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https://www.health.gov.au/health-ale...close-contacts Interestingly, WA has a different definition: https://www.healthywa.wa.gov.au/Arti...19-definitions So much for nationalised rules. ![]()
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT February 1st 2022.
38,199 new cases for Australia and 75 deaths so the CMR is 0.149%. NZ recorded 204 cases and 0 deaths for a CMR of 0.319%. The UK recorded 112,452 cases yesterday and 92,368 the day before for a CMR of 0.895%. There was a major adjustment for data from May 2021 after it was identified cases were misreported. This added about 750k cases to the UK total since the pandemic began and reduced the overall CMR by a fair bit. 360,121 new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,865 deaths sees CMR at 1.194%. Other notable points: Global cases pass 381M; Global deaths pass 5.7M, the last 50k in 5 days; Europe passes 128M cases; Asia passes 101M cases; UK passes 17M cases although 750k of those were the adjustment; Italy passes 11M cases; Spain oases 10M cases; USA passes 76M cases; Kiribati (169); Bhutan (312); Solomon Islands (303); Barbados (786); El Salvador (954); Egypt (2,291) – the 8th consecutive day; Oman (2,828) – the previous high (2,529) on 21/6/21; Azerbaijan (5,223): Bahrain (8,173); Palestine (8,616); Jordan (17,781); South Korea (18,333); Georgia (24,201); Romania (40,018); Réunion (45,474); Turkey (102,601); and Russia (125,836) – the 12th consecutive day ... all recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. Indonesia moves above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and Cabo Verde drops below.
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Imagine if the feds were running the entire show. What a disaster that would have been.
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I don't think anyone would have ever thought the constitution allowed state politicians to turn Australia into 8 separate mini countries. I think think anyone would have thought the politicians would ever have considered it, let alone enacted it. Quote:
Like how after nearly 2 years my family still can't properly mourn Mum's passing or celebrate her life with friends because my poor sister is locked in WA while the rest of us can travel free? Not that it would matter because even though we are spending nearly $1000 on entertainment that state does not allow dancing in public venues. What's the use of paying for that Elvis impersonator that Mum wished us to have when no one can get up and dance to the music she loved? But if we held it here in Qld, no problems... Or that here in Queensland we have to wear a mask while seated watching a movie, but other states don't? Or that certain states mandated masks to be worn when driving alone in the car, when others didn't? Or the states that mandated that maks must be worn while checking your letter box, but not when mowing the lawns, while others didn't? Anyone read how Chairman Dan wants to mandate compulsory boosters to be considered "fully vaccinated". Claimed it was discussed and approved by a group containing Brett Sutton... But only for Brett Sutton, Victorian CHO, to come out and say "no I wasn't consulted nor ever asked the question"... Yeah... How lucky we are with the power hungry clowns we have now. ![]() Last edited by arm79; 02-02-2022 at 03:45 PM. |
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Awww shucks...kids are dying in the streets, it's all Rupert Murdocks fault. by extension.... ![]()
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Sorry, too many links, too long a post...but could probably find a counter argument for all your points....if it was on topic.
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![]() Ironically, that was one area where they actually did do a good job in when they finally built Howard springs. The people that ran it cost a lot of money though from what I hear.
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Additionally to this it was agreed that the states and territories would foot the bill for their residents and then the rest was split pro rata amongst them all which both QLD and WA are refusing to pay to GSS. Ever since they have deflected blame to the feds for any bad outcome and expect to wedge the feds on the costs of their own restrictions ![]() |
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![]() As far as I know the Australian Constitution can only be altered by a referendum and it requires a super majority to gain approval. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-...ralia/13070108 Quote:
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If a CFO went to a CIO and said his finance team will develop and install a piece of software because they liked it so much, and the CIO agreed, and the software crashed the organisation, who is ultimately accountable? We might find out if/when minutes of the national cabinet is made available. Court has ruled that these minutes should be made available, but FOI requests from a senator keeps getting blocked. Maybe a royal inquiry is needed.
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The states wanted all the control until it cost too much and got out of hand and then wanted to flick the dog**** over the fence. Then they fall back to it's not our responsibility ![]() National cabinet decisions are not binding. It's a forum to achieve consensus but even when they do some go their own way. The minutes would be interesting to clarify. |
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Because the CIO wouldn't be stupid enough to allow it to happen if the CFO didn't take all of the responsibility. ![]() |
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Who knows what the future of it will be though….
