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Citroënbender · 02-09-2021, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DJR-351

Australia's international travel ban has been extended by a further three months.....

Is anyone surprised?

I’ve been waiting for comment on the disparity between NSW and VIC interim relaxations. The former reaches 70%x1 Covid vaccinations and some residents get more exercise freedom. The latter promises a doubling of the travel radius at the same waymark.

nstg8a · 02-09-2021, 07:49 PM

Those on bookface should be able to see this.

It’s bloody well done and quite funny.

https://fb.watch/7Mior0jnZh/

Gladys being honest?

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hayseed · 02-09-2021, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

Those on bookface should be able to see this.

It’s bloody well done and quite funny.

https://fb.watch/7Mior0jnZh/

Gladys being honest?

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Someone has far Too Much Time on their hands..

Citroënbender · 02-09-2021, 11:35 PM

Good news for those missing their perusal of knobs and knockers in the hardware aisles.

Many Greater Sydney Bunnings re-opening to the general unwashed from next Monday. The branches in “LGAs of concern” will remain trade plus Click/Collect.

burnz · 02-09-2021, 11:49 PM

a satrical lookhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLTGXblgUoc

**GasoLane** · 02-09-2021, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by burnz

a satrical lookhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLTGXblgUoc

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

Those on bookface should be able to see this.

It’s bloody well done and quite funny.

https://fb.watch/7Mior0jnZh/

Gladys being honest?

Ben73 · 03-09-2021, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by hayseed

Someone has far Too Much Time on their hands..

Are you a Gladys fan?
Over 2000 hours of government mandated home confinement means some people are not too busy.

Trevor 57 · 03-09-2021, 06:46 AM

Here is a good Facebook post - Scotty from Marketing at it again - you have to sit through some other stuff as well - which is quite entertaining

https://fb.watch/7MUV2jx-sz/

**Polyal** · 03-09-2021, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DJR-351

Australia's international travel ban has been extended by a further three months.....

COVID-19 emergency measures extended for a further three months

https://www.health.gov.au/ministers/...three-months-0

This is not good...if people want to go let them go! If they need to come back then its at the mercy of the quarantine system but at least they have a choice.

**DJR-351** · 03-09-2021, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

This is not good...if people want to go let them go! If they need to come back then its at the mercy of the quarantine system but at least they have a choice.

It should also be determined by the country you wish to travel to, if they say no then you don't get on the plane...end of story, but, if they are happy for you to enter their country, and provided you meet their requirements before hand, then by all means go....

Returning......as you say.

Ben73 · 03-09-2021, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

This is not good...if people want to go let them go! If they need to come back then its at the mercy of the quarantine system but at least they have a choice.

It is insane that this government won’t let people leave the country. If another country will allow you to enter you should be able to go.
Is Mr Kim the new advisor for Australian travel?

**buggerlugs** · 03-09-2021, 08:08 AM

https://www.news.com.au/world/corona...8c92c238c36f57

So old mate bags the vaccine, then carks it from Covid, then the family start up a go fund me page !! Only in 'merica.............

**Burnout** · 03-09-2021, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by buggerlugs

https://www.news.com.au/world/corona...8c92c238c36f57

So old mate bags the vaccine, then carks it from Covid, then the family start up a go fund me page !! Only in 'merica.............

It'll happen here to.
There are idiots out there....... now that we have got sick & tired of being locked up and dictated to by a bunch of second rate polling and drones.

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Ben73 · 03-09-2021, 08:19 AM

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The app will contact people at random asking them to provide proof of their location within 15 minutes.

If a person cannot successfully verify their location or identity when requested, SA Health will notify SA Police

You all good SA?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-...work/100398878

**Polyal** · 03-09-2021, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben73

It is insane that this government won’t let people leave the country. If another country will allow you to enter you should be able to go.
Is Mr Kim the new advisor for Australian travel?

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Originally Posted by DJR-351

It should also be determined by the country you wish to travel to, if they say no then you don't get on the plane...end of story, but, if they are happy for you to enter their country, and provided you meet their requirements before hand, then by all means go....

Returning......as you say.

Exactly, out of all the restrictions this one gets me the most.

If someone wants to pay big bucks for an airfare out, is happy to hotel quarantine on the way back, is vaccinated and complies with the onboarding country then what is the issue?

There wouldnt be many countries allowing travel anyway, and to that point while Australia is not letting anyone in the other countries generally are snubbing us....madness!

**Polyal** · 03-09-2021, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

Those on bookface should be able to see this.

It’s bloody well done and quite funny.

https://fb.watch/7Mior0jnZh/

Gladys being honest?

