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I’ve come to love having and using my chainsaws, but safety always front of mind. If I’m asked to do anything off the ground or out of reach (easily) of the pole, I’ll refer it to a professional.
I’ve had to do some pruning at my mums place, and her lack of awareness is astounding, it’s the same for every cut “hey! You see the branch I’m cutting? You see where it’s gonna fall? You see where you are standing?? MOVE.OUT.THE.EFFING.WAY!!!!!!!! Repeat.
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Before I started for the day, I walked into my local Stihl dealer with a wad of cash ready to buy a new chainsaw!
I had two models shortlisted, the $ 899 MS 251 and the $999 MS 271. These two are within Stihl's "Landowner" range, offering bigger engines than the "Homeowner" range, but without the bulk and extreme power of the "Professional" line that is catered to industries who use these all day long. https://www.stihl.com.au/STIHL-Produ...72/MS-251.aspx https://www.stihl.com.au/STIHL-Produ...72/MS-271.aspx Stihl also sell a MS 251 C-BE for $999 with their Easy2Start system, but I decided to forgo that feature. I figured that if I'm going to spend $1000, I would rather spend that on a more powerful machine. For the extra $100 over the 45.6cc MS 251, the MS 271 comes with a larger 50.2cc engine and a longer bar. In the end, I chose the MS 271 for the additional power and bar size for a modest price premium. Once you go above the MS 271, you start to get into pretty big money, so the 271 is a happy sweet spot in the range. This store is ALWAYS busy, with far more floor traffic and phone calls than they small team can deal with. I know how that feels! So I try to know what I want and just get to the point so I'm not wasting their time or mine. I told the guy I wanted a saw and the two I was looking at, he handed me the MS 271 and I said "I'll take it" in less than 15 seconds. He remarked that I was so easy to deal with, my response was I always researched what I'm looking at so I kind of already know what I want when I walk in the store. I also wanted the carry case and the 2-in1 chain sharpening tool along with the saw. I never ask for discount, I think it's rude to be honest. But they know I'm a contractor so they seem to always give me a good deal. This saw was no different. The MS 271 retails for $999 and the case $100, so I came prepared to spend $1100. All up, I got the saw, sharpener and case for $1050 with a free chain included, which works out to be about $147 discount and $50 under budget. We both won here, he got an easy sale, and I got a new toy........... Stihl saws have had these features for a while now, but a single action choke/run/stop lever and the tool-less fuel/oil caps add to ease of use. The 2in1 File is for quickly sharpening the teeth and depth gauge in a single step. https://www.stihl.com.au/STIHL-Produ...le-Holder.aspx The case is supplied with a replacement bar cover to allow it to slot into the body of the case. The case is also large enough to hold the supplied multitool and sharpener. When the salesman took the machine out back for it's pre-use startup, I couldn't help but smile at the sound she made, a super healthy scream. For this point onwards, I'm going to call her Aretha, as in Aretha Franklin whose voice seemed to have the ability to out scream all the others. Once I got her home, I can safely say I'm going to love using this saw. It has a little hesitancy on initial throttle application that I'm told will settle once the saw breaks in. But boy, can she rev! She has this lovely throaty growl when given full throttle that builds to a frankly hard-on inducing scream. Sorry, but I can't be the only nutjob who gets off on the sound of an angry chainsaw! NOW! I have this unnatural urge to go and chop something down! Anything! With thanks to Rallye Sport for the advice!
