Covid 19 -

[superyob]

You on the crapper again FC???

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by superyob

You on the crapper again FC???

Lunch, but my best work happens on the crapper

Unfortunately in an effort to live past 35 I have resorted to this



I haven't completed my life's work of baiting people into pointless arguments on the internet yet and as such have to resort to such drastic measures.

Unfortunately you may have to put up with me for a couple of years longer, unless I get hit by the bus walking to Crown Casino when it reopens.

Or I am satisfied with my work and have decided to pass away from (un)natural causes by resuming my preferred diet of carbohydrates consisting of beer, pasta and bread

Or COVID-19 gets me.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

unless I get hit by the bus walking to Crown Casino when it reopens.
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Any idea what day that maybe, I need to organize the bus.

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

Any idea what day that maybe, I need to organize the bus.

You gunna sell Tickets on the Bus..???

if so I'll take One..

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by hayseed

You gunna sell Tickets on the Bus..???

if so I'll take One..

The more tickets the bigger the bus.

[burnz]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

Any idea what day that maybe, I need to organize the bus.

that wouldn't be a great wall bus??

[guzzis3]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Lunch, but my best work happens on the crapper

Unfortunately in an effort to live past 35 I have resorted to this

35 what ? Stone ?

A lot of people have seen the problems with globalisation for decades. The fundamental problem is:

Politicians only want your vote and your money.

Literally 9/10 votes don't matter.

The people who determine who gets into government, swing voters in marginal seats, don't think about politics until it directly affects them. They tune in 1 week before the election, check who is offering the biggest barrel of pork and vote accordingly.

That is why we are f'd...and typing stuff on the internet won't change a damn thing.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by prydey

I feel this outlook ignores the export market. Australia has much more to lose if China boycott australia rather than the other way around.

Would you rather take the economic hit while we establish new markets or have your children live under the influence of the CCP?

They own some of our critical infrastructure:

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-...19-grjqzx.html

https://www.smh.com.au/business/chin...16-glp7cg.html

They own some of our farms

https://www.farmweekly.com.au/story/...-aussie-farms/

They actively interfere with our companies who don't toe the line in the CCP's interest:

https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...07-p4zk0h.html

They intervene when our Government tries to sign free trade agreements against CCP's interests:

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...24-p50bj5.html

They're constantly trying to undermine Australia's sovereignty by influencing our politics:

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...o-chief-claims

They hold significant influence in our universities:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-...s-say/11425276

China is not our friend, they're our sugar daddy and we're taking it in the rear for less than the going rate.

Sent from my Nokia 3315 on the crapper

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Would you rather take the economic hit while we establish new markets or have your children live under the influence of the CCP?

They own some of our critical infrastructure:

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-...19-grjqzx.html

https://www.smh.com.au/business/chin...16-glp7cg.html

They own some of our farms

https://www.farmweekly.com.au/story/...-aussie-farms/

They actively interfere with our companies who don't toe the line in the CCP's interest:

https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...07-p4zk0h.html

They intervene when our Government tries to sign free trade agreements against CCP's interests:

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...24-p50bj5.html

They're constantly trying to undermine Australia's sovereignty by influencing our politics:

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...o-chief-claims

They hold significant influence in our universities:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-...s-say/11425276

China is not our friend, they're our sugar daddy and we're taking it in the rear for less than the going rate.

Sent from my Nokia 3315 on the crapper

Before all the union members and labour voters get up in arms just fact check other countries regarding foreign investment. FI is OK, but we should be mindful of the criticality of it.

Again, please let the farmer who got offered good money for his investment who he should and shouldn't sell it too.

I am all for a mindset shift, but everyone needs to be onboard and as above you will find this will cause more harm than good.

Ill quote myself here (Roddy will love it), but Australia is the Tassie of the world and we seem to think we have the money and budget to live like a larger nation. So unless everyone wants to go Fiji style then we need exports to the highest bidder.

[prydey]

You have your house on the market. A Chinese couple agree to buy it for the sale price. An Australian couple want to haggle you down to about half its value. Which one would you sell to?

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by prydey

You have your house on the market. A Chinese couple agree to buy it for the sale price. An Australian couple want to haggle you down to about half its value. Which one would you sell to?

Are the Chinese couple permanent residents in Australia ? or are they foreign investors. Myself I don't worship money.

[futura]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

Are the Chinese couple permanent residents in Australia ? or are they foreign investors. Myself I don't worship money.

They are just Chinese

[MITCHAY]

Covid 19 free here now. Well no active confirmed cases

Two adults and children can now visit other households and non-essential shopping will be allowed. Though our rules were fairly soft in comparison to other places and not policed to the same extent. I'm not sure they handed out that many fines.

