Covid 19 -

[AlanD]

On the question of bailouts of foreign owned businesses operating in Australia who ask for Government assistance in times of trouble.

I have been heard to say, but not here, that any use of Taxpayer funds for this purpose should only be considered if the company concerned is willing to provide the government with a quantity of the comapney's shares to the value of the level of funding being asked for.

If they went to the share-holders or the market for a capital injection they would have to do that.

Then, if the company chose to fold its tent in this country, the government could sell the shares and recoup some of the capital provided. Provided of course that the company shares were still viable overseas. If the company was bankrupt then the taxpayer loses, but this would be no different to what has happened with many of the assistance grants that have been provided in the past.

BTW the return to Govco from such companies activities is mostly from us, the taxpayer, in the various taxes and charges levied by Govco on the products being sold here.

And again: back to the pandemic

Cheers

Cheers

[CoupeKing]

Bye bye


https://pjmedia.com/trending/huge-th...r-coronavirus/

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Bye bye


https://pjmedia.com/trending/huge-th...r-coronavirus/

PJ Media must be on the ball as I can't find that story on any other media.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by GasoLane

PJ Media must be on the ball as I can't find that story on any other media.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ink-china-ties

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ink-china-ties

LOL, PJ media says that Boris Johnson is dropping Huawei, whilst Bloomberg says that the idea is under threat.

Journalistic license perhaps

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by GasoLane

LOL, PJ media says that Boris Johnson is dropping Huawei, whilst Bloomberg says that the idea is under threat.

Journalistic license perhaps

Everything the media says regardless of who it is should be taken with a grain of salt. Anyone see ABC's end of the road story on just now about Holden leaving Australia? They had a panel with a Holden enthusiast, a car journalist, Mark Skaife and some woman from Deloitte Access Economics who self admitted she knows nothing about cars, has never owned a Holden and sees cars as things you should spend the least amount of money on and try not to drive it as much as possible:

https://iview.abc.net.au/show/holden...nd-of-the-road

Lets see how it evolves, it would be a great idea to cut out China from everything future infrastructure.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Bye bye


https://pjmedia.com/trending/huge-th...r-coronavirus/

Japan is subsidising its own business to pull out of China too

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...n-out-of-china

Good to see everyone hurting them where it hurts the most - their hip pocket.

[AlanD]

Oops!

I got the name of the ship wrong in post 1883.

It should have been "Ruby Princess".

Johns Hopkins gives the "Diamond Princess" a listing all its own, and that is where I picked up the wrong name. That ship is having similar dramas evidently.

Sorry about the error.

Cheers

[Charliewool]

Incredible that Donald is still denying there’s a problem?
“Lots of states back to normal soon, probably this week”
This is on today’s USA figures of.... 736,790 infected, +27,055 in last 24hrs,
38,920 DEATHS, +1,766 Deaths in last 24hrs.

[Citroënbender]

“Isolation” in New South Wales, has come to mean “no obvious parties”. Everything else is suburbia is back to pretty much normal with added 1,5m gaps and sanitiser...

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

Incredible that Donald is still denying there’s a problem?
“Lots of states back to normal soon, probably this week”
This is on today’s USA figures of.... 736,790 infected, +27,055 in last 24hrs,
38,920 DEATHS, +1,766 Deaths in last 24hrs.

China is probably worse, they're just not being honest about it.

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

China is probably worse, they're just not being honest about it.

And the death toll in the US is still less than half it was during Hussein Obama's Administration during H1N1.

[Ross 1]

Originally Posted by Romulus

And the death toll in the US is still less than half it was during Hussein Obama's Administration during H1N1.

Source please.
CDC states 12500 deaths in a year from H1N1, Covid is nudging 40k in a few months of Trumps mismanagement.

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by Ross 1

Source please.
CDC states 12500 deaths in a year from H1N1, Covid is nudging 40k in a few months due to WHO's lies about human-to-human contact in January and China's lies and mismanagement of the WuFlu outbreak.

Correction. 12,000-61,000 deaths per year from influenza. It was Barry Obama's administration that sat on its hands during H1N1 and waited for 1700 deaths before Barry bothered to do anything.