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So just an out of interest question, being a larger small 2 stroke, whats the fuel mix? My 37cc chainsaw is 1:50, same as my old 30cc and 25cc whippersnippers. My current 51.7cc whippersnipper is 1:40 mix. |
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Starting procedure is thus - -Squeeze the throttle and push the lever down to full choke, this holds the throttle open to a set amount. -Pull the cord until the saw coughs. (1 or two pulls usually) -Move the lever up to partial choke. -Pull the cord until the engine starts (2 or 3 pulls), then blip the throttle to bring the engine down to idle, which also cancels out the choke. -Ready to go. For the fuel mix, Stihl recommends 1:50 in all of their machines. I have been using Stihl HP Ultra synthetic oil for a long time now. This is a low smoke, clean burning oil that I have appreciated for it's low to no carbon depositing in the muffler and exhaust ports. Can't recommend it highly enough. https://www.stihl.com.au/STIHL-Produ...ngine-Oil.aspx I use that HP Ultra 1:50 fuel mix in all of my small 2-Strokes machines. For the big 160cc Victa 2-Strokes, I use the recommended 1:25 ratio and the Victa branded oil (mineral). https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/40377998...SABEgIxRvD_BwE
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Loved the link you posted with the fella slabbing that large piece of pine. Really shows what the saw will do. And you're not the only nutjob that likes the sound of a saw, flat out!
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https://www.stihl.com.au/STIHL-Produ...S-261-C-M.aspx Basically, the same 50.2cc engine as the MS 271 but with more power and a magnesium case, bringing the weight back down to 4.9 kg over the 5.6 kg of the 271. Also has a decompression valve and captive bar nuts. As mentioned though, once you go above the MS 271 in either the Landowner or Professional lines, the prices rise steeply.
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I love the long extension bar !
Had similar long ago earlier model. Yer your gonna Luv it but not the greenies!! Lol In my street in have a few of them I can sense they hate hearing me firing mine up bugga them Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Bugger the greenies! I do my bit, selling and planting plenty of trees to offset the "destruction" my chainsaw will do to the environment. And if a greenie objects, then I suggest they start walking everywhere and go live in a cave without all those things like electricity, phones, computers..................
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07-11-2022, 10:31 PM | #9 | ||
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Completely of topic Magnolia question.
I'll apologise if this isn't the right place, but it seemed to be. Teddy Bear magnolias. I have 6 magnolia trees I put in late last year doing great. All getting full sun, fertiliser, mulch. Love it. Full sun. I'm in Melbourne. I want to plant another one, but the position receives nearly full sun from later October to late April, then mostly shady from May -october. What's the chances of the plant thriving or am I better with a decidous plant like another snowball or small tree? Same problem out the front. Morning to afternoon sun in summer. Near full shade in winter. I have a few camellias doing well there, but a gun the stops the harsh sun. I'm open to ideas! |
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Another one to look at, although more of a large shrub rather than a small tree, would be Magnolia "White Caviar". I'm also a Camellia fan, so perhaps also look into Camellia Setsugekka, Camellia Plantation Pink or Camellia Hiryu.
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I also have a couple of the White Caviar ascwell. Full sun loving life lol. My mum has rediculous large camellias. All just stuck in clay soil and left alone lol This is over of them I took when it was flowering. She gave up cutting it lol. Sorry.... I should probably start my own thread! Hijacking finished |
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No primer bulb, thats inovation towards 2 strokes being dinosaur burners. My 37cc, 6 primes, usually 2 or 3 pulls full choke and it kicks. Half choke 1 pull, it starts, then pull the trigger chokes off and its good to go.
The 51.7cc snipper with its 1:40 ratio. It takes 10 pushes on the primer. It only has half choke. That thing sucks as the cord is really stiff, but, 1st time every time. That thing by brand and price should both hate itself, attempt suicide, failed at that and died from some act of god. But it hasnt. Yeah i know majority of larger 2 strokes as in mowers from my experience are 1:25. Dunno the mix on my old boat. It was a 3 cylinder evinrude 2 stroke. 60 horse carby thing. It was oil injected, so petrol went in the fuel tank, 2 stroke oil went in the oil tank, and it discombobulated the 2 to make it go. |
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From what I can gather, the Easy2Start system will only spin the engine over at a set rate. So, no matter how hard you pull the cord, the spring system will only spin the engine at a certain speed. Adding a manual primer must mitigate against this. Saws without Easy2Start are able to be turned over faster and don't need the additional help from a primer.