They are continuing to build a temporary 50 bed ED across the road from the hospital in preparation for a second wave.

[MITCHAY]

I'm glad to see that we're backing in Taiwan as an observer state for WHO, they have done a good job. No doubt China will crack the ****s about that and there is some form of punishment coming for us.

I'm pretty disappointed to see us Aussies putting our neck out for what should be common sense and not a lot of support for it.

We alone won't make any difference but potentially take a huge hit. Where the **** is everyone else?

The investigation doesn't have to begin tomorrow, next week, or even next month but it has to happen.

We need to know the where, the why and the how to try and mitigate this cluster**** the whole world has found itself in. That's beneficial to even China.

I know that from US side it is a lot more political than here but excepting a few loose MPs and senators the only official communication that matters is from the PM and Foreign Minister and it has been mostly objective.

[PooDog]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

I'm glad to see that we're backing in Taiwan as an observer state for WHO, they have done a good job. No doubt China will crack the ****s about that and there is some form of punishment coming for us.

I'm pretty disappointed to see us Aussies putting our neck out for what should be common sense and not a lot of support for it.

We alone won't make any difference but potentially take a huge hit. Where the **** is everyone else?

The investigation doesn't have to begin tomorrow, next week, or even next month but it has to happen.

We need to know the where, the why and the how to try and mitigate this cluster**** the whole world has found itself in. That's beneficial to even China.

I know that from US side it is a lot more political than here but excepting a few loose MPs and senators the only official communication that matters is from the PM and Foreign Minister and it has been mostly objective.

Our foreign affairs minister and deputy PM Winston Peters came out yesterday saying they will back the enquiry

[MITCHAY]

Looks like we finally have the EU on board for backing an inquiry. I used to think that G8 at least would be automatic. Bit by bit we are getting there.

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Looks like we finally have the EU on board for backing an inquiry. I used to think that G8 at least would be automatic. Bit by bit we are getting there.

The EU has gone about it the right way. They are hurting as much as anyone but their response has been measured and calculated. They have learnt from the past. If the investigation is EU led then I think it'll get up. If it is US (or even AU) led, no chance.

[falcon_bandit]

"Prime Minister Scott Morrison says more Australians need to download the COVIDSafe app if they want an early mark on easing restrictions"

Wtf? Pushing a gov phone app before they let people go back to work and pay their bills. Jump!! How high??

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by falcon_bandit

"Prime Minister Scott Morrison says more Australians need to download the COVIDSafe app if they want an early mark on easing restrictions"

Wtf? Pushing a gov phone app before they let people go back to work and pay their bills. Jump!! How high??

The government won't reach its intended target and this will provide the perfect opportunity for the ALP to play wedge politics. ScoMo isn't that smart if wants to hold the country to ransom based on the number of people who download the app.

[falcon_bandit]

Originally Posted by Romulus

The government won't reach its intended target and this will provide the perfect opportunity for the ALP to play wedge politics. ScoMo isn't that smart if wants to hold the country to ransom based on the number of people who download the app.

The world is a twisted mess. I'm always looking for a meaning to life, and from what I've gathered from the history books up until now....is were are here to be raped for what we are worth. I understand tin foil hats are not trendy, but they look much nicer than a blindfold

[superyob]

Originally Posted by falcon_bandit

The world is a twisted mess. I'm always looking for a meaning to life, and from what I've gathered from the history books up until now....is were are here to be raped for what we are worth. I understand tin foil hats are not trendy, but they look much nicer than a blindfold

100% agree...

[russellw]

Australia had 14 new cases yesterday and 2 deaths so the CMR rose to 1.374% but the active cases dropped to 13.7%.

NZ had 3 new cases but no deaths so the CMR dropped to 1.285% and the active cases to 14.6%.

The UK had under 6,000 new cases but over 700 deaths although the CMR did drop to 15.503% while the active cases remained steady at 84%.

The USA was over 30,000 new cases and the CMR rose to 5.831% while the active case percentage dropped slightly to 80.3%.

The graphs for today are the 3 new-case graphs. We don't want to see any of these trending upwards .

Both Australia and New Zealand are starting to trend upward again after a period of steady decline although the numbers are still small.



The UK is probably still trending upwards but Spain, Italy and Germany all look to be gradually improving.



Finally, the USA has started to climb the last week or so after having had a period fo steady decline.

[CoupeKing]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5718030/

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5718030/

Interesting. CQ for cancer treatment? What else can it be used for?

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by Romulus

Interesting. CQ for cancer treatment? What else can it be used for?

