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Nobody has ever claimed that any of the vaccines are 100% safe and the tiny percentage of those with serious side effects is well documented and has been since the early trials.
My objection was to your crowing about the chickens coming home to roost because (1) there is nothing new in the data and the 'hold' on the J&J vaccine was based on 6 cases of blood clotting; (2) it's a vaccine that was largely never approved for use outside the USA; (3) the ban on J&J was lifted after a thorough review so your video is out of date. In total, for J&J, there have been 15 reported cases of TTS/CVST out of 6.8 million doses and 5 confirmed deaths.
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It is so plainly simple that vaccination works. Yep there were some side effects, 11.8 Billion doses given, yeah you are going to find a few. Well worth the result we have.
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Got the 4th Booster last Tuesday - pfizer again, no side effects except fora slightly sore injection site for a couple of days. Unlike the first three this one I felt go in, but I think that was more to do with practitioner technique than the serum.
Since it was administered by a GP (not our usual guy) I asked the question about a 5th shot before we go OS, hoping for a medical opinion - got a bureaucratic response that "the jury is out on that" meaning, I think "not yet recommended by the TGA or the other Alphabet Committee that adjudicates on these matters". I'll see if I can winkle a medical opinion when we see our ususal GP. Will report if I get anything useful. Cheers
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How long ago did you have your 3rd?
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![]() Oh, and if I tried them and didn't like them, I can always take them off with no lasting impact except for my hip pocket.
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It actually happened and is currently occurring, and the numbers have been sugar-coated from the get-go. |
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https://www.news.com.au/world/corona...8b04a671a0f75b The basic premise is that people who have suffered myocarditis as a side effect of the job will likely have a very serious to even death response to being infected with covid. Reason being is that if they have that kind of reaction to the small immune response caused by the introduction of the vaccine, then being infected by an unchecked and ever increasing and unmanageable viral load from covid will likely kill the person. Quote:
Anti-vax nut job told me one of the listed bad side effects of the jab for women was an extremely heavy, never experienced before, period for at least the first and sometimes the second menstrual cycle after getting vaccinated. Talking to our friend the other day she said her daughter, who has as covid 3 times, after each recovery her first and second period after was extremely heavy as compared to normal. This occurred with 2 other of her friends as well. Just interesting to note that side effects of the vaccine appear to be the same of varying degrees to actual occurrences of symptoms during and when recovering from an actual covid infection. One day I might sit down and see what else might be similar on both sides. |
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It is a 4 month time frame from 3rd jab to the 4th jab and you have to be over 65 to be eligible to get this booster. I get my 4th jab next Thursday.
There is talk of lowing the age to 50 for 4th booster jab but when who knows! Quote:
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Australia / New Zealand
NSW records 8,891 cases in the current period for a 10-day average growth rate of 0.9928 (1.0296) and the actual line remains above the predictive trend. ![]() VIC records 8,744 cases in the current period for a 10 day average growth of 0.9906 (0.9944) while the actual line is below the predictive trend. ![]() Here is the predictive trend graph for four States based on cases since Omicron was identified which, for our purposes, will be taken as December 1st. ![]() New Zealand data goes back to January 15th and the actual line remains below the predictive trend line. ![]()
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT May 7th 2022.
44,951 new cases for Australia and 41 deaths so the CMR is 0.121%. NZ recorded 6,838 cases and 11 deaths for a CMR of 0.082% (-). The UK didn’t report for a CMR of 0.798% (-). 81,533 new cases in the USA yesterday and 391 deaths sees CMR at 1.226% (ê). Other notable points: (weekend reporting) Poland passes 6M cases; The UAE passes 900k cases; Taiwan (46,536) ...recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period while none drop below.
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The whole travel situation with Covid is an absolute laugh.
Have already been overseas twice since borders opened and got 2 more trips planned in the next few months. Really, the whole exercise of checking documents, getting international certificates, tests, immunisations etc is a fools sense of security. While I have been totally honest in all my travel documentation the overwhelming checks and balances needed to ensure 100% legitimacy is impossible to achieve. All my documents were checked with a passing glance, after leaving the airport I was NEVER asked for ID to cross reference any paperwork I had. In fact, on several occasions I showed my 7 year old daughters information by accident instead of mine and I was ushered past the check points. My last locally supervised rapid test before flying was done without any ID checks. Just my observations. As I said I did everything 100% above board however talking with others that have recently travelled there were many stories of dodgy or fabricated documentation. My first two trips were to Philippines, granted they may be somewhat lax in their procedures. Next trip is to Singapore in late May or early June then going to Canada in July. See how they do things, being more advanced.