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what happens when, in 2 years time you trade this model in and its in better condition than a brand new letter model, runs smoother, looks cleaner, teeth are sharper.
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Are you suggesting I should bust out the polishers and do a paint correction as well?
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Researching chainsaws over the last couple of weeks, I spotted guys using a no-spill fuel containers for refueling. A few minutes on Amazon and I found what I was looking for -
https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product...age&th=1&psc=1 Why on earth did I not find something like this years ago! The concept here is that the fuel is released from the spout by a spring action button. Simply put the spout in the tank opening and GENTLY push the button to fill the tank. I say gently because pushing the button with full force this morning, the first time using it, fuel ended up spurting uncontrolled all over my machine and clean ute tray. I'm now ordering a larger 10lt version for my 4-stoke mowers.
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So they look amazing. I was a bit mind blown last time i did an oil change on my car and the 5L things of nulon oil came with a flexi spout to put on the bottle. Saved using a funnel. |
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As for those fuel tins with the plastic lift-out spouts, I had a fairly new one of those over pressurized, burst and them emptied the better part of 5 liters of fuel into the tray of my ute. I dumped them all after that.
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I wish more lawnies had them, the number of open fuel containers with the spout screwed on in the back of utes I see is astounding. It’s not like you are spewing hydrocarbons into the air needlessly or anything….
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There are just some things that Brick & Mortar shops won't bother stocking. I know it's nice to support local businesses, but it got old for me driving around trying to find things over the years. It's at the point now where I just order parts and consumables online ahead of time, rather than wasting time driving all over town looking for stuff. These two websites are good for parts - https://www.greenacresmowers.com.au/ https://www.allmowerspares.com.au/ One of those items that no one sells here is Diamond Edge trimmer line. If you are looking for a good trimmer line, one that I have found to be the best after decades of trial and error, this stuff is hard to beat. Unlike a lot of trimmer lines, this stuff is not ultra-hard and brittle, rather it's softer and more flexible. That means it wears better and doesn't seem to "chip" away. For your Husqvarna, you need the 2.4 size - https://www.greenacresmowers.com.au/...+Trimmer+Line+ https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/38313714...3ABFBMvLuRyY5h Garden bags are another item I often need to get online. The Big B sometimes have these, sometimes don't, so I just order them now. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/162992441781 This is the larger 10 liter size of that fuel can - https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/31413594...QAAOSwLNFjF4ey
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The muffler had rusted through its mounting pegs, so was attached in place with a piece of fencing wire, it would shoot blue flames as a result. The adjusting mechanism bar was welded back in place and only allowed the selection of three settings. Combine that with a variety other ailments, spending money on the lawn mower was something to be avoided.
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For the last 22 years I’ve done likewise on my Honda GV35 engine, after numerous pull cord replacements. Bought this engine in 1978 before Honda mowers were sold in Australia. Now on a Pope side delivery pressed steel chassis, second chassis, 3rd set of secondhand wheels, third set of handles, second blade disc, replaced original plastic air cleaner with an after market dry element type mounted on the handles. Only my socket is 3/4 AF. In that time only engine work was a valve grind in 1988.
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All this talk of chainsaws, Im still rocking a hand me down from Dad(RIP)an old super reliable Dolmar PS34(pre Makita interfering)16" bar, cold start is a hold it wide open and 6 pumps no choke one maybe two pulls let her idle about 30 secs ready for work... carbide chain a necessity at my place due to white ants Ive only ever cut down 2 live trees in 6 yrs here.
Also handed me down his brush cutter as well also a Dolmar Best thing about Dolmar is the colour matches me Kubota tractor
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Comedy this morning as my “helper” passed me their running chainsaw.
Just serviced, they said. First (attempted) cut revealed that whoever serviced it, put the chain on backwards and loose. Thus it burred the dogs on the chain to the point where it wouldn’t seat in the bar, so I had to lightly file these burrs off. Twenty minutes later, I was in business. |
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