I'm not sure.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...ves-1-patient/

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

I'm not sure.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...ves-1-patient/

Those opposed to the usage of CQ with ZPac and zinc site trials in hospitals, where patients are on ventilators or under intubation which is too late for this treatment to work. It's like administering cough medicine or a decongestant to deal with pneumonia - it'll never work.

[Franco Cozzo]

While the government has been at pains to address privacy concerns about the COVIDSafe app, cybersecurity analysts believe the data could be mined for other uses. By Karen Middleton.
How the COVIDSafe data could be used


A user looks at the new COVIDSafe app, released by the federal government last Sunday evening.CREDIT: PA





The technology behind the Australian government’s new COVIDSafe tracing app could create a comprehensive social contacts map of the nation – a potentially valuable dataset to foreign governments and Australian law enforcement.

That’s the view of one analyst, Professor Dali Kaafar, executive director of the Optus Macquarie University Cyber Security Hub, who has studied the app’s functions and the source code of the Singaporean version, which he says the Australian app very closely matches.

He argues that if the entire dataset were to become centrally located and accessible, it would likely be of great interest to governments and other organisations.

Under current Australian law, only state and territory health officers tracing coronavirus contacts will have access to the data COVIDSafe collects and, even then, only parts of it, under very strict conditions.

But Kaafar says that if the security provisions changed, the COVIDSafe data could be crossmatched with other personal data, including open-source information about personal activities posted on social media sites.

That could provide a very accurate and revealing portrait of Australians’ movements, who they spend time with, precisely when and ultimately even where.

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/...15883416009764

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

The technology behind the Australian government’s new COVIDSafe tracing app could create a comprehensive social contacts map of the nation – a potentially valuable dataset to foreign governments and Australian law enforcement.

That’s the view of one analyst, Professor Dali Kaafar, executive director of the Optus Macquarie University Cyber Security Hub, who has studied the app’s functions and the source code of the Singaporean version, which he says the Australian app very closely matches.

He argues that if the entire dataset were to become centrally located and accessible, it would likely be of great interest to governments and other organisations.

Under current Australian law, only state and territory health officers tracing coronavirus contacts will have access to the data COVIDSafe collects and, even then, only parts of it, under very strict conditions.

But Kaafar says that if the security provisions changed, the COVIDSafe data could be crossmatched with other personal data, including open-source information about personal activities posted on social media sites.

That could provide a very accurate and revealing portrait of Australians’ movements, who they spend time with, precisely when and ultimately even where.

Yep, all I can see is a lot of if's, could's, would's, potentially, etc, etc, blah, blah. Total load of crap. A lot of possibilities and not much reality, other than the paragraph in red.

Anyone using an Apple or Google based Smartphone, and is concerned about your privacy, here's a hint. Get yourself one of THESE phones! Almost all the apps you've downloaded onto your phone is in breach of your "privacy". Funny thing is - you agreed to, and gave them permission to access your "privacy". Your location, messages, photos, call history, social media activities, etc, etc, etc. And government security and law agencies have access to it all, because you agreed to let them access it. Yet you won't download the CovidSafe app because you're concerned about your "privacy"?? CovidSafe app is the least of your concerns when it comes to your "privacy".

All you are doing is helping to prolong this s***ty situation. Restrictions drag on, economic impacts dragging on, health and wellbeing of the population continues to fall further and further the longer this s**t continues. With CovidSafe, knowing when and where transmission is occurring, by locating those who are infected with the virus, and being able to manage outbreaks will help us with getting back to somewhat of a 'normal' life again. The app is to manage this virus. Not to manage or spy on you.

And before anyone thinks I am a flag waver, far from it. Very far from it. I just want to do whatever it takes to get back to life as it was before this s**t was unleashed on us. If it means having to download an app that stores phone numbers of people who I've been closer than 1.5M to, and spent 15min or more with them, on my phone only, then so f**cking be it.

You can always turn Bluetooth off.

Oh, and for anyone interested, here's Professor Dali Kaafar, and his buddy Dr Hassan Asghar's actual Macquarie University report dated 07/04/2020.

https://lighthouse.mq.edu.au/article...ivacy-concerns

[Romulus]

Not such good news for the economy, and the government is entirely to blame for this.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-...01-p54oue.html

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Romulus

Not such good news for the economy, and the government is entirely to blame for this.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-...01-p54oue.html

To quote a great man - the economies ****ed, and sudos

My favorite man on the internet, the lovely Alex Jones has caused some trouble again over threatening to feed his neighbors to his children

https://twitter.com/RealKellyJones/s...057947138?s=19