFII/Ghia guise
Far more refined ride and seating
ICC is cool
· I do like the look of the b series much better, interior as well, but the Au for me has some things going for it, no throttle by wire for one thing, the Au is a bit simpler which i like, handles like its on rails, and it is a tuff old thing.
· The B series is a good car IMO, however there are a couple of things which I don't like about them.
· The B series is a good car IMO, however there are a couple of things which I don't like about them.
The ICC is a complete and utter tragedy.
The interior is cheap looking.
Fly by wire is terrible.
The styling is bland and hasn't aged well at all.
· The BA drive is decent enough, very quiet, (too) refined, and plenty of go from the whole range.
Handling is pretty decent too, but not so great from the V8's.
· By comparison to the B series, the climate control section is so much better and easier to use. Some don't like the egg and dash of the AU, but I think it's superb.
· AU: I prefer the standard climate control to the fancier electric one of the Fairmonts.
Lovely interior overall.
The throttle response of all AU's is fantastic.
· The drive of all AU's is excellent, quiet, refined enough to still have some mongrel, and enough go from most of them (but not quite as much as every sister B series).
· Handling is exceptional for such a large car, which IMO is due to the still not so heavy mass of more modern cars.
Reliability is also exceptional, ask any taxi driver.
I have also had a great run from all my AU's
UK

[Sox]

Originally Posted by Bushbasher

Hey Ken , is Dee Why anywhere near you?

1 owner XR6 118k

That's such good value for low k's.

I'm tempted to grab it myself, would make a great daily.

[Mr Hardware]

My opinion on leather: If you want leather, don't put a premium on AU Ghia leather, it really is rather ordinary if you ask me. I haven't sampled sportsman/ltd leather, but I imagine it is worth seeking.

Also perhaps I just hate getting in to a hot car in summer and bad memories of vinyl seats in dungers of the past. For me Futura/Fairmont velour is the best material to work with day to day.

As i've said too many times to list, to me the AUIII Futura/Fairmont egas (or factory dual fuel) auto six is the best expense/luxury mix available in the AU range. Maybe an de-winged AU3 XR6 HP with a T2 front would be good also, but not available off the shelf.

[FGII-XR6]

Originally Posted by Mr Hardware

de-winged AU3 XR6 HP .

Wash your mouth out with soap. An AU needs a wing it fix the soft, rounded rear end. the rear looks ugly without a wing but the wing gives it the lift it needs

[Uncle_Ken]

Originally Posted by au3xr6

Wash your mouth out with soap. An AU needs a wing it fix the soft, rounded rear end. the rear looks ugly without a wing but the wing gives it the lift it needs

I don't mind no wing BUT I do like the :
* bobtail
* standard single wing sright across
* single wing tripod
Don't like the 2 layer rear wings.
I have a slop in the driveway and need a wing to see the end of the car (or get a reverse camera)
UK

[Sox]

Originally Posted by Uncle_Ken

I don't mind no wing BUT I do like the :
* bobtail
* standard single wing sright across
* single wing tripod
Don't like the 2 layer rear wings.
I have a slop in the driveway and need a wing to see the end of the car (or get a reverse camera)
UK

Strange place to do a slop mate...

[Uncle_Ken]

Originally Posted by Sox

Strange place to do a slop mate...

and its step to. LOL

[Uncle_Ken]

Originally Posted by Uncle_Ken

and its step to. LOL

Just in case I typed slop instead of slope and step instead of steep.
Been looking and thinking this weekend and at the moment I'm looking at XR6/8's as first choice haveing looked at hte comments posted by forum members
UK

[Uncle_Ken]

Originally Posted by Uncle_Ken

and its step to. LOL

Just in case I typed slop instead of slope and step instead of steep.
Been looking and thinking this weekend and at the moment I'm looking at XR6/8's as first choice haveing looked at hte comments posted by forum members. In the meaning time I'm driving (sorry borrowing) my sons AU

UK

[FGII-XR6]

is that a genuine C2R or a mock up?

[Uncle_Ken]

Originally Posted by au3xr6

is that a genuine C2R or a mock up?

See the builf thread by JC mock up, painted by JC.

[FGII-XR6]

Defiantly looks the part

Originally Posted by Uncle_Ken

See the builf thread by JC mock up, painted by JC.

[JC]

Originally Posted by au3xr6

Defiantly looks the part

Genuine grille, 'glass bar.

[Uncle_Ken]

Sorry JC
JC coming back to the AU section? I'm not posting 2 many cars I'm looking at in case you are buying
UK

[Uncle_Ken]

Looking at a 2002 Series 3 Ford Falcon XR8 220 with Tickford options tomorrow in my price range.
No one is allowed to buy an XR Sat in NSW!!! Fingers crossed.

UK

[FGII-XR6]

good luck UK pics ASAP

[Uncle_Ken]

1 more sleep. Pick up tomorrow, looks like I'm back in the AU forums
The new car..(of the gumtree ad)

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More details to come later..
Uk

[SantoAU]

niiiiice!

[Sox]

Lovely machine.

Is it a stick or slushy?

[Mr Hardware]

Originally Posted by Sox

Lovely machine.

Is it a stick or slushy?

I'm gonna deduce it's an auto given the big 'P' on the cluster

[Uncle_Ken]

Originally Posted by Mr Hardware

I'm gonna deduce it's an auto given the big 'P' on the cluster

Smart lad go to the top of the class. Yes its an auto as I'll be driving in the burbs in peak hour, no gears changes for me.

UK

[XR6TCraig]

Nice buy! I have always had a soft spot for the AU3 XR8 and yours looks like it has been well looked after and has plenty of life left in it.

I still can't believe that this one posted on the first page by au3xr6 has not yet sold! http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/111141629...84.m1423.l2649

Im tempted to get myself to Orange! LOL