New Facelifted Territory! - Page 5

Nikked · 02-03-2009, 07:41 PM

I think ford have done a good job on the facelift, given that they have little money to spend. The Shape of the terri is good anyway.

Did people really expect a bran new terri anyway? Fords model cycles last 6 - 10 years so we are not due for an all new one untill 2010 at least....

Mr_4.0 · 02-03-2009, 07:43 PM

u can barely notice the new bonnet bulge.

Bossxr8 · 02-03-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by vztrt

Ford just started advertising a value deal on territories.

To clear run out stock.

Wretched · 02-03-2009, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by XR6_190

They spent the cash on it now to keep it relevant, not necessarily to gain sales, but to keep them at a constant and not loose any sales, and more importantly, to keep people interested in the Terri for when the new model does arrive.

What is keeping people interested in it?
As I said it would been better to either release a decent update or hold off completely till next year. There is no sympathy in the car industry, it is cut throat, now more than ever, to keep buyers interested the car maker needs to offer them something. At the moment Ford isn't doing that with the Territory. It has so much potential.

aualright · 03-03-2009, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by colossus

I am shopping for a SUV at the moment for the wife and this update won't cut it sorry.

I don't want to upset anyone but I will be completley honest - I wanted a Territory (6spd AWD ghia) when we started the new car search - but it will be the wifes car so her decision. She wants the RAV4 V6 - more power, lighter, almost just as big inside (the new models have really grown) and in the real world gets about 12L/100km. The Territory on the other hand is getting 15-18L/100km around the city (where she does all her driving). Its hard to argue with her when presented with these facts. It would have taken a diesal or smaller/more efficient 6 to get her into one. I agree the Territory looks alot better than the RAV though. Oh well maybe next time.

I feel sorry for you mate. Choosing a RAV4 over a Territory must be a monetary thing as you couldn't possibly do it on anything else, despite what you have listed. The RAV4 hasn't exactly been innovative in its design for some time now. As for the power, is it as usable as the Ford's? 15 - 18L / 100km sounds a bit higher than mine around town, but I do know it can achieve way under 10 on the highway, with the added stability and dynamics that a RAV4 just doesn't have.

BTW...update is fine but am disappointed with the 4 speed still being included. Maybe expecting too much.

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EgoFG · 03-03-2009, 12:44 AM

I Just hope some of the new componentry was stolen from the Next model

vztrt · 03-03-2009, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

To clear run out stock.

Yeah i picked up on that.

Funny it seems Ford is advertising more then in previous years.

Paxton · 03-03-2009, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by vztrt

Yeah i picked up on that.

Funny it seems Ford is advertising more then in previous years.

Ford have a better boss than previous years. An Australian, who actually wants the company to succeed.

**Luke Plaizier** · 03-03-2009, 09:03 AM

ED Falcon, AUIII Falcon, Late BFII XR and now SRII Territory.

All stop-gap facelift models while there was a delay in bringing out the real update. It has happened. It will happen again.

As for the RAV4 vs Territory - a decider for me was having a car that could fit an LPG conversion, and still be a drivers car. It changes the operating costs considerably. Are there any useable LPG conversions available for the RAV4?

Lukeyson

YOOT · 03-03-2009, 04:02 PM

How can they justify selling the RWD Ghia with only a 4-speed auto?! Would you buy a 4-speed G6E?

XR Martin · 03-03-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by YOOT

How can they justify selling the RWD Ghia with only a 4-speed auto?! Would you buy a 4-speed G6E?

If you option LPG on the G6E you get the 4speeder....

Gobes32 · 03-03-2009, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

If you option LPG on the G6E you get the 4speeder....

Not for much longer if the rumors are true..........

Bossxr8 · 03-03-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke Plaizier

ED Falcon, AUIII Falcon, Late BFII XR and now SRII Territory.

All stop-gap facelift models while there was a delay in bringing out the real update. It has happened. It will happen again.

As for the RAV4 vs Territory - a decider for me was having a car that could fit an LPG conversion, and still be a drivers car. It changes the operating costs considerably. Are there any useable LPG conversions available for the RAV4?

Lukeyson

Not to mention EA II, XF II, XC Update etc. You could probably put EL in that list too. People should know that not every update can be a total make over. They seem to think it hasn't happened before.

vztrt · 04-03-2009, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Not to mention EA II, XF II, XC Update etc. You could probably put EL in that list too. People should know that not every update can be a total make over. They seem to think it hasn't happened before.

lol, obviously a SII on a vehicle should be a complete new design!!