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I did laugh, but, the laugh is on the other states. NSW is the only state with a plan to get on with life. All the others are still in lock up mode, negative and fearful communication etc

slowsnake · 03-09-2021, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by buggerlugs

https://www.news.com.au/world/corona...8c92c238c36f57

So old mate bags the vaccine, then carks it from Covid, then the family start up a go fund me page !! Only in 'merica.............

Mmmm, seen news reports here in Oz, some fool driving too fast, too young, and bang hit a tree, Go Fund Me Page started immediately by someone other than the dead persons family?..not just America!

Cheers 14X

**FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0** · 03-09-2021, 09:36 AM

Looks like your trend line is going to have a pretty big kick-up today, Russ, with 208 cases recorded in Vic today.

No surprise when there's people out doing this sort of thing....

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/coronav...b25b112b46f5fd

T3rminator · 03-09-2021, 09:41 AM

Anyone else noticing lock down enforcement fatigue? Cops seem just as over it as joe public. Last night, at a set of lights, a middle to old aged couple cross the lights in front of a cop car. Carrying groceries, no one else around them, but they weren't wearing masks. Cops didn't batter an eye lid. Beaches were packed and you had no riot squads.

Being on the market for new tints, I've been ringing around for info and quotes. A number of places have said "if you are within 5kms, bring it down for me to have a look at". Since when was tinting an essential during stage 4?

Vic set to join NSW with big numbers.

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Exactly, out of all the restrictions this one gets me the most.

Well, if you are an economist or the incumbent gov, it makes perfect sense. Allowing people to leave, whilst the rest of the world has opened up and we are locked down, means a potential mass net outflow of consumers and tax payers. And that, is not good for the economy.

Citroënbender · 03-09-2021, 09:57 AM

I live in hope of the seven plagues besetting our incumbents. Or at least the lice, flies and boils.

…Tell old Scomo
Let my people go!

The gay nomads are five weeks gone back to Italy, zero regrets. They tell that people wear masks in some situations but it’s apparently largely left to courtesy and good sense. No curfews, no travel limits, no paranoia. Cases of Covid are logged but not used as a tool of social control.

T3rminator · 03-09-2021, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

I did laugh, but, the laugh is on the other states. NSW is the only state with a plan to get on with life. All the others are still in lock up mode, negative and fearful communication etc

Its interesting. One could argue that the other 2 big states, WA and QLD are living pretty freely and normal at the moment. So why would they plan to go backwards?....once we open up, they'll need to start mandating masks (I think QLD already has this at the moment?), limit crowds at big sporting events etc.

The country had an agreed exit plan. It was pretty clear. NSW gov deviated from that plan and screwed us over, and now they want to open up quicker than everyone else after being given priority for the vaccines.......yes, congrats on being the only ones with "a plan".

BENT_8 · 03-09-2021, 10:29 AM

Hows this for ridiculous, have been booked in for 4 weeks for Pfizer, started a new job on Monday, arranged time off for the jab this morning.
Roll into clinic, oh you have a congenital heart disease we can't jab you until you've got a letter from cardiologist.
I'm like WTF why am I being asked this today and not in the last month where I could have arranged that.
I've just been through needing a cardiologist consent to get my passenger accreditation so I know our public system can't cater to me for 6 months and a private consult takes a month @ $500 as it requires an ECG too.
So they say I need to give consent myself and take the risk or wait and risk getting covid.

What an absolute cluster ****.

XR Martin · 03-09-2021, 10:32 AM

You can leave the country if you want, the same way you would have done it a hundred years ago. Get on a boat and **** off.

You don't have some constitutional right to travel by plane.

T3rminator · 03-09-2021, 10:44 AM

Japan has just suspended Moderna due to contamination. Same thing being reported in a few other countries. Hope its just a previous batch issue, and won't affect our orders this month.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-p...ne-2021-08-30/

**Polyal** · 03-09-2021, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by XR Martin

You can leave the country if you want, the same way you would have done it a hundred years ago. Get on a boat and **** off.

You don't have some constitutional right to travel by plane.

So when are you trading in your FGX for a T model?

BENT_8 · 03-09-2021, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

Hows this for ridiculous, have been booked in for 4 weeks for Pfizer, started a new job on Monday, arranged time off for the jab this morning.
Roll into clinic, oh you have a congenital heart disease we can't jab you until you've got a letter from cardiologist.
I'm like WTF why am I being asked this today and not in the last month where I could have arranged that.
I've just been through needing a cardiologist consent to get my passenger accreditation so I know our public system can't cater to me for 6 months and a private consult takes a month @ $500 as it requires an ECG too.
So they say I need to give consent myself and take the risk or wait and risk getting covid.

What an absolute cluster ****.

