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The catch is that to be raced in those championships, Nissan would have to Homologate a RWD version of the GT-R, possibly with an N/A V8 engine. Basically they'd have to do an Analog of the Audi R8 LMS edition.
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I dnt know what there is to hate about them. Ive been blessed enough to have a go in one of these beats and it was pure bliss! Id own a R35 no questions asked.
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They race them in a U.S series against Porsche's, Mazda's, Ford GT's, Corvettes etc
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Just those are who as said "hellbent" on thinking it's completely indestructible Quote:
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The cars are fine, but they aren't simply the best, and this is what I'm getting at with people basically saying they are.
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Nothing is completely indestructible given a creatively abusive operator...
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If the GT-R had a ferrari badge on it, it would be hailed as the best car ever with a million dollar price tag. The only stigma in this thread is people can't see beyond the nissan badge. |
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I dnt know what there is to hate about them.
The Average waynekers that own them .
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already done, there is a GT class GT-R, with a 5.6V8...the same block that will be used in the supercars...
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But what I'm trying to say anyway is that most GTR fans will go "Oh nothing beats a R35 in a drag race for it's price" I go get an XR6T mod it, done.. They then say "Oh well, that doesn't mean anything, for the price and from a stand still using the R35's AWD system, you have nothing" XR6T modded does what, 10 down the quarter for less then 90k, or I believe in Australia 140k... Then it goes to "Oh well R35 is best around the track for it's price" And yeah sure that's true, but I don't believe anyone has modded any cars to try and contest that claim. This is just an attitude I see towards it. And previously said, a lot of them will argue "Modded vs Stock" but then when it's a Modded Skyline vs Bugatti, it's all "Bugatti is slow, why pay a million dollars when a Skyline beats it" without having any knowledge of the differences in the cars... Suppose it just frustrates me there is numb skulls who only see their side whether or not it's truth.
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This whole thing about, "You can get an XR6T to do a 10 second quarter for under $90k." Who cares? I can buy a Datsun 120Y shell and put a chook cooker in it and run 9's for under $20k.
I think the stigma attached to the car tends to come from the bad eggs who drive them, and the youtube fan boys are just that, youtube fan boys. Most aren't even old enough to drive yet, and the ones that are, are ignorant enough to form an opinion of a car they most likely have not even driven! |
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I'd hate to see what you'd have to do to something like a Falcadore though to get it up to that sort of speed and durability.
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There's a video on youtube of an American car review place trying to beat a stock GTR with an Evo 10 (modified) around Willow Springs I think. From memory they got pretty close with some simple mods. |
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Probably need a cage to increase the rigidity so i'd guess you may as well take out the back seats..... You'd need a *lot* of suspension work...possibly a trans-axle gear box.... And if its either an I6 or a 5.4Litre you'd need and alloy block. Basically you'd probably end up with a race-car that has cost at least as much to build as the GT-R would cost to buy...and no where near as functional.
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Walk down the street with a Holden T-Shirt on and you're bound to cop it from the arrogant Ford fan-boys. It's how it is every where.
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Just for interests sake, here's the video of the GT-R vs Evo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdpBvLlWbXE On the Evo they upgraded: turbo, intercooler, cams, exhaust, brakes, wheels, suspension. Block, head, transmission, diffs etc all stick untouched. Evo came to within 0.10s around Willow Springs. |
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You cannot reason with YouTube commenters. They are a different breed. They think they know everything.
This forum has got to be the most open minded car forum I have seen. Most the people here who love fords can also appreciate other cars which is great. I know there are a few hardcore ford fans here who think every Ford ever made is amazing while every other car sucks, but in the end that is thier loss. |
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@Nic Wow that evo barely had anything internal touched, and a lot more, and they wouldn't touch ride height? when it could definitely go lower and stiffer and still be practical. Not bad.
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So, as i said before, There is a R35 GT1 (fully FIA sanctioned), powered by the Vk56DE that will form the base for the V8 supercar engine. a different car then the Gt500 monster, powered by the smaller Vk engine... ![]() http://www.gtrblog.com/2009/04/06/fi...ions-revealed/
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it`s like anything , there`s plenty of tall poppy syndrome out there, if an F6 or GT or a HSV did the 0 to 60 in 2 seconds there would be just as many haters out there singing praises for something else and bagging them.
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But I'm not sure about around the track results.
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however, with a less experienced driver, in slightly slippery conditions, the awd should have a distinct advantage around a twisty track the awd should be king |
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For me, I batted hard for what I considered the high powered, high traction Aussie 4 door car epitomy, my Terminator.... what the GT-R did was make me realise that I was just a shotgun wielding, two-bit zealot hick with my eyes and ears closed to most what was going on around me.... the GT-R is a such a revelation..... anyone that has been shotgun (or driven) my AU knows I am qualified to speak at this level. Quote:
"Best daily car ever....." Sure, at what budget... but we are talking up to 750K cars here at 1/5 the price, so not only do I agree with his statement, but it has also forced me to look hard at what I have owned/built/raced up to this point in time.... considering I pushed that much money into each of my Fords! Quote:
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Also, to the OP..... FWIW I agree there are plenty of fanboys out there that $h!t me off too.
The GT-R is worth batting for, but blind allegience is exactly that. Daniel |
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The ONLY problem I had with your reply to me is that turning traction control off apparently voids warranty? through a black box? I'd totally own one, but I would blind bat it when I'm defending it, same as I don't blind bat it when I'm defending Ford. It'd be a nice car to drive around, better fuel efficiency then my current car 0.o And basically faster then anything on the road in this town. But yeah I can definitely say some of those people give me frustration issues lol.
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