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When I went in to be tested, they had 2 staff processing the people, then another staff confirming the stickers, then 1 or 2 staff actually doing the testing. I'm told the going rate to analyse a swab is $80+. They would have processed over 1,000 people today. I'm sure they could have put on a few more staff, considering that much of the staff time is taken up by non medical jobs like data entry and checking of personal details against the print out. Quote:
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We have been locked up for almost 2 years, now that we can travel both interstate and OS to a certain degree with a negative result the boffins in charge allowed a huge number of testing locations to close over the Christmas period. I have 3 testing locations within walking distance to me and all closed. I have 3 more close by that are also closed. Some for a few days, some till early Jan. Who would have guessed that all the other places that remained open would have overwhelming attendance? Really? But, McDonalds never closed, nor did lots of other places. What are our priorities here? Quote:
And lets think about this for a second from a 'common sense' point of view - what good is a test result that is 3 days old? Lets be realistic here - are people seriously believing that all those negatives are still guaranteed to still be negative after 3 days?? Yes, but there is HUGE, HUGE money being made with all this testing. We are being treated worse than in some developing countries and paying for it handsomely for the privilege of being stuffed around.
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And they cancelled the need for testing on day 5 for visitors....
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NSW demands Queensland change ‘stupid’ Covid test rules as queues and delays grow
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252 for ACT today. They have reclassified a lot of sites to monitor for symptoms instead of casual which has testing requirement so see how much that helps.
It was just was on the news they were only getting 0.6% positive rate on 5th day test so seems like a no brainer to me when you have community spread well and truly. |
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Details of previously secret battle over Victorian COVID contact tracing information made public
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And I figured, if I'm going to get it, may as well get the "mild" Omnicron, and from one person, and that one person wearing a mask = very low viral load. Actually, the second part didn't cross my mind until just now ![]()
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The hit piece was first released by News Corpes Herald Sun with a much different headline. Key points left out:
Thats right. The bill that the numpties were trying to kill actually strenghtened the protection of the data (which was negotiated by the indies). ![]()
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Australia
NSW records 11,201 cases in the current period (another new record) and the 10-day average growth rate increases to 1.1861 (from 1.1047) while the actual line is back above the predictive trend line. ![]() VIC records 3,767 cases in the current period (also a record high) and the 10-day average growth rate increases to 1.1350 (from 1.0800) while the actual line is now well above the predictive trend. ![]() Queensland (1,158), SA (995), Tasmania (46) and the ACT (252) all set new daily highs again yesterday (28/12).
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The current fortnight of UK data for cases and elapsed mortalities has finished.
There were 709,107 cases in the period to 12/12 and 1,564 deaths between 13-27/12 for a CMR of 0.221% which is lower than the previous period at 0.275%. Case numbers, however, are up by 76k (13%) over the previous period so there will be some flow on. Thus, in the 150 days since 'freedom day' they have totalled 5,337,964 cases and 18,420 deaths for an overall CMR of 0.345% which is below the 0.364% at day 135. Here it is graphed - note that the base column at the end is the 2 week period prior to freedom day. ![]() To put that into an Australian perspective: If we had similar CMR and case rates to the UK we'd have about 15M cases and 51.7k deaths per annum.
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT December 28th 2021.
11,192 new cases for Australia (a new record) and 5 deaths so the CMR is 0.681%. NZ reported 44 cases and no deaths for a CMR of 0.352%. The UK recorded 129,385 cases and 18 deaths for a CMR of 1.200%. 395,801 new cases in the USA yesterday (a new record) and 1,609 deaths sees CMR at 1.561%. It should be noted that I have equalised the figures for some countries across the 3 days where it was obvious that their high numbers were catch up. I have also applied this to both the global case numbers and those for Europe otherwise both would have been stupidly high. Other notable points: Global cases pass 283M, the last 1M in 1 days; Europe passes 84M cases; North America passes 64M cases; Spain passes 5M cases; Burkina Faso (592); Iceland (737); Burundi (937); Montenegro (1,120); Malta (1,298); Cyprus (2,241); Angola (3,090); Zambia (3,907); Reunion (4,807); Ethiopia (5,185); Greece (9,284); Switzerland (10,373) - the previous high (10,128) on 5/11/20; Australia (11,192); Greece (21,657); Canada (21,658); Spain (99,671); the United Kingdom (129,385); and the USA (395,801) .... recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. Slovenia, Montenegro, Turkey, Argentina and Latvia move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and Poland drops below.
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After the NSW numbers today, the statement made a couple of days ago by that old fool with a God complex keeps replaying in my head. "Bottom line here is that we would expect that pretty well everybody in New South Wales at some point will get Omicron. We're all going to get Omicron."
This narcissistic old moron thinks we all should just accept HIS reality. Hey.. we're all going to get infected so let's just make it easier for everyone in Australia to get infected hey?? Does he really think it can be contained in just his state, without spilling over to the rest of Australia?? Absolute moron. At some point we are all going to die. Might as well get it over and done with.. right?? ![]() |
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So does have different officials in different states make it any less narcissistic or an emerging general opinion? However ridiculous you and I personally think it is. |
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NT CHO said the same today….
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06/08 Manual FG XR6T. Not an FG1 or MKI, an FG... ![]() Want to know how to do an A Service for an FG XR6T? Look in this http://fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11339404 Thinking of oil sampling your engine? Have a look at this trend http://fordforums.com.au/showthread....ght=oil+sample |
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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This virus wont be eradicated, it will continue on in different mutations, just like the yearly flu, for the foreseeable future only much more easily spread and will claim many lives. The way we in Australia have dealt with it up to this point has provided many with a false sense of security, suppression was never going to be the answer, all it did was bought time for those who bought in to get vaccinated and give themselves a better than average chance of avoiding serious complications, even that isnt the magic bullet though. |
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I'm 42 and I've had the flu shot every year for as long as I remember. Being a vaccine and not a cure, its job is to decrease your chances of getting it and the severity of it if you do get it. Doesn't always work like that and unfortunately some people get badly sick or die. Because of this, I have no idea whether I have contracted the flu in the past. Maybe I never have. Maybe I've had it 10 times. Maybe that mid winter sniffle I had 5 years ago was a flu infection that was shut down by the vaccine. I can't test for it anymore, nor can anyone else, so we'll never know. My simple mind and view sees this will be covid for me (and I suppose all of us) in the future. Whether that future is over the next few months or over the next few years it remains to be seen. |
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I wonder if health authorities, or anyone else for that matter, have done the numbers in terms of what is an acceptable number of cases per day.
For example, if the average stay for a covid hospitilisation is, say, 14 days. And we have X number of "beds" for covid patients without severely impacting other non covid patients. And Y% of Covid cases (Z) results in hospitilisation. Then what is the Z that can we live with?
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South Africa study suggests Omicron could displace Delta
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So the QLD government will accept rapid tests for entry.
How will they actually confirm they are from the person submitting them? Is it just a matter of showing the plastic result 'thinggo' to someone when entering QLD? Unless someone actually watches the test being done then the whole thing is pointless and open to abuse.
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The RAT's are simply a token gesture to appease the hysterical no different to QR check-ins. They're hoping people do the right thing. |
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Heading out to get my boost.
Just in time as Central Qld has bin infected. |
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Average stay 12 days; Average cases requiring hospitalisation: 12.1%; Average cases requiring ICU: 4.1%. It's the latter number that has been the focus to date with (for example) NSW having 844 ICU beds available although I suspect the average stay there might be a bit lower given the mortality rate but you could take the simple linear approach and say .... 844 beds available means 844 ICU cases over (let's say) 10 days. 844 ICU cases at 4% of infections means 21,100 cases over 10 days - which number we have already exceeded. The saviour here, it that Omicron cases (based on the UK data I posted the other day) seem to have ICU admission rates about 1/10th those of Delta which would translate to 200k cases over our 10-day period instead.
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NSW records 12,226 cases in the current period (another new record) and the 10-day average growth rate increases to 1.1978 (from 1.1861) while the actual line is back above the predictive trend line. ![]() VIC records 5,137 cases in the current period (also a record high) and the 10-day average growth rate increases to 1.1664 (from 1.0350) while the actual line is now well above the predictive trend. ![]() Queensland (1,589), SA (1,472) and Tasmania (56) all set new daily highs again yesterday (29/12).
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NSW hospitilisation on the 15th Dec was 166. Its 746 today, with a 100+ jump overnight. 64.5% of those are fully UNvaccinated....according to covidlive.
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