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Same with if you're front door lock stuffs up and you need a new barrel, or if your water filter under the sink needs changing, Lots of maintenance stuff in the house deemed essential that an owner can do. So then they can order the parts from Bunnings and go and collect. See nothing wrong with that.
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What state would we be in if there were no states or territories just one big State called Australia!...no borders just one country, no individual Parliaments except for the Federal Government in charge!
Scott Morrison is numero uno of Australia's people, what would happen with one group of Politicians running the Covid-19 pandemic! Where would we be now!....hypothetical of course but interesting. Cheers Billy ![]() Last edited by slowsnake; 06-08-2021 at 11:34 AM. Reason: Misspelt |
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Apparently in the trials the results were that 2nd dose should be done between 4-6 weeks. 12 weeks came about due to the situation in the UK to give more people the first dose and some immunity rather than having people fully vaccinated while others were still waiting for their first.
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I had a throat infection for the past month. It was diagnosed and treated. I had a sore throat, coughing etc. I was also being tested for Covid every 3 days. Always negative. When I went to get the jab I'm sure had I been totally 'honest' I would have been turned away. I coughed a few times while waiting, and while getting the jab. No one blinked an eyelid. It's winter, people generally get the sniffles. They really need to relax their wording as it may be scaring people off getting vaccinated that really need it but had a runny nose due to just having the cold.
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Have always said, don't really care what each state decides to do in the best interest of their own residents, but when it starts endangering the rest of the country....surely you have to take some responsibility?
4 of Victoria's lock downs have been caused by interstates. 3 from one alone. Possible Virgin flight exposures relate to Sydney man who tested positive Quote:
Health authorities examine possible Sydney link to mystery case in Victoria https://www.news.com.au/national/vic...057a5864f454e4 Quote:
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Yes. as I said above. Perhaps if you have symptoms also get a recent test result? I did that but I can't recall if it was actually in the wording.
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Gladys' aim for near zero in the community is absolutely impossible yet she will be happy to destroy the state to try and prove the world how clever she is. Then blame us when it fails....
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I for one am looking forward to understanding some of the who, what, how, why decisions made at covid 19 national cabinet. Rex has had an exceptional record at winning these FOI challenges. Good on him.
Rex Patrick wins FoI case to release national cabinet records https://www.theguardian.com/australi...abinet-records Prime Minister’s office loses bid to keep Covid-19 documents secret https://www.news.com.au/national/pol...2ce748d9fb487c
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The UK are currently doing the second jab of AZ early at 8 weeks so more people are fully vaccinated. Scott Morrison has asked Sydneysiders to consider doing the same in an attempt to bring their current outbreak under contol. The Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (ATAGI) recommends 12weeks between AZ doses. The second dose can be taken as early as 4 weeks after the first but reduces effectiveness. https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2...oses/100259926
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There are currently 304 COVID-19 cases admitted to hospital, with 50 people in intensive care, 22 of whom require ventilation.
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT August 5th 2021.
Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting. 304 new cases for Australia and 5 deaths so the CMR is 2.634%. NSW set a new daily high with 268 cases. 1 new case and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 0.903%. The UK had a higher 29,825 cases yesterday and lower 86 deaths for a CMR of 2.174%. A lower 116,607 new cases in the USA yesterday and lower 658 deaths sees CMR at 1.745%. Other notable points: Global cases pass 201M, the last 1M in 2 days; Africa sets a new daily case high of 50,948; Europe passes 52M cases; Guadeloupe (4,318) - reporting weekly; Morocco (12,039); Japan (14,211); Malaysia (20,596); and Thailand (20,920) ... recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and none drop below.
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A question?… How many commenting in this thread have been impacted financially by these continual lockdowns?
Ok, I ain’t there… However, talking to family, friends etc back in Oz, the feedback I get is if you’re still getting paid, they back govco unquestionably with their lockdown rules? I spoke to a good mate last night who owns some substantial commercial property in Melbs West… he estimates he )is out of pocket well over a mil in the last 18 months with tenants unable to pay legally contracted leases… Help from Gov? Zilch! Said mate ain’t a millionaire either, he’s similar age to me (65) and has worked his ring off to get there… these properties were to be his superannuation… Stands to lose everything unless he can get new tenants.. He is absolutely beside himself with severe depression… And I’m sure there are thousands of similar stories Australia wide? So, come on, fess up… Who HERE have been financially impacted by these rules? Versus those WHO have continued to receive their weekly/monthly salaries, and wanta throw rocks at those that dare protest these previously unheard of restrictions?? I swear, it’s ONLY when it hits your own pocket that you question??
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Absolutely extending the second dose to 12 weeks is ideal but bringing it forward only resulted in a small reduction in protection. So, it could be argued that my statement was correct in that the UK was in a bad state and they saw the urgency of giving more people at least one dose was the priority over full vaccination, hence dragging out the second dose to facilitate that.
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Worked 2-3 days a week as a casual school teacher. Worked 3 shifts in the CBD as a concierge. Income was circa $1800 a week. Both stopped. Now receiving $600 a week, soon to be $750. I have a bit of emergency coin in the bank so not complaining, but living alone and not being able to see friends and family as well as work friends and my students hurts far far more than the hit to the bank balance. 7 weeks ago I applied for a refinance of one of my investment properties. All good. They called for updated payslips a few weeks ago before finalising, of which I couldn't provide. Sorry, you are now unemployed, we can no longer provide you the finance you requested. Come back to us once you're back at work. Absolute robots. Looking at other options and will move all my business to the bank that uses common sense rather than a computer to make their decisions. You bet I told them...