[buggerlugs]

Originally Posted by Ross 1

Source please.
CDC states 12500 deaths in a year from H1N1, Covid is nudging 40k in a few months of Trumps mismanagement.

What's a few thousand between friends..............

[Charliewool]

And if Chinas understating their true figures, I’ll bet me left one Uncle Sam’s playing the same game to save face

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

And if Chinas understating their true figures, I’ll bet me left one Uncle Sam’s playing the same game to save face

Seems to be effecting African American community in a very bad way, wonder if it's a lifestyle thing or there's genetic differences that makes it lethal to them?

Any word on how COVID-19 effects our Indigenous community compared to the rest of us?

[98TLS]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Seems to be effecting African American community in a very bad way, wonder if it's a lifestyle thing or there's genetic differences that makes it lethal to them?

Any word on how COVID-19 effects our Indigenous community compared to the rest of us?

Chinese seem to think so as they are banning Blacks from bars restaurants and chucking them outta hotels as the cause of the virus,well thats according to Sky news. To stupid to be idiots.

[Tassie f100]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

And if Chinas understating their true figures, I’ll bet me left one Uncle Sam’s playing the same game to save face

With USA,s health system who would know how many have been turned away from a hospital because they didn’t have hosp cover or money.No money,no bed p*** off and die in the street,then no recorded data

[russellw]

With 32 new cases and 4 deaths yesterday our CMR is now just over 1%.
The US CMR continues to rise (5.23%) as does the UK (13.53%) while NZ dropped slightly to 0.77%.

[Franco Cozzo]

Australian defence officials are looking to how a plane from China held up a Royal Australian Air Force aircraft from landing in Vanuatu while carrying vital humanitarian supplies for the cyclone-struck nation.

The RAAF plane carrying aid was due to land in Vanuatu's capital Port Vila on Sunday, but turned around and returned to Australia when it realised a Chinese plane with medical equipment was also on the airport's tarmac.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...15-p54k5i.html

China blocking Australian plane landing in Vanuatu at Port Vila airport that was carrying supplies to assist with cyclone and COVID-19.

[Charliewool]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...15-p54k5i.html

China blocking Australian plane landing in Vanuatu at Port Vila airport that was carrying supplies to assist with cyclone and COVID-19.

“Belt and Road” ring a bell?
China now virtually owns Vanuatu...
All part of their massive push into the South Pacific...

https://dailypost.vu/news/vanuatu-an...1926d9873.html

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

“Belt and Road” ring a bell?
China now virtually owns Vanuatu...
All part of their massive push into the South Pacific...

https://dailypost.vu/news/vanuatu-an...1926d9873.html

Yes, I'm suspect on China's BS 'infrastructure' projects.

[Charliewool]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Yes, I'm suspect on China's BS 'infrastructure' projects.

Google Belt and Road...
And just which countries have signed! It is gobsmacking.
China’s “takeover” by stealth is spreading way faster & further than Covid19

[russellw]

Sometime today, Europe will surpass 100k deaths from it's more than 1M cases which gives them the worst CMR of any continent at 9.44%. Oceania still has the best CMR at 0.99% with Asia (3.89%), South America (4.68%), Africa (4.88%) and North America (5.25%) in between.

Europe is still over-represented in both cases and mortalities - with only 9.8% of the world population they have 45.5% of the cases and 62.2% of the deaths.

[Charliewool]

Blue is countries signed up...




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[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

Blue is countries signed up...

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Your map is missing Victoria

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-...-road/11636704

[Charliewool]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Your map is missing Victoria

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-...-road/11636704

And the Port of Darwin! (What a disgrace THAT was!)
Think I read Aus govco was trying to buy it back?

[Citroënbender]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

Blue is countries signed up...

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If China thinks they’ve got Russia wrapped up, I’ll get my deckchair and popcorn.

That aside, a well-connected, well-informed acquaintance visited Khazakstan in the last year, he gave it a massive rap for the efforts in building up a future medical hub on huge scale - I think for cutting edge processes, treatment régimes, elective surgery/tourism surgery. I wonder if it’s been tested at all by the outbreak of CV.

[Charliewool]

Some will say, we’re getting off the thread topic here?
I’d argue that Covid19, and China’s “ambitions” are pretty well intertwined?