Let's discuss diesel... - Page 4

dunga · 11-03-2018, 07:20 PM

Hyundai is working on a hydrogen powered car right now its no different to any other high pressure flammable gas no doubt there is more risk with petrol the only thing stoping hydrogen more than likely is government deals done with ethanol producers and oil companies.

roKWiz · 11-03-2018, 07:25 PM

I remember some hydrogen government buses getting around Sydney for awhile, don't know how that went.

dunga · 11-03-2018, 07:46 PM

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I remember some hydrogen government buses getting around Sydney for awhile, don't know how that went.

I don't live in Sydney but do they run on compressed natural gas maybe they did do hydrogen conversions someone might know .

**Ross 1** · 11-03-2018, 07:52 PM

Problem solved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgWHbpMVQ1U

**solarite_guy** · 11-03-2018, 07:26 PM

Honda at one point had a program in place to produce hydrogen powered cars. A problem with hydrogen that was different than other high pressure gasses was its tendency to "leak" through containers at a certain rate over time. Have you heard any information about that?

yearby · 11-03-2018, 08:55 PM

Only problem with the Hindenburg disaster is why all the black smoke, hydrogen don't burn like that. If it was only hydrogen burning all you would get would be H2O (water) not black soot, that means some type of Hydro-carbon is burning??????????????

**DJR-351** · 11-03-2018, 09:55 PM

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Only problem with the Hindenburg disaster is why all the black smoke, hydrogen don't burn like that. If it was only hydrogen burning all you would get would be H2O (water) not black soot, that means some type of Hydro-carbon is burning??????????????

No real mystery there, no doubt a lot of hydrocarbons used in the construction going up in flames, i believe the gas cells where made out of a type of latex for one

arronm · 12-03-2018, 01:35 AM

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No real mystery there, no doubt a lot of hydrocarbons used in the construction going up in flames, i believe the gas cells where made out of a type of latex for one

Um. Diesel fuel for the engines.

**DJR-351** · 12-03-2018, 01:57 AM

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Um. Diesel fuel for the engines.

um. That an much more!

yearby · 12-03-2018, 07:42 AM

Well their your go, something new for me. Too much reading all at once for me, will try again later.

XRtowcar · 12-03-2018, 09:09 AM

A timely article in Time magazine about diesel.

Thousands of people die prematurely each year in Germany from the harmful effects of nitrogen dioxide, a gas that’s produced by diesel engines, according to a government-sponsored report published Thursday.

The study commissioned by the Federal Office for the Environment concluded that almost 6,000 people died prematurely in 2014 from illnesses that are known to be caused or aggravated by nitrogen dioxide, or NO2.

**buggerlugs** · 13-03-2018, 09:34 AM

Oh look. Hulk'y is back............

OzJavelin · 13-03-2018, 09:59 AM

Diesel emissions ....... well, could be worse ..

* Disclaimer: I own and regularly ride a couple of two stroke motorbikes ;)

HIPO · 13-03-2018, 11:10 AM

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Diesel emissions ....... well, could be worse ..

* Disclaimer: I own and regularly ride a couple of two stroke motorbikes ;)

lol, I remember the smoke-screen from my H1.......

**solarite_guy** · 13-03-2018, 11:43 AM

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Diesel emissions ....... well, could be worse ..

* Disclaimer: I own and regularly ride a couple of two stroke motorbikes ;)

That green 500cc triple was my first bike, except it was the darker green.

RHR · 13-03-2018, 10:59 AM

https://youtu.be/RybNI0KB1bg

Vesper Martini · 13-03-2018, 01:58 PM

Clearly those narcotics cause a bit of narcissism

marty351 · 13-03-2018, 03:54 PM

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burnz · 15-03-2018, 06:01 PM

I'm getting cancer just reading this thread..

roddy1960 · 15-03-2018, 09:51 PM

In reality diesels are here for a fair while yet . just how it is .

Maybe those who get knocked around by it riding bikes and where ever else might need to read this and buy something like these...

https://www.safetysolutions.net.au/c...ate--877429110

Life is full of compromises , health issues and challenges but so indeed is reality.

au350hp · 15-03-2018, 10:32 PM

Still trying to work out whats worse. Diesel or sharing the roads with drug fuelled maniacs

EDManual · 15-03-2018, 11:37 PM

I saw some interesting fact the other week, something like 5 ships emit as much as all the diesel vehicles in france!..

EDManual · 15-03-2018, 11:39 PM

, found this ; the 15 biggest ships produce more sulfur oxide pollutants than all the cars in the world.

lovford · 16-03-2018, 12:57 PM

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, found this ; the 15 biggest ships produce more sulfur oxide pollutants than all the cars in the world.

Yes I have known this for some time, more people die in Hong Kong than all other pollutants combined. The **** can be seen in the shipping lanes from space. The poorer the countries the more sulphur they use. Australia want let ships in if there using over a certain % of Sulphur.

roKWiz · 16-03-2018, 05:33 PM

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Australia won't let ships in if there using over a certain % of Sulphur.

Yet I passed a British nuclear powered and armed warship on the Manly ferry last Saturday.
Wonder where all the Greenies were ?

lovford · 16-03-2018, 08:19 PM

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Yet I passed a British nuclear powered and armed warship on the Manly ferry last Saturday.
Wonder where all the Greenies were ?

Everything in Australia should be nuclear powered. No emissions. Its ridiculous we have only one nuc power station. And our 50 billion dollar subs will be petrol driven. What a calamity, Nuc powered subs can stay under water indefinitely only surfacing for food. Our ****ty subs must surface for fuel and air and there three times easier to detect by sub killers. Second worse 50 billion spent by our dumb **** pollies after the stupid **** disastrous NBN.

pottery beige · 16-03-2018, 08:25 PM

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Everything in Australia should be nuclear powered. No emissions. Its ridiculous we have only one nuc power station. And our 50 billion dollar subs will be petrol driven. What a calamity, Nuc powered subs can stay under water indefinitely only surfacing for food. Our ****ty subs must surface for fuel and air and there three times easier to detect by sub killers. Second worse 50 billion spent by our dumb **** pollies after the stupid **** disastrous NBN.

dunga · 17-03-2018, 07:08 AM

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Everything in Australia should be nuclear powered. No emissions. Its ridiculous we have only one nuc power station. And our 50 billion dollar subs will be petrol driven. What a calamity, Nuc powered subs can stay under water indefinitely only surfacing for food. Our ****ty subs must surface for fuel and air and there three times easier to detect by sub killers. Second worse 50 billion spent by our dumb **** pollies after the stupid **** disastrous NBN.

would that be 98 octane petrol powered submarines??? or cant we say that filthy word DIESEL there I said it now stone me.

DRU842 · 17-03-2018, 11:15 AM

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Everything in Australia should be nuclear powered. No emissions. Its ridiculous we have only one nuc power station. And our 50 billion dollar subs will be petrol driven.

Lovford, you seem to let a lot of emotion cloud your 'facts' and therefore undermine your overall argument e.g. Australia has NO nuclear power station, we have a world class research reactor, producing medical isotopes (exported globally) and particles for scientific study http://www.ansto.gov.au/AboutANSTO/OPAL/index.htm and our new submarines will be diesel / electric https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collin...cement_project with the remote possibility of the last few version to be nuclear powered.
Please include some links, with referenced studies, to cover some of your statements. It would go a long way to improving your standing with the group.

Vesper Martini · 19-03-2018, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lovford

Everything in Australia should be nuclear powered. No emissions.

Everything

Nuclear powers cars now? wonder what sort of airbags need to be fitted.

I do agree we should have Nuclear powers stations though