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![]() Bigger question is, whats going to happen in the next pandemic? The Mickleham set up suggests states will run it again. ![]()
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Please tell me you would start to say enough is enough. We are born with an immune system for a reason, how about letting it do some work instead of trying to make a bandaid. Also most people who have died have had severe underlying conditions, that's a fact. As I said the gold post's keep moving, but no one in the Media seem to ask any questions of the medicinal companies. When they have an indemnity against them for any long term implication's, that's another worry. Yes you will say I'm just another nutter, fact is I'm just very hesitant with this vaccine and I have just had my Booster, do I want any more. No thankyou. I'm nearing 50, but have chosen a healthy lifestyle so I have no medical conditions what so ever. Rant over. |
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None of the vaccines (there isn't just one) were ever claimed to be 95% effective against you getting COVID variants that were prevalent at the time - I've posted the actual figures claimed here before (which differed for our two main vaccines). What they did claim was ~95% (Pfizer) and ~87% (Astrazeneca) effective against serious illness or death for those variants. The goal posts don't keep moving - the virus has evolved and thus the efficacy of the vaccines has also changed. The claimed efficacy was for variants up to and including Delta but they have proven less effective against Omicron, particularly as their benefit is not as long lasting as might have been hoped thus the need for boosters. It isn't even true to say that most of the deaths are amongst those with underlying co-morbidities. Yes, they do make up about 70% of the deaths in those countries with mature health systems but the 30% is still 1.5M people globally that were otherwise healthy enough.Indeed, age has proven to be a bigger indicator with 81% of Australian deaths occurring in the over 70's. Whether we need different vaccines for different strains remains to be seen but the flu jab that has been around for decades is different almost every year without people screaming from the rooftops that it's a menace to society.
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Using your analogy here, you have an engine builder that has to get 5 different external parties to agree on how they want the engine to perform - 1 demands a lumpy idle, 1 wants topend power, 1 wants torque down low, 1 wants fuel economy and 1 wants it to be a hybrid. It is impossible to give them all what they want, so you let each build their own motor and THEY are all individually responsible for their engine performs.
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In reply to GTMOND, I am 69 yrs old and very severely immunodeficient, I had my Pfizer shots including booster, and will have another, and another and another, if I die it won't be from Covid but some other simple disease, but I will be vaccinated, as I am the flu every year, and TB, plus tetanus!
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7 different ways of doing things. At the very least, as the accountable party, there should have been oversight. Ok, you want to run it? Fine, but here are the policies you operate under - facilities need to be of x standard, people you hire needs to be of x standard. Governance 101. In your analogy, the customer ultimately just needs a reliable engine that will last. Head mechanic should have said, go build how you want to, but it needs to last at least 500,000kms, weigh no more than 200kg, fit in a BA and run on pump fuel. ![]()
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I know Eastern state folk don't care what happens in WA, some care but others dont!
This was in my morning paper, so I went onto the net to get a copy from ABC News, 15 hours ago! ![]() https://amp.abc.net.au/article/10079...rom%20%251%24s |
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It wasn't about the vax, it was about the immune system and letting it do some work. If our immune systems were infallible then why do we get cancer?
One of the biggest alternative beliefs seems to be about letting our immune system handle it but it's like they've never considered their immune system might actually let them down. If an unaided immune system was impenetrable, people wouldn't get cancer. That aside, I don't want to move those heavy gold posts so maybe that one is slightly off-topic. ![]() |
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I also believe that cancer and other diseases, illnesses are caused to some degree by "karma" I know that my statement may sound silly to some folk, but I believe in reincarnation and I believe that karma is the cause of all pain and suffering. I am allowed to have this viewpoint, as you have yours and other folk theirs, but as you know I has my left lung removed, due to tumours which were caused by breathing asbestos fibres in the 70's, now I being a smoker and was a confined space welder, both which cause COPD, but in my favour is the fact my lung was pink?....by rights, according to thoracic surgeons my lung should of been a dirty charcoal grey. Cancer is a rotten disease, but so is Type 1 Diabetes, especially in young kiddies, what a terrible thing being skin pricked and injected every day for the rest of your life. All these things affect our bodies immune function, but to blame smoking and too much sugar is wrong, it just is what it is, a disease which some get and others dont ![]() |
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NSW records 11,632 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate increases to 0.9909 from 0.9581) while the actual line remains above the predictive trend line. ![]() VIC records 12,157 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate decreases to 1.0146 (from 1.0204) while the actual line remains above the predictive trend. ![]() The NT (1,201) set a new daily high (2/2). Here is the predictive trend graph for three States based on cases since Omicron was identified which, for our purposes, will be taken as December 1st. ![]()
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