I think people are going on about this upgrade because there was no change from the SX to the SY.

seduced_xr · 04-03-2009, 05:08 AM

this is the same as the ba -bf upgrade..

the bf sold alright with minor changes.. some1 will say yes but the bf had a bigger engine.. 8kw was it..

the new territory to me means :

-alot of people will be looking at getting a front end onto their current terrys
-with a bit of luck i can pick up a cheap territory.

Buddy 1 · 04-03-2009, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by seduced_xr

this is the same as the ba -bf upgrade..

the bf sold alright with minor changes.. some1 will say yes but the bf had a bigger engine.. 8kw was it..

the new territory to me means :

-alot of people will be looking at getting a front end onto their current terrys
-with a bit of luck i can pick up a cheap territory.

Not really the same :P

The BF/ BFII update was not just 8kw it was a much smoother & more responsive Engine & much Improved gearbox than before.

It also had better sound proofing measures along with Trim & External Appearance updates.

As far as I am aware the New Terra has only Visual Updates.

vztrt · 04-03-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddy 1

Not really the same :P

The BF/ BFII update was not just 8kw it was a much smoother & more responsive Engine & much Improved gearbox than before.

It also had better sound proofing measures along with Trim & External Appearance updates.

As far as I am aware the New Terra has only Visual Updates.

bf to bfii was a exterior change. The BF and BFII had the euro 4 update and the new 4 speed auto.

DDXR6T · 04-03-2009, 07:35 PM

Useless ... Was looking forward to some kinetic styling!

Gobes32 · 04-03-2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan635

Useless ... Was looking forward to some kinetic styling!

And next year you will get it...........

AUXRVIII · 04-03-2009, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by vztrt

bf to bfii was a exterior change. The BF and BFII had the euro 4 update and the new 4 speed auto.

6 speed auto.

Froudey · 04-03-2009, 10:35 PM

Escape anyone?

vztrt · 05-03-2009, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AUXRVIII

6 speed auto.

Yeah that, lol

Buddy 1 · 05-03-2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by vztrt

bf to bfii was a exterior change. The BF and BFII had the euro 4 update and the new 4 speed auto.

I did say the BF & BFII & not BF to BFII Update :P

However 18 months or so ago when I was looking at getting my Current Vehicle (BFII) I did research what was New about the BFII & while I cannot remember all the Details I do Remember was an Article I came across on the Net outlining all the Differances & it was more than just an Exterior Cosmetic Change, BF to BFII.

I know in the XR's the trim was changed a bit & the Instrument Background.
Also think the Rims were new for BFII on XR's

Think also DSC was offered on BFII though not sure on that one.

Paxton · 05-03-2009, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by vztrt

Yeah that, lol

Also, Euro IV is not till 2010 for Falcon.

It was the ZF and Euro III for the BF Update.

**Luke Plaizier** · 05-03-2009, 10:28 AM

That does beg the observation though - the changes from BF to BFII amount to about the same as the changes from SY to SYII - nose plastics, interior trim, wheels, mirror indicators (oops, that last one got through my BS filter....).

I don't see the problem. Or was there a thread deriding the BFII as a plastics-and-colours overhaul as well?

I wonder if the AUIII or the ED copped this treatment too?

Lukeyson

vztrt · 05-03-2009, 01:02 PM

Buddy1 - reread your post and yeah I misread it thinking BF-BFII

Paxton, yeah your right mixing my numbers up all over the place.

Luke_P - Yeah the BFII was criticised and was a failure etc. But then you get people whinging about no update etc. You will never make everyone happy.

Froudey · 05-03-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by vztrt

Buddy1 - reread your post and yeah I misread it thinking BF-BFII

Paxton, yeah your right mixing my numbers up all over the place.

Luke_P - Yeah the BFII was criticised and was a failure etc. But then you get people whinging about no update etc. You will never make everyone happy.

the only failure with the BFII was the retarded two tone XR6/8 sideskirts and bumpers etc.

vztrt · 06-03-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Froudey

the only failure with the BFII was the retarded two tone XR6/8 sideskirts and bumpers etc.

Some people like the change, while others dont (mind you that was only on the very last of the BFII as the design guys got in trouble for not doing it when the BFII was released). Personally I think some colours work with the two tone while others don't.

YOOT · 06-03-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

If you option LPG on the G6E you get the 4speeder....

Who would buy that? Make a good car bad, and pay extra for it

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DDXR6T · 07-03-2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Gobes32

And next year you will get it...........

But, the question beckons - Will next year be too late?