Malaysian Airways Flight 370

[ltd]

Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

I was thinking just that (the anus was a touch too comedic), but it was posted early yesterday.

I wonder what "RingTone" he had on his Iphone 5?

Sorry, I stand to be corrected but all of this speculative conspiracy stuff is right up there with the "truther" movement.
For starters, every nation which had a radar return of the aircraft would have to be in on it, and frankly most of them deep down hate each other and would have nothing to gain by cooperating in one of the worlds biggest mysteries.

By now, most of the wreckage would have sunk and realistically, it may take several months to locate it. The area really is that huge. Look at Air France 447, it took 2 years to find.

[nstg8a]

I read another conspiracy theory that it's being held as a weapon to be unleashed during g20.
I might have to take that time off work and sit on the balcony at home. With the cameras set up, il have a grandstand view I reckon.

[redxm]

Has anyone bothered to check what the numerous weather satellites may have seen.

The United States Department of Defense's Meteorological Satellite (DMSP) can "see" the best of all weather vehicles with its ability to detect objects almost as 'small' as a huge oil tanker. In addition, of all the weather satellites in orbit, only DMSP can "see" at night in the visual.

They do a lap couple times a day..

[2011G6E]

Originally Posted by cheap

Remember JFK's "magic bullet" which Oswald fired which apparently defied physics with its trajectory and ability to harm multiple people. Recent analysis suggests that a secret service agent in his haste to protect JFK from further harm accidentally discharged his weapon which then fatally hit JFK. The magic bullet suited the needs of the secret service to cover up their incompetence - I don't think anyone would disagree that there's been incompetence dished out in spades during the dribble of news re MH370. For example, for this theory to be plausible it would mean Malaysia allowing an unidentified aircraft to fly unchallenged right through it's airspace?

Nope. Nope nope nope. The "magic bullet" was no such thing, and is a simple mistake by people who don't know about the seating arrangements in a Lincoln limousine. Connelly was sitting on a small jump seat which is located inboard from the edge of the car, and to the left of the president, on a much lower level close to the floor...not, as shown in diagrams, directly in front of the president on the same level. Very simple explanation shown by re-enactments using the identical type of car...some early re-enactments used a different type of car, one of the cars used in some films was even a Cadillac instead of a Lincoln.

But back to reality...yes, there has been staggering incompetence by Malaysia in this. They're simply not used to people demanding they turn over all they know NOW. The government there is used to keeping a tight hold on information and telling the public what they want, when they think the public needs to know it. They're used to being in total information control, and suddenly they have the worlds media, the regions governments, and the regions militaries all demanding information right now, as soon as possible, as accurately as possible. This confuses the hell out of Malaysia.

[CJR09]

Originally Posted by ltd

Look at Air France 447, it took 2 years to find.

only two years for the black boxes though want it? thought they found wreckage of that after only 5 days?

[Brent]

Apparently the vast amount of sea flotsam and junk is at least partly responsible for a great deal of the satellite images that have been looked at thus far. Probably explains why there has been conflicting stories of various satellites locating what we thought were debris fields in multiple locations.

I really do doubt the conspiracy theories and cover-up stories. Throughout history the human race has excelled at making mistakes, buggering things up, and then learing from the experience. I honestly believe that for all the wonderful stories of big brother, we are more than capable of losing stuff, in this case a plane, and basically having NFI as to what happened until evidence is found and the parts of the puzzle painstakingly put back together to arrive at an educated explanation.

The plane having gone down is a given. Exactly where, in an expanse of remote ocean of the scale we're talking, is the issue. I honestly think that nobody really knows.

[Madaya]

cheap, lets not deviate from this important thread. The JFK assassination is world unto itself. We must stay focused on 370. pm if you wish

[csv8]

An interesting question posted on another site. Why are there no Muslim nations helping in the search? Surely, other Muslim nations should help Islamic Malaysia ?? eg : Indonesia has a large airforce and navy >The six nations involved in the search are all Christian......

[Garp560]

Look... The Indian Ocean is a big place and the weather unpredictable. The search could have been sped up by involving internet computer users. Small tracts of satellite imagery could have been sent to volunteers who would have checked their area for floating material on the water. Those who found things could have reported the siting, this could have been checked, confirmed and the search area reduced.
Weather changes daily so repeat viewing of sites on the same, and following days by different viewers, would have increased the chance of identifying possible sites.
Ships and planes are expensive assets. Even the families of those on board could have helped in the search, plus thousands of internet users.
Come on world - think clever.

[FPVS3]

Originally Posted by csv8

An interesting question posted on another site. Why are there no Muslim nations helping in the search? Surely, other Muslim nations should help Islamic Malaysia ?? eg : Indonesia has a large airforce and navy >The six nations involved in the search are all Christian......

Darn good post!

[FPVS3]

Originally Posted by CJR09

only two years for the black boxes though want it? thought they found wreckage of that after only 5 days?

Even after 2 years the recorders on AF447 told everything, ie the aircraft was held in a stalled condition all the way to the surface.

[FPVS3]

Originally Posted by Garp560

Ships and planes are expensive assets. Even the families of those on board could have helped in the search, plus thousands of internet users.
Come on world - think clever.

