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“Studies show” when politicians and overqualified “book smart” people get together not much clever stuff results.
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When people start making threats against MPs' families and their children, you know something isn't right. Some of the stuff said against Fiona Patten and Samantha Ratnam is just vile. Are these people really angry at the restrictions, or is there a deeper problem and this is just an excuse? It also made me think today about how asylum seekers mentally cope with being locked up indefinitely....... |
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Budget Racer
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Over 100 000 of us allowed to go back to work under the extended lockdown.
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Kicking back
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So, granted, im in nsw and its deffinately not as strict as vic. But what i fail to understand with the vic situiation, is that you only hear about the lets say 5% of people who do not do the recommended, yet probably the majority do. So in my head, community transmission should technically be managed it if theres no community?
So dunno if its across the board, but my grandparents are really old, both in their mid 90s. Theyre in a lovely private nursing home. They cannot have visitors. Reason being policy says, 14 days isolation if you leave the premesis. And every 2 weeks my olds have hospital checkups. So from all accounts, thats really done a number on my grandparents. My grandma is pretty frail, but apreciates things like the flowers in the communal garden. Grandpa though, pre covid, he still held his drivers licence, wouldnt drive far and only in daylight out of peak times, he had his prius. Everyday would go for a walk. Now, being so couped up he needs assistance to walk. Yes, they are what i would consider the most vulnerable, but the rapid decline is just really sad. |
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Secure the rest homes and the death rate drops by 90%. If you mandate the social distancing, sanitising, and other simple measures that still allow the people and economy to function albeit it at a reduced level them the spread is contained. Why is a covid death treated more seriously than a suicide? Both are preventable, with the right support in place. Mental health issues will cause far more long lasting effects, you already see the beginning of people starting to rise up. At the moment it’s largely the loony minority, but the longer you lock people up the more desperate they will become. |
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And yeah, waiting for the usual sheep to chime in with the usual "wHat HapPenS iF yOur GraNdPaReNts Died FrOm It, ThEn You'D HaVe A DifFeReNt OpInIon ![]() I'd be more concerned about the suicide rate, which is going to go through the roof once the economic impact is fully felt. But Andrews not only did a great job of stopping the virus with the strictest lock down in the nation, he also did a brilliant job of destroying the economy. Bravo Mr Andrews. |
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I wonder when NSW will reopen their border to Victoria?
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What I don't like are: 1. Deliberately provocative opinions designed to generate a reaction which we all know is what you do; and 2. Overt political statements designed to do likewise - and in breach of the site T&C. Stop both of those (which I know you won't) and I'll stop deleting your drivel.
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I've generally given up posting in this thread as it seems as though people aren't prepared to consider other people's perspectives without taking it as a personal affront.
But I just have to say that, even though I don't agree with every decision they make, I respect the work that our Government (in this case the Vic Government) have worked tirelessly at to manage this pandemic. It's easy for anyone to sit on the sidelines and assess the performance of the individuals who are making VERY difficult decisions when you're not the one in their position. I'd really like to see what sort of mess those opponents would make of our state if they were in charge. I'd also like to thank the work of the moderators of this forum and in particular the work they do in this thread. It would be very easy for this thread to derail quickly, and be shut down, but I think the moderators are doing a fine job in balancing the discussion to allow the conversation to continue on and people present their side of the discussion, allowing that discussion to continue on. Thank you. ![]()
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And should have happened months ago for nearly all of them. Where people can work safely then they should have been allowed to. This could have been set up along similar lines to the permit system for essential workers.
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We are fortunate here in W.A. I assume linked to population density, early intervention and possibly generally better compliance. To maintain that, random travel from known cases wouldn't be smart or necessary (travel) |
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![]() I don't believe there was much chance of me spreading Covid 19, or others working in similar situations. I also understand there is zero chance of us spreading anything if I we are in lock down. I don't know where the balance is, but it is working to get numbers down. I am lucky, only off work for six weeks. Now I can pay tax again to help prop up the economy. ![]()
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I'm confused. Is this a disease or virus.
