Updated Explorer to Replace Territory Possible - Page 2

**Raptor** · 20-11-2014, 10:26 PM

While that might look Land/Range Rover ish (ref. clamshell bonnet ) its the upcoming Land Rover Discovery Sport that looks to me like it should be the successor to the Territory.

That styling is spot on IMHO, not overdone like the Americans seem to prefer.

So is the Blue Oval morphing into the Green Oval or vice versa.

Explorer replacing Territory - I don't believe it.

xr8territory · 20-11-2014, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor

While that might look Land/Range Rover ish (ref. clamshell bonnet ) its the upcoming Land Rover Discovery Sport that looks to me like it should be the successor to Territory.

That styling is spot on IMHO, not overdone like the Americans seem to prefer.

So is the Blue Oval morphing into the Green Oval or vice versa.

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Didn't Ford own Land Rover and Jag? Was that around 2000?

**Raptor** · 20-11-2014, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by xr8territory

Didn't Ford own Land Rover and Jag? Was that around 2000?

Yep, same time Territory was developed. Coincidence?

Here's another pic.

CyberWasp · 20-11-2014, 10:47 PM

Another wonderful One Ford Product.
You can have any Ford you want.............except for that One... that One.... & that One...
Oh don't don't even bother looking at that One or that One, we are stopping production....

SumoDog68 · 20-11-2014, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor

Yep, same time Territory was developed. Coincidence?

Here's another pic.

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Discovery sport is to Territory what Mercedes CLS is to AU .☺️

xr8territory · 20-11-2014, 11:05 PM

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Discovery sport is to Territory what Mercedes CLS is to AU .☺️

Yeh your right. The CLS is ugly compared to the AU.

FPV GTHO · 21-11-2014, 12:33 AM

I think whats more likely is FoMoCo and Jaguar/LandRover each have their design departments headed by a pair of brothers, Moray Callum at Ford and Ian Callum at JLA, and we're still seeing a familiar look to the SUV's after Evos/Fusion-Mondeo/Mustang etc had a Jaguar/Aston Martin appearance to them.

new2ford · 21-11-2014, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

And an X5 is made in the US...

Yes that would make me nervous! But the theory is that it's designed by BMW and quality supervision should be the same as in any overseas factory (cough, choke).

BMW has shot itself in the foot with run-flat tyres - which might be alright and drive in the city only. And then there's the price. Ford benchmarked the design of the Territory by the X5, but for less than half the price! But nowhere near half the quality, maybe about 2/3. BMWs aren't value for money, that's for sure.

simon varley · 21-11-2014, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by new2ford

Call me prejudiced but our Ford journey will be coming to an end when we've exhausted the Territorys. It's beyond imagination that the Americans could produce anything as good as the Territory (or the Falcon for that matter)

do yourself a favour, and at least have a test drive of whatever comes over before you defect. The new Yanks cars are much better than anything tey've previously sent us.

XtRmn8 · 21-11-2014, 09:52 AM

What about the 7 seat Edge as a Territory replacement?

new2ford · 21-11-2014, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by simon varley

do yourself a favour, and at least have a test drive of whatever comes over before you defect. The new Yanks cars are much better than anything tey've previously sent us.

Yes I will. Don't worry I'm not totally pig-headed, just 90% ;)

timeout · 26-11-2014, 06:24 PM

The explorer glasshouse looks like the territory

Edge is ok.too

danzvtil · 26-11-2014, 10:54 PM

Explorer isn't being developed in RHD, so rules it out for us. Edge has been developed for global markets, and has a 7 seater version, it is the most direct tezz equivalent. Everest will take care of the serious off roaders, exciting times ahead!

Matty4 · 27-11-2014, 07:04 PM

Is the Edge going to be available as a 7 seater?
According to Ford USA website it's only available as a 5 seater.

Road_Warrior · 27-11-2014, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Matty4

Is the Edge going to be available as a 7 seater?
According to Ford USA website it's only available as a 5 seater.

