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Have never understood the fuss re what someone pays or not for whatever when it comes to cars or anything else to be fair,there money there passion so good luck to em,if indeed i was fortunate enough to have a lazy 1/2 mill sitting about i would spend however much of it i had to to buy the nicest XW GT (in green please) i could find,for many the car itself means far more than the money and if there lucky enough to have deep pockets then good on them for paying whatever they have to to get the car the want.
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That said, the VN was apparently a bit of a stretch... of an opel. *boom tish* Ok, i'll get my coat now. ![]() |
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Obviously it made the successful bidder happy, and it is his cabbage to spend as he wants, I reckon we all been too hard, we should congratulate them not critique them!...
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Next thing you know the auction houses will be saying a stock VN Executive will be worth $1 million. Seems like everything that they are getting now gets the old "it could go for up to $1 million". Just stfu and stop trying to force the prices higher than what they really are. The market determines the value, not you auctioneer flogs.
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But it's not worth $340k according to some..
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I think that's why we see so many replicas, XY phase 3, E49 Chargers etc, etc, are they really worth asking prices, but auctioneers are good at what they do, even if it seems criminal to any honest person, its unethical at least!
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The VN Group A SS was considered a desirable car over 20yrs.
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There's the transaction price, so that's the value for that point in time. Mark it on the candlestick chart for that car.
By VN, I'm on the scene and I kinda like cars, old enough to be aware of them now. My uncle had the harsh sounding V6 and felt tinny on the doors, but it was very economical and had this crazy habit of going sideways if foot was planted too deeply on takeoff. EA-B at same time felt a bit more solid/smooth? But had their problems. 6 year old ED was our own first family car, great car, smooth and refined. I still like th eEcotec VSs.
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It's still like that. Last commo I had was a 2006 VZ and they still felt tinny with the doors. E series falcons always felt more solid and the b series is better than that compared to the VZ in that regard (and hvac, trip computer and cruise too).
Early VNs had fairly brutal tuning and were burnout specials and so much faster compared to e series though. Later on holden tamed down their tuning to get better economy but even before that the commo was better on fuel too. There was a high speed commo crash here in perth a long time ago (that no one in any car would have survived), but it was peeled down the side just like you think those commo doors would peel every time you shut the door on one. Every time I jumped in the VZ I was reminded about that... Anyway, didn't like the VZ, nor the vr/vs mates had, or the vp, and if the vz had the same interior etc as vx I wouldn't like them either. VT I think was the one they copied old BMW suspension and if I wanted camber/lowering problems I'd buy the old BMW. The statesmans have some interest to me though, the VN based VQ I think is that one I liked 25 years ago when I first saw it. E: yeah, the VQ caprice Last edited by oldel; 02-08-2021 at 11:10 PM. |
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Worst part about the VN GPA was the VN body shell, with some kms on them they creak and rattle, not very well made compared to the more solid falcon, but they were light and the GPA had a heap of power with potential for loads more, they also had big brakes, first 6 speed trans, narrow diff to mount larger wheels and of course the massive induction setup, they are pretty far removed from a regular VN or any other HSV at the time as you can get and it's not hard to see why they're desired, there's not too many tidy examples around as loads were stolen and stripped for parts
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The VN Group A for its time was cutting edge.
It is every bit as desirable as a Phase 3. For Holden to put an Australian designed and developed product up against basically the best that Japan and Europe had to offer was incredibly ballsy and is to be commended. No they are not worth a million dollars. I can't see them being that ever. It's not like there was multiple colour schemes so there could be rarity. Plus they were sold as something special to begin with. I don't think you will find anyone has ever driven a VN Group A across a paddock or gone shooting out of it unlike a phase 3. By the time they are the same age as a Phase 3 , the mystique of the Australian muscle car will be gone. I used to despise the Holden scene due to the amount of 1 eyed flogs in it that didn't have the brain capacity to look past a badge. Unfortunately I have come to realise the exact same caliber of people are in the Ford scene as well. |
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there’s no way the Falcon’s BTR could launch as well with a 2.39:1 first gear. You’d need 3.9 or 4.11 gears to get the same launch but once underway, the VN V6 would struggle a bit more than the Falcon with kick down overtaking |
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Fiji 'that troll bloke' who been on forums since the start of time. No threads or posts relating to their own car (probably doesn't own anything you'd want to share on AFF), no technical assistance anywhere, no proper insight in to anything where people would get along and agree with it - just flat out fake stories and trolling. Surprised the name doesn't come in red-lettering yet. Only a matter of time.
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The car will sell for what it is "worth" to the buyer.
Who cares what I, you or anyone else thinks otherwise. People pay what they believe any car is "worth" to them. Strange thread as literally everything we buy has exactly the same premise. |
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Besides, my guy looked at that $1m+ house and valued it at about $180k based on the cost of bricks, tiles and gyprock. Should have given him the proxy to bid - he would put in a bid 90% below reserve and walk away. |
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I wouldn't call trolling, running down people's pride and joys over the years and constant bans contributing more than most. A lot of us have been a member here long enough to know what your contributions are all about. How many different names have you gone under now?
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