Covid 19 -

[FairmontGS]

WA COVID update reveals how the hotel quarantine security guard may have acquired the virus

WA Premier Mark McGowan told reporters on Tuesday that genomic testing had linked the guard’s case to that of two recently returned overseas travellers at the Sheraton Four Points Hotel.

“One of those recent arrivals was accommodated on the same floor as the security guard was working.

“We are advised that the guards did deliver medication to the door of this particular quarantine guest.

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/healt...irus-c-2078468

[EgoFG]

So what is the general consensus in Australia on asymptomatic transfer of covid-19 ?

I have seen two studies
One said the rate of transfer was 1% for asymptomatic, and 6% for symptomatic, pre-symptomatic were 7% (Dec-July I am not sure but it looks like they studied only 1000 cases)
"Defining the role of asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 transmission - a living systematic review"

The other said the rate of transfer was 0.7% for asymptomatic, and 28% for symptomatic, I assume pre-symptomatic were included in one of these two figures. (Dec-Oct, over 77000 cases studied, analysis of those in the same household).
"Household Transmission of SARS-C0V-2: A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis"

This implies that, unless I am reading this incorrectly, people with asymptomatic covid-19 are somewhere between 1/6th and 1/30th as contagious as those with symptoms (- likely closer to the smaller figure).

[FairmontGS]

Captain Sir Tom Moore, who raised $57 million for the NHS, dies aged 100 after contracting coronavirus

Key points:

• Captain Sir Tom Moore raised more than $57 million for Britain's National Health Service during the first wave of the pandemic
• Sir Tom had been battling pneumonia for several weeks and had tested positive for COVID-19
• The Queen has sent a private message of condolence to his family

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-...hs-uk/13110834

[davenl5l]

So died of pneumonia and old age then

[Work Horse]

Originally Posted by davenl5l

So died of pneumonia and old age then

No Sir Tom died with Covid-19.

If the UK had dealt with the pandemic; better, earlier Sir Tom may still be with us.

The internet is full of conspiracy theories that the death toll from Covid-19 is over stated and only old people with one foot in the grave die.

This particular burden on society raised 60 million pounds for charity and earned himself a knighthood in his 99th year.

Sir Tom also raised the spirits of many in his country in a time of deep despair.

Not bad for someone who was going to die anyway.

RIP Sir Tom.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Originally Posted by Work Horse

No Sir Tom died with Covid-19.

If the UK had dealt with the pandemic; better, earlier Sir Tom may still be with us.

The internet is full of conspiracy theories that the death toll from Covid-19 is over stated and only old people with one foot in the grave die.

This particular burden on society raised 60 million pounds for charity and earned himself a knighthood in his 99th year.

Sir Tom also raised the spirits of many in his country in a time of deep despair.

Not bad for someone who was going to die anyway.

RIP Sir Tom.

[davenl5l]

Originally Posted by Work Horse

No Sir Tom died with Covid-19.

If the UK had dealt with the pandemic; better, earlier Sir Tom may still be with us.

The internet is full of conspiracy theories that the death toll from Covid-19 is over stated and only old people with one foot in the grave die.

This particular burden on society raised 60 million pounds for charity and earned himself a knighthood in his 99th year.

Sir Tom also raised the spirits of many in his country in a time of deep despair.

Not bad for someone who was going to die anyway.

RIP Sir Tom.

With not of

[Polyal]

So the bigger issue brewing are the legalities of the jab...this one is going to be a doozey.

On a personal level I will wait it out as long as I can, but the time will come when I am sure work will push it or I will want to travel. In that case I will comply.

Will be interesting to see how it plays out for those who "cant" due to other medical issues...

We are lucky in that we can sit it out for a bit longer than other countries.

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT February 2nd, 2021.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting.

6 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR is 3.154%.

3 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.084% and active cases 72.

The UK had 16,840 cases yesterday and 1,467 deaths.

Just over 129.5k new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,915 deaths sees CMR down to 1.688%. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
Global cases pass 104M, the last 1M in 3 days;
Global deaths pass 2.25M, the last 50k in 4 days;
The USA passes 27M cases;
South America passes 16M cases.

Only:

Albania (942)

... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

[FairmontGS]

Berejiklian lobbies for NSW quarantine staff to get vaccine first, foreshadows venue limits easing

NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian wants NSW’s quarantine workers at the front of the queue for the national COVID vaccine rollout, arguing the state carries the greatest burden of the virus by accepting the lion’s share of returning overseas travellers.

Asked about the vaccine rollout at a press conference on Wednesday morning, Ms Berejiklian said if NSW was to continue managing the most risk of coronavirus transmission, its quarantine workers should be some of the first in line for the vaccine.

“Obviously, it’s a national rollout and every citizen has the right, you know, according to their category to be treated respectfully and equally ... all I’m saying is if some states are bringing in more Australians than others, obviously that carries risk with it, and we’ve always borne that risk,” she said.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/...03-p56z2h.html

[russellw]

It's been a little while since we looked at which countries have been struggling this last few weeks.

The numbers below look at cases per 100k of total population over the last 14 days.

North America: USA 689 and Panama 454. Only Mexico and El Salvador peaked during the last 14 days.

Europe: Portugal 1,617; Spain 997; Montenegro 995; Czechia 881; Slovenia 827; UK and Latvia both 568 and Estonia 536. Only Portugal and Spain reached a peak in the last 14 days.

South America: Colombia 345; Brazil 334 and Chile 298. Only Bolivia reached a peak during the last 14 days.

Africa: Tunisia 228; Cabo Verde 182; South Africa 172 and Libya 145. Ghana, Nigeria, Mozambique and the Ivory Coast all reached a peak during the last 14 days.