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Global 08/5/22 (figures up to 07/05/22)
During the last 14 days, global CMR's have mostly been dropping with the global average now at 1.214% compared to 1.226% in the previous period and 2.170% a year ago today. Case numbers decrease slightly with 10.57M in this period compared to 10.73M in the previous period with 33,508 deaths in the last 14 days for a higher CMR of 0.430% on an unadjusted basis. It should be noted that a number of countries (mostly in Africa) haven’t reported in this period. Overall the increase in cases numbers was 1.5% and the variance in the number of deaths only 0.53%. Countries (with >100k cases) that were above 5% growth rate are headed by Taiwan (+83.7%); China (+9.2%); New Zealand (+10.7%); Australia (+9.0%); Luxembourg (+7.1%); Réunion (+6.0%); Japan (5.6%) and Finland (5.0%). Very few countries saw their mortalities increase by much with New Zealand (+22.4%); Finland (+12.3%);Australia (+6.8%); Iceland (+5.9%); Taiwan (+5.6%) and South Korea (+5.4%) the only significant growth amongst countries with >100k cases.
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Australia / New Zealand
NSW records 7,793 cases in the current period for a 10-day average growth rate of 0.9940 (0.9928) and the actual line remains above the predictive trend. ![]() VIC records 10,031 cases in the current period for a 10 day average growth of 0.9990 (0.9906) while the actual line is about level with the predictive trend. ![]() Here is the predictive trend graph for four States based on cases since Omicron was identified which, for our purposes, will be taken as December 1st. ![]() New Zealand data goes back to January 15th and the actual line remains below the predictive trend line. ![]()
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT May 8th 2022.
35,289 new cases for Australia and 18 deaths so the CMR is 0.120%(ê). NZ recorded 5,728 cases and 2 deaths for a CMR of 0.082% (-). The UK didn’t report for a CMR of 0.798% (-). 14,008 new cases in the USA yesterday and 201 deaths sees CMR at 1.226% (-). Other notable points: (weekend reporting) Global cases pass 517M; Poland passes 6M cases; The UAE passes 900k cases; No countries...recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period while Japan drops below.
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NSW records 10,321 cases in the current period for a 10-day average growth rate of 1.0281 (0.9940) and the actual line remains above the predictive trend. ![]() VIC records 12,722 cases in the current period for a 10 day average growth of 1.0441 (0.9990) while the actual line is above the predictive trend. ![]() Here is the predictive trend graph for four States based on cases since Omicron was identified which, for our purposes, will be taken as December 1st. Note that WA set a new daily case high (10,394) yesterday and total deaths in Australia pass 7,500. ![]() New Zealand data goes back to January 15th and the actual line remains below the predictive trend line. ![]()
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I've has chest pain come and go since the the first Pfzier vaccination. It has eased now but used to drop me for about 10 seconds a day with extreme pain, unable to move and then suddenly fine. I've had 3 shots, will get the fourth. I'm extremely fit, my resting heart rate is 42.
I also had a stroke, Yellow Fever vaccination was the contributing factor. 1:400,000 chance of having a stroke for that vaccine. Even after all this, i'm still pro vax. Why? Because i understand the government can't care about 1%, if you don't understand that mentality then there is no saving you. I wont degrade your right to choose what goes in your body though, if you dont wan't it, I couldn't care less.
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT May 9th 2022.
37,775 new cases for Australia and 3 deaths so the CMR is 0.120% (-). NZ recorded 6,471 cases and 2 deaths for a CMR of 0.081% (ê). The UK reported 26,253 cases and 212 deaths over 3 days for a CMR of 0.797% (ê). 57,656 new cases in the USA yesterday and 101 deaths sees CMR at 1.225% (ê). Other notable points: (weekend reporting) North America passes 99M cases; Asia passes 149M cases; Europe passes 193M cases; No countries...recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period while Luxembourg drops below.
