Wide Open Road Series - Page 2

**buggerlugs** · 18-10-2011, 09:55 AM

My mate missed the show, but you can watch it on " iview" . Ok , what is "iview" ?

aussie muscle · 18-10-2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by fmc351

Might explain his revolutionary 'assembly line'. Necessity being the mother of invention, and being a tight ****, that became necessity.

yes i think so. i mean it's cheaper to employ 20 assembly line workers than 20 master craftsmen, like most other makers did at that time.

302 XC · 18-10-2011, 10:43 AM

Bring on next week,then maybe we will see IF the producers are a tad one eyed

fmc351 · 18-10-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by buggerlugs

My mate missed the show, but you can watch it on " iview" . Ok , what is "iview" ?

Google is your ...mate. iview is the ABC streaming service, it streams programs theyve aired to your PC, I dont think they are downloadable, just streamed. But I think they only stay available for a week or so, so dont wait too long.

http://www.abc.net.au/iview/

cobramania · 19-10-2011, 12:33 PM

I thought it was interesting about Holden, & that the first Holden wasn't really Australian.
They said that GM Australia designed a car, but GM America flexed it's muscles & made them base it on a Chev, other parts of it were of American design/origin. Also General Motors was part of Holden right from the start, so how did Holden become known as the Australian car company? Even today the Commodore is designed in the US & has many US parts.
As far as I can find from history, even though Ford Aus. is owned by a US parent, it's always been pretty much stand alone, designing & building the first ute, the Falcon always has been & still is Australian designed, & mostly Aus. parts built.
By my thinking Ford should be the Australian car company & the falcon should be the home grown hero.

GTENVY · 19-10-2011, 12:55 PM

Just ordered the three part series on DVD from the ABC shop online. Its available as of the 17th of November, $32.95 including postage.

fmc351 · 19-10-2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cobramania

As far as I can find from history, even though Ford Aus. is owned by a US parent, it's always been pretty much stand alone, designing & building the first ute, the Falcon always has been & still is Australian designed, & mostly Aus. parts built.
By my thinking Ford should be the Australian car company & the falcon should be the home grown hero.

Early Falcons were based on US cars. XA was Aus, I guess XW on was too but based on the XR has US roots. XD looks remarkably similar to the Brit ??Grenada??.

IMO the Fords are more Australian, but thats never cut the mustard and for the foreseeable future isnt likely to change.

**buggerlugs** · 19-10-2011, 06:00 PM

Didn't realize Ford got the first ute's out just before GM...........

Geez Louise · 19-10-2011, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GTENVY

Just ordered the three part series on DVD from the ABC shop online. Its available as of the 17th of November, $32.95 including postage.

It is available instores on the 11th November for $29.95. Just in case you are passing one and want it earlier

xrfalcon · 19-10-2011, 07:00 PM

I like how the gentlemen commented " oh they only beat us by a month or two" but the ford ute was made in 1932, holden did not come around until late 1940's WTF.

xrfalcon · 19-10-2011, 07:00 PM

http://www.fastlane.com.au/Features/First_ute.htm

spebgtsprint · 19-10-2011, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GTENVY

Just ordered the three part series on DVD from the ABC shop online. Its available as of the 17th of November, $32.95 including postage.

Burn Baby Burn..............

Thanks Rich!

Supercharged · 19-10-2011, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 302 XC

Bring on next week,then maybe we will see IF the producers are a tad one eyed

I think it is already showing that.

Supercharged · 19-10-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cobramania

I thought it was interesting about Holden, & that the first Holden wasn't really Australian.
They said that GM Australia designed a car, but GM America flexed it's muscles & made them base it on a Chev, other parts of it were of American design/origin. Also General Motors was part of Holden right from the start, so how did Holden become known as the Australian car company? Even today the Commodore is designed in the US & has many US parts.
As far as I can find from history, even though Ford Aus. is owned by a US parent, it's always been pretty much stand alone, designing & building the first ute, the Falcon always has been & still is Australian designed, & mostly Aus. parts built.
By my thinking Ford should be the Australian car company & the falcon should be the home grown hero.

I thing much of the designing is done in India for the Commodore.

Rastus · 19-10-2011, 08:51 PM

Looks to be a great show. Thanks for the heads up in the previous thread.
Yes, a little Holden leaning, to be expected I guess. Steve "Bedders" Bedwell was/is a Holden sympathiser.
Next week should be really good. Bring on the muscle! Who's betting it'll be all about the Monaro, with the GT's getting a brief mention? Seeing the XR GT started things, and the XY GTHO being supreme, we'll see.

Bossxr8 · 19-10-2011, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cobramania

I thought it was interesting about Holden, & that the first Holden wasn't really Australian.
They said that GM Australia designed a car, but GM America flexed it's muscles & made them base it on a Chev, other parts of it were of American design/origin. Also General Motors was part of Holden right from the start, so how did Holden become known as the Australian car company? Even today the Commodore is designed in the US & has many US parts.
As far as I can find from history, even though Ford Aus. is owned by a US parent, it's always been pretty much stand alone, designing & building the first ute, the Falcon always has been & still is Australian designed, & mostly Aus. parts built.
By my thinking Ford should be the Australian car company & the falcon should be the home grown hero.

They failed to mention that the contract to build Australia's own car was put out to tender, and that Ford stumped up the most cash to get the program and had the most advanced and complete production facilities, but because Hartnet was on the selection committee, and had friends in government somehow Holden was awarded the contract.

Even then Holden had to fight dirty to win. Nothings changed.

mik · 19-10-2011, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cobramania

I thought it was interesting about Holden, & that the first Holden wasn't really Australian.
They said that GM Australia designed a car, but GM America flexed it's muscles & made them base it on a Chev, other parts of it were of American design/origin. