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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT September 20th 2021.
Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting. 1,486 new cases for Australia and 5 deaths so the CMR is 1.339%. 22 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 0.661%. The UK had 35,702 cases yesterday and 49 deaths for a CMR of 1.812%. 133,725 new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,203 deaths (some carried over from the weekend) sees CMR at 1.611%. Other notable points: Only - Syria (204); and French Guiana (445) ... recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period while Ireland and Kazakhstan drop below.
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NSW/VIC
NSW records 1,023 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate increases to 0.9627 (from 0.9573) while the actual line is almost back to the predictive trend line and based on the 4th order polynomial, that trend line now has a downward curve. ![]() VIC records 603 cases in the current period (another high for this outbreak) and the 10-day average growth rate decreases to 1.0420 (from 1.10714) while the actual line moves closer to the predictive trend line. ![]()
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Professor Sutton is a Fellow of the Royal Society for Public Health, a Fellow of the Australasian College of Tropical Medicine and a Fellow of the Australasian Faculty of Public Health Medicine (AFPHM). He is also a member of the Faculty of Travel Medicine. ... is a bit more than you actually stated and he is only one of a much larger group of experts in a variety of fields who agree on the advice that should be presented to the Government but you keep belittling him because I'm sure you must know better.
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Why does everyone think it is all left wing and communism with unions is beyond me; your mate needs education with politics and unionism to understand how it all works. ![]() |
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Having a job matters. Having to eat your lunch outside doesn't matter. Yesterday they were chanting shut it down. Now they have their wish.
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And yes, I feel said mate is slipping into the ether. Hard to have a normal conversation with him these days. Politics or not, everything inevitably somehow comes back to "communism" ![]()
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Just took the dog for a walk, was in a park by myself. No one within 200 metres of me, but I had to wear a facemask.
These are the rules that will lose people. Why do they not go back to the "mask outdoors where you cannot socially distance". That made sense. I will happily comply if I feel like I am remotely making a difference. This is just dumb and takes away hugely of one of the few freedoms left. Worst of all, this will not go away in Vic until 80% 2nd jab. It just proves that no matter how many fellowships our CHO has he is not a Fellow of common sense. In my opinion of course!
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Where I live I’d say mask compliance on my regular walk is down to single percentage figures and of those that are wearing it I’d estimate 5-10% actually wear it covering they nose and mouth. Compare that to down at the shops indoors or outdoors and compliance would still be easily over 95%. Whether it’s Sutton, Andrew’s or the advisory board they need to remember that what’s ideal from a risk minimisation perspective with only Covid cases in mind, is not ideal in terms of mental or physical health, let alone economic impacts and community division, the middle ground is nowhere near our current pathway. |
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Nobody is holding them down and injecting them. They don't have to get vaccinated. They just might need to work in a different job. I am happy to accept this.
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It's forcing them to by stealth. Yeah they aren't being held down, but if we take away their job, make their life not worth living and basically ensure they can barely leave their house, then what choice do you give them? Now they are firing tear gas at the protestors. If you didn't think Dan Andrews was trying to crush anyone who dares question his authority, this should be all the proof you need. It's probably a diversion away from todays news story about him selling out his countrymen. Treasonous scum. ![]() |
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But if its just a shot for the lowly flu what are you worried about?
Unreal that construction workers get locked down for 2 weeks and how many other industries have been shut for how long? Or is it because most of these people would struggle to have savings to get them through two weeks? Industry advised on incoming requirement, "members" stage illegal protest and warned they would be shut down. Shut down occurs and its all surprise? ![]() No wonder most people dont go into politics.
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It's mandating by coercion too.
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Its very simple Dont want to be vaccinated? Dont tnen But dont whinge if you cant work somewhere where its a requirement of employment. You shouldnt be entitled to free medical treatment should you refuse vax & then become seriously ill from covid. If it was up to me treatment should be refused. Freedom of choice does not mean freedom from consequences.
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That's right, you can't. In the meantime, go out and get yourself something that has been proven to work in the short term. It gives you a better chance of surviving the pandemic than holding out for something that doesn't exist. There's no point in comparing the existing treatments with something that doesn't even exist. You'll just burst your boiler getting agitated about it and we'll all go crazy from hearing the same stuff time and time again.
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Every choice we make in life has repercussions. No different in this case.
Actually, thinking about this a bit more, I don't actually have a problem with people making the choice to not get the covid-19 vaccine. The impact from the people not getting a vaccine is that the number of cases, hospitilisations and deaths will be grater than what has been predicted, and based upon those figures, when the states will start to open up again. As long as those who choose not to get a vaccine don't rely on our public health system when (not if) they catch covid and clog up our heath system for those who have made a choice based on their own health, their families health, or the greater good of the community they live in, then feel free to make the decision you want. Just don't allow your choice make an impact on the rest of us.
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I'm jumping out for a bit before this gets out of control. This has the potential to go south pretty quickly.
I understand people's views and choices, even though I may not agree with them.
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A day in a life.......
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...rs-2021-09-16/
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No - it's still a choice. You might not like the consequences but you can still make that choice for yourself. It's not much difference to the consequences of breaking the criminal code - you can choose to murder someone if you want to but the consequence will be a long stay at one of Her Majesty's Holiday Camps with nocturnal activities thrown in as a bonus.
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As for firing tear gas at protesters - if they intend to behave in the aggressive and rabid manner they have been so far then what else would you expect? Or would you prefer a baton charge, rubber bullets, water cannon instead? If you want to act like an animal then don't whine if you get treated like one. Quote:
I could understand all the bleating if we were dragging people off the streets and forcing vaccines into their arms but we aren't and our Governments (and various employer groups) have a responsibility to provide a safe environment for the rest of us. As for the stupid comments about the efficacy of the vaccines, go and read the research that has been conducted in the US and UK about just how effective they are in terms of reducing your chance of dying by somewhere between 25x and 30x and that is what actually matters. Here is a final warning for the anti-vax and anti-Government posters. Go find some other far whichever wing forum where your views might find a sympathetic audience of like minded nutters because your views aren't welcome here and future posts of that nature are just going to be deleted so you'll be wasting your effort.
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As soon as you join a public forum and post in a thread, then disagree with that person's view, that makes you political!,,,,or a politician!... Politics is part of every stream of everyday life!..... Cheers Billy ![]() |
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I'm curious. Did you join a car forum to talk about your car, presumably a Ford, or just to find somewhere to argue your beliefs?
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^ I'm after a Mondeo wagon, I've started a thread in the appropriate place GasoLane
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So let me ask this question.
Why is it so verboten to counter the official narrative and subsequent actions by the governments, here and around the world? Last edited by Stambolova; 21-09-2021 at 05:18 PM. |
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