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My PCR test done at the airport in March was lightening fast - test results in my inbox within 30 minutes. RAT done in April for travel at my local place had a 4hr turn around. $79 will get you the PCR and travel paperwork.
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Came to Vic to see my sister that has cancer.
4 days later positive...just going from residence in Grovedale to Geelong Hospital 6 times. Gotta love Victoria...the gift that keeps giving. However must report this is nothing to worry about so far, a headache,slight cough..night sweat on 2nd day... Piece of cake with three vaccinations...3 days to go and centrelink are giving me $750 for my troubles...LOL
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NSW records 12,265 cases in the current period for a 10-day average growth rate of 1.0675 (1.0281) and the actual line remains above the predictive trend. ![]() VIC records 13,973 cases in the current period for a 10 day average growth of 1.0694 (1.0441) while the actual line is above the predictive trend. ![]() Here is the predictive trend graph for four States based on cases since Omicron was identified which, for our purposes, will be taken as December 1st. Note that WA set a new daily case high (12,390) yesterday. ![]() New Zealand data goes back to January 15th and the actual line remains below the predictive trend line. Total cases also pass the 1M mark. While we don’t graph it, weekly cases are down 3,225 compared to last week. ![]() As it was the end of our week yesterday, here are the weekly case numbers with NSW having 8,998 more cases then Victoria last week while Victoria recorded 6,287 more cases than the previous week; NSW recorded 3,886 more, Queensland 8,727 more; WA 18,512 more and SA 2,730 less. The week totalled 311,565 cases or 12.1% more than last week and that’s the highest it’s been for four weeks. ![]()
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT May 10th 2022.
47,274 new cases for Australia and 43 deaths so the CMR is 0.119% (ê). NZ recorded 9,257 cases and 14 deaths for a CMR of 0.082% (é). The UK reported 4,341 cases and no deaths for a CMR of 0.797% (-). 93,443 new cases in the USA yesterday and 199 deaths sees CMR at 1.224% (ê). Other notable points: Global cases pass 518M; France passes 29M cases; South America passes 57M cases; Africa passes 12M cases; Taiwan (50,828)...recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and none drop below.
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NSW records 12,600 cases in the current period for a 10-day average growth rate of 1.0872 (1.0675) and the actual line remains above the predictive trend. ![]() VIC records 14,333 cases in the current period for a 10 day average growth of 1.0661 (1.0694) while the actual line is above the predictive trend. ![]() Here is the predictive trend graph for four States based on cases since Omicron was identified which, for our purposes, will be taken as December 1st. Note that WA set a new daily case high (17,033) yesterday. ![]() New Zealand data goes back to January 15th and the actual line remains below the predictive trend line. Total cases pass the 1M mark. ![]()
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT May 11th 2022.
57,310 new cases for Australia and 57 deaths so the CMR is 0.119% (-). NZ recorded 8,047 cases and 29 deaths for a CMR of 0.084% (é). The UK reported 529 cases and no deaths for a CMR of 0.797% (-). 147,078 new cases in the USA yesterday and 713 deaths sees CMR at 1.223% (ê). Other notable points: Global cases pass 519M; Taiwan (57,216)...recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and none drop below.
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The current fortnight of UK data for cases and elapsed mortalities has finished.
There were 353,805 (-56%) cases in the period to 26/4 and a lower 2,280 deaths between 27/4-11/5 for a CMR of 0.644 which is again higher than that of the previous period (0.529%) and higher than what it has been for some months. Thus, in the 285 days since 'freedom day' they have totalled 16,513,258 cases and 46,841 deaths for an overall CMR of 0.284% which is above the 0.276% at day 270. Here it is graphed - note that the base column at the end is the 2 week period prior to freedom day. ![]()
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT May 12th 2022.
57,314 new cases for Australia and 52 deaths so the CMR is 0.119% (-). NZ recorded 9,484 cases and 8 deaths for a CMR of 0.084% (-). The UK reported 14,458 cases and 284 deaths for a CMR of 0.797% (-). 92,011 new cases in the USA yesterday and 281 deaths sees CMR at 1.222% (ê). Other notable points: The USA passes 84M cases; The Falkland Islands (734); and Taiwan (65,446) ...recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. Japan moves above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and no countries drop below.
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