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A neighbour is in similar position to your mate, he could see the finish line on a small distribution hub they’re building near Penrith. No point fixing steel now, can’t get enough steelfixers or concretors, and now the copper rough-in has all been robbed. I don’t think Tim and Terry are hurting, they’re one of the few roof tiling firms not in the |
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While we debate the merits of lockdowns and their timings, let's get some perspective.
In the last 10 days, Australia has recorded 2,308 cases and 10 deaths which even though we now have case numbers above the 90th percentile (235) is still only 9.05 cases per 100k of population. Contrast that with some countries that are in real trouble over the current 10 day period. All figures are per 100k of total population: Turkey (335), Thailand (344), Portugal (360), Ireland (362), USA (368), Tunisia (376), Israel (381), Iraq (393), Iran (516), Libya (517), Kazakhstan (537), UK (560), Spain (679), Malaysia (738), Cypress (759), Georgia (1,015), Cuba (1,081) and Bangladesh (1,108).
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I am 110% for gov giving financial support to those that need it. IMHO banks should be asked to help more, e.g. halt repayments for landlords who can then pass it on to renters, or absorb some of the missing income. That will probably hit people's investment accounts incl super etc in the short term, but we can all do a bit of heavy lifting? What ticks me off is when millions are going to companies that made record profits during the pandemic. Just my take as someone who supports short sharp "stay at homes". There are some business owners who have been impacted that I know who understand its a necessary evil, and interestingly they will know of someone who has died from Covid, but you'll never hear their stories on the news.
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I know many have it worse than that, and have gone into debt or dipped into their assets or savings to keep business going. Im not in that position where im losing money... I missed out on making it. |
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I can see where ya coming from Charliewool, but, even folk like me on a disability or age pension are impacted, I just fuelled up, local BP while it was cheap!...91RON at $1-58c, only put half tank, Monday it was $1-78c.
Not sure if that is covid related or not, am sure my groceries are costing more because of covid, or greed blamed on covid! No lockdowns here in WA but prices to get stuff from interstate impacts my pension. But if I still lived and worked in Sydney I know I would be ropeable with the State Gov, and on a pension I would be ropeable to the nth degree, would be hard to survive. Cheers Billy ![]() |
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Charliewool that would make an interesting poll thread, dont want to get people further depressed and its not a competition either...this is f'd. (a small part of me is interested in the average as well given IMO the knife edge some people gear themselves at).
As it stands right now I am lucky, both wife and I are deemed "essential" so no impact to date, we are very fortunate. Haven't seen family but that's actually not much of a change but I have grandparents that are getting on and one with not long to go who at this rate I wont be able to see again. Brother has a child born 1.5 years ago overseas who he hasn't even seen in the flesh! Poor decision to procreate overseas but that's life, but I cant imagine what its like to not see your child and Australia wont let him go and the home country wont let him in! Hasn't got birth certificate signed because he physically cant get there...
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Was impacted financially last year - stayed home for two and a half months and the next month only had six days’ work, but have only lost three days this year.
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I certainly think there is an element of the level of financial impact upon people's position. But I also think it's a bit simplistic (the idea, not the person raising the idea) to say that ALL people who have been financially impacted question the lockdown logic, and therefore implicitly, those who haven't/aren't financially impacted don't question it. I think there's many other factors apart from financial impact that influence a person's views. Polyal and T3 have highlighted a couple, but here's a list of things I can think of quickly: How often you see and interact with family and friends outside of work How much your lifestyle (social interaction, sport, travel etc) has been impacted Whether you know of someone that have contracted Covid Whether someone you know has been impacted financially Dare I say it, your political views Your health status (those who consider themselves healthy are more likely to be less concerned about catching covid as opposed to those who are more at risk). The level of exposure to covid you have in your day to day life (ie someone in the medical field may be more conservative than someone who works in an industry located in the middle of nowhere) Where you live and the level of exposure which accompanies that. I'm sure there's many, many more. Financial impact would be just one factor of many, IMHO.
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My business is down 23% in profits last financial year. I usually make an increase in profit at least matching CPI. I have received some compensation from State and Federal governments in the form of Business Costs Assistance Program and Job Keeper. In return I have stopped all work (and all income) during lockdowns. I don't believe lockdowns are a situation unique to Australian businesses. Many countries in the world are having lockdowns few if any are compensating businesses as generously as Australian governments, both State and Federal. (We can argue that governments borrowing money to prop up business during lockdowns creates a debt for future generations to deal with). The reason lockdowns are happening all over the world is to try and deal with the Covid-19 pandemic. I believe a better question would be, “How many commenting in this thread have been impacted financially by the Covid-19 pandemic?” Without lockdowns Covid-19 would have still had a huge impact on the Australian economy. Would a different approach been better financially for people like your mate? Without knowing what that approach looked like it’s difficult to say. What is certain is the medical outcomes for Australia would have been far worse, especially if russellw figures are anywhere near correct.(I'm sure they are!) I'm very sorry to hear about your mate and agree their will be others in the same boat. It is up to all of us, through taxation and government to make sure people like your mate are looked after. He should start by talking with business representatives and his local member.
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Not Fn funny witnessing an outgoing person who had for zest of life withdrawing into themselves. So yes the impact on small businesses is devastating to say the least. I can honestly say I understand why people are protesting against the governments decisions at times whether right or wrong. |
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Mention muppetry, get muppetry.
Had the first jab in June, booked the second jab for next week. Go to guvvy website to confirm - nothing there. Call the info line - no appointment. Stupid stupid people. I’m a busy man and don’t have time for idiocy. |
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