Further to this, just spoke to SA Heart about this, they say I'm the first they've heard this from and suggested there will be a lot of angry people if they're asking this type of question during the jab consult as its clogging up the system for others.
3 weeks ago they added these questions to the list they ask as people are dying from Pfizer too but unless I've missed something it isn't being reported.

I'm not usually one to buy into conspiracy theories but right now I'm questioning wether people with co morbidities are not going to make it through the eventual spread after we open up jabbed or not.

ford71V8 · 03-09-2021, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

Hows this for ridiculous, have been booked in for 4 weeks for Pfizer, started a new job on Monday, arranged time off for the jab this morning.
Roll into clinic, oh you have a congenital heart disease we can't jab you until you've got a letter from cardiologist.
I'm like WTF why am I being asked this today and not in the last month where I could have arranged that.
I've just been through needing a cardiologist consent to get my passenger accreditation so I know our public system can't cater to me for 6 months and a private consult takes a month @ $500 as it requires an ECG too.
So they say I need to give consent myself and take the risk or wait and risk getting covid.

What an absolute cluster ****.

No surprises, typical system that doesn't work as it should.

What did you do in the end, if you are OK to share? I'm not sure what I'd do in that situation other than crack the ****s.

**DJR-351** · 03-09-2021, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by XR Martin

You can leave the country if you want, the same way you would have done it a hundred years ago. Get on a boat and **** off.

You don't have some constitutional right to travel by plane.

No you can't, without departure clearance you won't get into another country, and you won't get departure clearance.....

.....unless you are talking about going down the refugee track, illegally sneaking out and hoping some other country will take you in....

**russellw** · 03-09-2021, 11:28 AM

I've been fairly supportive of the job that the Victorian Government has done throughout the pandemic as they have largely avoided playing too much of the political game in favour of putting health concerns first.

However, (as I predicted) they have now wheeled out some talking head in the Health Department to stand up and say that reducing the AstraZeneca 2nd dose time to 6 weeks (from 12) is a good thing to do so that it becomes 'health' advice rather than the political expediency that it really is.

I actually watched all of the 5 major media outlets last night as they each trotted out their own Professor of something vaguely related to make the comment that the associated reduction in efficacy: doesn't matter / doesn't exist / disappears over time / is a conspiracy theory / is less of a risk than leaving people without their 2nd dose - (based entirely on the political leanings of the broadcaster).

I do understand the motivation. Obviously the decision is not based on the science or the recommendations from the manufacturer, WHO or even our own TGA but on the need for the Government to save themselves by getting people out of lockdown ASAP. As a reminder, at 6 weeks (the new recommended period) efficacy is only 60% compared to the 86% after 12 weeks (+2) and at the risk of repeating myself, I'm happy to do the extra 6 weeks of largely staying at home for the extra protection.

Here's another prediction and if it proves right then it really gets my goat:

.. those people who have their 2nd dose time shortened will end up with priority for the boosters whenever they start rolling out simply because of the reduced efficacy while the rest of us poor sods who've done the full 12 weeks will be at the back of the queue again.

Trevor 57 · 03-09-2021, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by russellw

I've been fairly supportive of the job that the Victorian Government has done throughout the pandemic as they have largely avoided playing too much of the political game in favour of putting health concerns first.

However, (as I predicted) they have now wheeled out some talking head in the Health Department to stand up and say that reducing the AstraZeneca 2nd dose time to 6 weeks (from 12) is a good thing to do so that it becomes 'health' advice rather than political the expediency that it really is.

I actually watched all of the 5 major media outlets last night as they all trotted out their own Professor of something vaguely related to make the comment that the associated reduction in efficacy: doesn't matter / doesn't exist / disappears over time / is a conspiracy theory / is less of a risk than leaving people without their 2nd dose (based entirely on the political leanings of the broadcaster).

I do understand the motivation. Obviously the decision is not based on the science or the recommendations from the manufacturer, WHO or even our own TGA but on the need for the Government to save themselves by getting people out of lockdown ASAP. As a reminder, at 6 weeks (the new recommended period) efficacy is only 60% compared to the 86% after 12 weeks (+2) and at the risk of repeating myself, I'm happy to do the extra 6 weeks of largely staying at home for the extra protection.

Here's another prediction and if it proves right then it really gets my goat:

.. those people who have their 2nd dose time shortened will end up with priority for the boosters whenever they start rolling out simply because of the reduced efficacy while the rest of us poor sods who've done the full 12 weeks will be at the back of the queue again.

I got the AZ and waited the 12 weeks (as I had to) and I am glad I did

Despite all the 'scare mongering' around AZ it looks like it has the best efficacy for the longest period of time of the 2 available at the moment