And imagine the cost of running the Brit nuclear sub, perhaps they could write it off as just another exercise. Will be interesting to see what it can come up with.

[ltd]

Originally Posted by CJR09

only two years for the black boxes though want it? thought they found wreckage of that after only 5 days?

They only found some surface debris such as the carbon fibre tail fin after 5 days. It crashed on 1st June 2009.
It wasn't until 3rd April 2011 that the aircraft was located.
They also found 2 bodies in the water strapped to their seat, bodies that would have gained buoyancy as they start to rot and fill with gas, then after a couple of days when the gas is released through further rotting they would have sunk again.
This time period for MH370's passengers has passed and unsecured bodies that would have ascended the wreckage would have descended yet again.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by csv8

An interesting question posted on another site. Why are there no Muslim nations helping in the search? Surely, other Muslim nations should help Islamic Malaysia ?? eg : Indonesia has a large airforce and navy >The six nations involved in the search are all Christian......

Indonesia may have the numbers but not the technology.

China, a Christian nation?

[xxx000]

so religion somehow gets a mention in discussions re search for a downed aircraft

that's really pushing the boundaries

[CoupeKing]

Well the towed pinger and bluefin underwater surveyor should be operating in the newest search area, along with HMS Tireless and HMS Echo, so there`s no shortage of technology in the hunt.In this instance I think Inmarsat are gradually calculating on an entry point and have gladly shared that info with the respective authorities. I see that the satellite pictures have ceased, even though they would have repositioned numerous times.

Strange that a Submarine has joined the search, they`re usually ever so secretive about their locations. Anyway Both the Echo and Tireless have advanced sonar equipment on board that will either detect the ping, spot a debris field or a partially intact plane on the ocean floor. If its mountainous terrain, search could take a while,lol. I guess with the sub, they dont have to worry about weather or refueling as they can pretty much stay down there indefinitely.

[nstg8a]

For the sake of keeping the thread open I think we should ignore the religious side of the debate.

[Trump]

Originally Posted by ltd

I wonder what "RingTone" he had on his Iphone 5?

I think it was a brown note...

[XBROO]

I didn't think my comment was racial, I was meaning from a national security point of view. I'm sorry If you took it that way. I agree religion shouldn't be brought into this.

[NAK302]

i wanna know how my tax dollars got involved in another country's problem.

[Pepscobra]

Originally Posted by GT-0733

i wanna know how my tax dollars got involved in another country's problem.

No offence, but I disagree.
What actually is it costing us extra? The people working on this are already employed and we already have the equipment sitting there. This is good real word experience for our defence force personnel.

On the contrary, I believe it is good for Oz and especially Perth; this is an international incident and is getting premium global exposure.
The operation is being run from Pearce Airbase with a lot of people visiting to be involved.

[XWGT]

Originally Posted by GT-0733

i wanna know how my tax dollars got involved in another country's problem.

Yet if it was your family on a Malaysian plane off the coast of China..........I'm sure you'd be expecting China to do everything they can to find your family correct?

[Pepscobra]

Originally Posted by XWGT

Yet if it was your family on a Malaysian plane off the coast of China..........I'm sure you'd be expecting China to do everything they can to find your family correct?

I forgot to mention that very important point, should have gone without saying really I would have thought for most people.
There were six Australians on that flight too remember.

[NAK302]

obviously i don't get it. i'll move on.

[GasoLane]

Why it's hard to find little pieces floating in a big ocean (at sea level)... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MilaAOp7k2M


Around 50sec and 3min 50sec is..er..different.
(don't watch if you get seasick easily )

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by GT-0733

i wanna know how my tax dollars got involved in another country's problem.

I'm told your tax dollars have gone towards some Federal ministers travel allowance, mine have gone towards the search for MH370 and I'm fine with that

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

Why it's hard to find little pieces floating in a big ocean (at sea level)... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MilaAOp7k2M


Around 50sec and 3min 50sec is..er..different.
(don't watch if you get seasick easily )

I can see why they wouldn't find any prices of mh370 in that clip, considering it's during a hurricane, in the North Atlantic. Jan 2013.

Cool footage though.

[CoupeKing]

http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/223...rch-for-mh370/

On another note, if the replacement batteries for the black boxes were stored incorrectly, there is a possibility that the signal has already stopped.

[XBROO]

The more this goes on the more I'm feeling this plane is not going to be found, it will appear again but I'm afraid no time soon. Makes you wonder if it was a family member on board, could you put them to rest on the information that it crashed in the Indian Ocean. With no hard evidence to prove it and really only theory. I definitely feel for the friends and family involved as it's something, I hope none of us will never have to go through.

[bobthebilda]

Originally Posted by GT-0733

i wanna know how my tax dollars got involved in another country's problem.

Because we all know that Australia was involved in the plane going in missing. The Australian Electoral Commission stuffed up the senate vote in Western Australia by losing 1370 votes. So serious was the issue, that even its commissioner lost his job. To hide its embarrassment in the future, it had to ensure that all future google searches that involved Western Australia and 370, would lead to pages on the plane incident.

Democracy has a high cost.