A 7 seater has been developed for the Chinese market, those pictures above are of it

Ford say they haven't determined whether they will make it available globally but they're fooling themselves if they won't, Euro markets as well as Australia will go for it

new2ford · 27-11-2014, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

You'd have to look at something like an X5 to get a similar driving experience. And they ain't exactly cheap.

I had long drives of an X3 and X5 today. The X5 is a bit of a big truck, I'd say designed for the USA luxury wannabe offroad market. It's handling isn't quite up to Territory quality. It feels more like a 4WD than the car-like, light and nimble crossover that the Territory is. It would be more in the Explorer class, but I can't imagine the Explorer bettering it.

The X3 on the other hand I was deeply impressed by. It handles like the Territory but even better. A beautiful car to drive and, unlike the Territory, you don't feel the juddering of rough surfaces through your bum. Fantastic ride. I haven't found anything closer to a worthy Territory replacement than this, so I'll await with much interest the Ford SUV replacements. But I suspect none of them will be a successful crossover like the Territory or X3.

I'm still not sure that many people understand what a crossover is - a car on stilts. Otherwise they wouldn't be trying to palm off various 4WDs onto us Territory types!

This is the current (post 2011) X3 by the way, not the original disaster but a completely different vehicle. It and the X5 have grown. The X5 is now bigger than the Territory, the X3 is almost Territory size. It's 20 cm shorter in length but every other dimension is only about 2-7 cm smaller. If you're past the baby boom like us and don't need those 3 child seats in the rear or the seven seats the X3 is a neat small adjustment downsize that's near as. And er, infinitely better quality fitout!

Of course there's the economics of owning a BMW compared to a Ford which is another subject! But now I have two benchmarks to test any oncoming Ford against.

Road_Warrior · 27-11-2014, 11:27 PM

Incidentally the X5 is actually made in the US.

new2ford · 27-11-2014, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Incidentally the X5 is actually made in the US.

Yes and the X3. This question came up before in the context of my anti-American sentiments! The only thing I can say is that from the cars I looked at today, BMW has very tight control of the production. They're no South African or Thai jobs.

I know Americans can do a good job when they try - there's Boeing aircraft and my John Deere tractor hasn't fallen apart yet (touch wood)! But automobiles (apart from BMW) - I'll believe it when I see it. I've driven American cars in America some years ago and I felt that if anything in the world could provide an example to define the word "junk", they would be it.

Bossxr8 · 28-11-2014, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by new2ford

I had long drives of an X3 and X5 today. The X5 is a bit of a big truck, I'd say designed for the USA luxury wannabe offroad market. It's handling isn't quite up to Territory quality. It feels more like a 4WD than the car-like, light and nimble crossover that the Territory is. It would be more in the Explorer class, but I can't imagine the Explorer bettering it.

The X3 on the other hand I was deeply impressed by. It handles like the Territory but even better. A beautiful car to drive and, unlike the Territory, you don't feel the juddering of rough surfaces through your bum. Fantastic ride. I haven't found anything closer to a worthy Territory replacement than this, so I'll await with much interest the Ford SUV replacements. But I suspect none of them will be a successful crossover like the Territory or X3.

I'm still not sure that many people understand what a crossover is - a car on stilts. Otherwise they wouldn't be trying to palm off various 4WDs onto us Territory types!

This is the current (post 2011) X3 by the way, not the original disaster but a completely different vehicle. It and the X5 have grown. The X5 is now bigger than the Territory, the X3 is almost Territory size. It's 20 cm shorter in length but every other dimension is only about 2-7 cm smaller. If you're past the baby boom like us and don't need those 3 child seats in the rear or the seven seats the X3 is a neat small adjustment downsize that's near as. And er, infinitely better quality fitout!

Of course there's the economics of owning a BMW compared to a Ford which is another subject! But now I have two benchmarks to test any oncoming Ford against.

Yeah the X3 is probably what the X5 was originally, in terms of size.