[Burnout]

In a release tonight Vic Health announced that a Hotel Worker had tested positive to Woo Flu.
Looks like Melbourne may be locked up again, if the Govt there is true to form.

[Mr_G6ET]

Originally Posted by Burnout

In a release tonight Vic Health announced that a Hotel Worker had tested positive to Woo Flu.
Looks like Melbourne may be locked up again, if the Govt there is true to form.

So from WA, isn't it 'poor' that we still fall over on lessons learned from other states. SOS, now the WA govt says now the guards outside the door must wear PPE !

[Citroënbender]

I was most surprised they were allowed to have more than one job.

[Mr_G6ET]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

I was most surprised they were allowed to have more than one job.

Our WA Govt was 'bullish' but clearly has 'some' holes in policy

[Rallye Sport]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

I was most surprised they were allowed to have more than one job.

They've learned nothing from it either, my streets been awash with a certain food delivery service this evening, yet my job has been deemed non essential so I'm sitting on my **** at home.
I'll keep following the directions but I' am feeling a little disillusioned right now.

[Work Horse]

Originally Posted by Burnout

In a release tonight Vic Health announced that a Hotel Worker had tested positive to Woo Flu.
Looks like Melbourne may be locked up again, if the Govt there is true to form.

Link?

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Work Horse

Link?

The Age. I reckon snap lock down like Brissy and Perth. One positive, I was due to go back to office next Monday, hopefully that now gets canned

[MITCHAY]

No lockdown. Masks mandatory in public indoor spaces, house limit reduced from 30 to 15, and lifting the return to work cap paused. Effective 11:59pm tonight.

[T3rminator]

Got it from Aus Open hotel. Last day of work on the 29th tested negative. Subsequently felt ill and tested positive on 2nd Feb. Attended a CFA function in the mean time. Sutton just mentioned that his test result showed HIGH viral load, so it is likely close contacts will have it

Surprised no snap lockdown.

[cs123]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Surprised no snap lockdown.

I hope they try and manage it rather than a lock down. Let's turn off a city for 5 days is pretty dramatic.

I think they have their processes down now to stay on top.

[PG2]

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[FairmontGS]

Originally Posted by PG2

PLEASE DON'T IGNORE

Stop pointing your fingers at each other - some of the people doing the finger pointing are just as bad!

Calling other members an idiot or similar will not be tolerated.

If there is any further name calling you will be having a break from AFF to think about your posting style.



THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER WARNINGS. THERE WILL BE NO EXCEPTIONS. IT WILL NOT MATTER IF YOU ARE A 10 YEAR MEMBER WITH AN IMPECCABLE HISTORY ON AFF.


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Just FYI, yes, I have had enough.

I'm 15 year so I'll assume the above warning doesn't apply

Tennis Zeke sure got around with his mates and part-time jobs. It's times like this I realise how boring my life is...

https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/case-loc...21SNg1VqQ0tRB0

[FairmontGS]

'500-600 people': Australian Open events called off after positive test

Six Australian Open warmup events have been postponed and up to 600 people have been forced to isolate after a hotel quarantine worker tested positive for COVID-19 in Melbourne.

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/australi...aDit6-I6hvT4lP

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

'500-600 people': Australian Open events called off after positive test

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/australi...aDit6-I6hvT4lP

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Am I the only person who chuckled about this?

Olympics will be in some strife if we cant contain a fraction of the numbers for tennis.

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Am I the only person who chuckled about this?

Olympics will be in some strife if we cant contain a fraction of the numbers for tennis.

Well if they can set up a bubble, as Vic has done, then it shouldn't be a problem. Currently there is no impact to the main event. Remember AO had to be pushed back this year to allow the quarantine and bubble to happen.

I did have a chuckle about the "no singing and no chanting" rule announced by the Olympic Committee today.

[Citroënbender]

An Aussie crowd would mock that right away.

“Whadda we want?”
- No chanting!

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

An Aussie crowd would mock that right away.

“Whadda we want?”
- No chanting!

Lucky for them aussies won't be allowed to leave the country to attend

Curious to know how many other countries are preventing their citizens and residents from leaving the country.

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT February 3rd, 2021.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting.

5 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR is 3.153%.

1 new case and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.083% and active cases 61.

The UK had 19,202 cases yesterday and 1,322 deaths.

Just over 121.5k new cases in the USA yesterday and 3,707 deaths sees CMR up to 1.694%. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
North America passes 31M cases.

Only:

Albania (1,007); and
UAE (3,977)

... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

The global adult CMR sits at 2.17% but that is likely understated given the inaccuracies in mortalities for countries like India and Russia.

Amongst the countries we watch in detail; Brazil (2.437%), the UK (2.824%), Belgium (2.968%), Australia (3.153%), Italy (3.476%) and Peru (3.586%) are all above the average while New Zealand (1.083%), India (1.434%), the USA (1.701%), Switzerland (1.732%) and Russia (1,914%) are all below the average although there are big question marks over the figures for both India and Russia.

It's widely reported that the real Russian figure is understated by about 130k, making the real figure close to 200k deaths rather than the 'official' 74k figure and this would make their adult CMR over 5%.

[FairmontGS]

People in NSW forced into isolation over Victoria outbreak

Planes are being held up at Sydney Airport for screening and five people in NSW are being forced into isolation after they stayed at a Victorian hotel where the UK variant has spread between guests.

The five people were staying at Melbourne’s Park Royal Hotel where it is believed the virus jumped from a hotel room to a guest in the opposite room.

https://www.news.com.au/world/corona...808afe4e1f3235