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It's a virus that causes disease *ducks for cover*
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Someone I know has a stake in a group managing 20 or so pubs, they're on the hook for a lot of rents, wages (are eligable job keeper thank god) and debt is accumulating, how long before the bank goes - this is no longer viable, we want our money? Hospitality has been marginal for a long time, SFA cash in it, the money comes in from gambling, the food is there to get you in the door and onto the pokies/TAB. It was hard for that industry to make money in the good times. Quote:
Federal government has the ****s up of course, I don't blame them, how much funding is coming from them? They're on the hook for job keeper/seeker. Quote:
Things like this - keeping an eye on people exercising, really? Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 07-09-2020 at 08:22 PM. |
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Do you really want to take medical advice from someone who believes medical issues such as cysts, infertility and impotence are caused by people having sex with “spirit husbands” or “spirit wives” .... |
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What? I thought it was 5G!
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The studies coming out recently have back up what these all these doctors were saying at the time, yes even the crazed witch doctor. |
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Yes, people can twist this and say it is "spying". But seriously, how many people give a cr@p that police know they are walking at a park?!?! Just my view. Edit: also just to add. I lived in London for 5 years. One of the most CCTVed cities in the world. No one ever complained. Why? Because everyone felt safer. You'd see people streaming out of bars and clubs at 3am in the morning and groups of females will walk home by themselves. People just generally felt safe. |
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N/A all the way
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Speaking of "old". Have noticed more "grey" and "white" haired population walking about outside with spring upon us. Usually they just ignore you, but recently almost every single one has made some sort of effort to say g'day. Either I'm imagining things or they seem to be grateful for the efforts us "young" folks are putting in. ![]() |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: VIC
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I think the Victorian Government is doing a great job. No point cutting corners. At the end of the day the people who complain the most during the lock down are only thinking of the scenario from a selfish point of view. Human life is the most important thing not business, profit and political gain. There is enough greed in the world, time people think of others as well. Especially those more vulnerable.
Amazing how everyone over night is now an infectious disease expert. Modelling shows the chance of a virus resurgence in Melbourne if we reopen at 5 cases a day on the 14-day average is 3%. Compared to 64% if reopening at 25 cases a day. Common sense and basic math for the sake of a couple of weeks. Everyone in Victoria needs to follow the plan. Get through it. Avoid another lockdown. |
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Ok, so now we are supposed to take advice from witch doctors?? As factual medical advice/evidence??
Right.... that's it. We are well and truly - f**ked! |
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A few funnies to alleviate the gloom:
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As the vaccine race is entering the home straight I thought i would put up something to identify the front runners and monitor their progress. I'll add to this as the race progresses. Feel free to add if you wish.
Here's the leaders AZD 1222 Developed by Oxford University/ Astrazeneca, currently in Stage 3 trials in multiple sites worldwide and already in mass production in India. Expected delivery date late Oct. This vaccine is manufactured using a modified Adinovirus, conventional tech used with many other vaccines. MRNA 1273 Moderna/NIH, At a similar stage to the Oxford one but mass production may not be at the same level. Expected delivery date is Nov/Dec. This vaccine uses the new RNA technology BNT 162B2 Biontech/Pfizer/Fosun Another vaccine well into its Stage 3 trials. based on RNA tech and committed to a Dec delivery. All the above require two shots approx four weeks apart. The next two, Russian and Chinese products, skipped Stage 3 trials which are normally needed to get regulatory approval and went straight to wider distribution Gamaleya/Sputnik 5 This is the one Putin's daughter got, a conventional vaccine based on the Adinovirus. Wider distribution in Russia starts this week. Sinovac This is the main Chinese product although I think they actually have two at the same stage. They started vaccinating their military some time ago. Uni of Qld/ CSL Not up with the leaders but still in contention. Another RNA based vaccine with CSL gearing up to manufacture in Australia. Merck Trailing the field, not even at stage 1 trials yet but worth a mention as they have an oral vaccine in development; good news for those who don't like jabs. Mass production is the big question. Very few places have the capacity to take on the manufacture of billions of doses of these vaccines. India is one of the places where large numbers of vaccines are already produced and has started to produce the Oxford vaccine in large quantity. I imagine the political pressure to have something ready before Nov 3 is intense; if somehow it goes badly well it won't matter because the election will be over by then. |
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