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Well today is the day. The last falcon wagon ever is being born.
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Sad ending for a brilliant car.
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This week??? I thought they stopped production at the end of June??
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Here's hoping they'll bring it back in the future.
Shame to end such a car, nothing else comes close, and probobly wont.
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The Falcon wagon is a good work horses. Thats it. Private buyers want something with a bit of flare and style. Such a beast hasn't existed since the 60's IMHO. Ford have neglected the wagon since AU with horrid styling and a suspension design by Cobb and Co. The current crop just want to make me puke. As has been said - good riddance.
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Falcon Wagon was neglected long before AU, its just that the neglect was so obvious when AU was released. By BA, it was a sad joke. In 2010 it was an outright embarrassment. Fairlane neglect set in at the time of BA. Ford had spent all their money on styling and mechanical upgrades that there was no money left for the LWB models. This is a shame. The Fords were king of luxo barge at one time. Territory? We'll they've dropped the ball on that one haven't they? Long overdue for a major styling update. Sales are on the slide. Correct me if I'm wrong but that POS Captiva is either outselling it, or getting close.
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I like both. And so does most private buyers. Utilitarian function does doesn't cut it on its own in todays market. Just take a look at Commodore Sportswagon. They look terrific, not as practical, but outsell the Falcon Wagon 100 to 1 on a rainy Sunday. Falcon Wagon is a work horse favoured only by the Yellow TAXI co and Telstra. (edit - and Telstra only started buying Falcons because Holden gave their wagon the ar$e).
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Ford didnt have to do much to the BA/F wagon to make it look nice and sell a few to private buyers, and I'm not talking about silly turbo engine options either.
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Point is, why spend $30k on a "new" Falcon Wagon when theres a dude up the road selling a EB Wagon for $800 (and he throws in a slab).
Its basically the same car. I can still fit in with the new car crowd now can't I? :-)
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sorry, up until recently i was a wagon owner (bf2). have had nearly every model since ef. i found them a great car. captiva's and territories don't have the luggage capacity. the commo barely has more room than a sedan. some of us just want a good honest car that can carry all the family, esp when holidaying. i will admit though, i have never bought new. wagons are bought by people who need them. end of. they are built to 'function'. continually comparing ford to holden is rather amusing too. this is australia. anything with a holden badge will sell well. most will notice that when the sportwagon came on the scene, the overall commodore sales didn't really improve much, if at all. they simply stole sedan sales. Quote:
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Ford produced the only ligitimate wagon, based on the LWB floor pan, the Holden is a "Hatch" based on the sedan floor pan.... Its functionality as a true wagon is extremely limited. Ford still produce wagons of sorts, the Territory and Mondeo. The market has shifted to sedans with big boots or "hatches"... the "wagon" is dead.
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the wagon argument has been done to death. not many people see it from ford's point of view. not many realise that the company's money tree has long died and they have to streamline the products. building 'special' cars because a handfull of forum members want to win the arguments down the pub just doesn't cut it anymore. wagon, lwb, v8 in all models, etc etc. its just not viable. |
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(better tell those Euro brands that they are selling hatches too!!) The FG shape would've made a great "hatch / wagon" IMO but I believe Ford couldn't justify the cost of building it, which is a shame. RIP Aussie Ford Wagon you became old fashioned and died unloved.
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ffo racing i learnt 6 months ago that you do not sledge the wagon.
it has many fans that now cant get a car to suit there needs. |
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Not bagging the wagon but is it a shame that they never updated it with the FG.
It may become one of those niche vehicles that is sought after in the second hand market. (The Territory is different class of vehicle) I'm curious which model people think was the best looking ? (It always come down to your own taste but I reckon the XP)
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I am certain man y feel the same and buy the sports wagon |
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Tomorrow 29.09.10 at about 8am the last Falcon wagon ever rolls of the end of the production line. It was delayed due to production issues and the fact that the plant was shut down for 2 days last week and 1 day this week. It is a stocky white XT wagon and the lucky owner is Telstra (like 99% of all white falcon wagons)
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would have been nice if they made the last wagon a full bf 2 ghia.
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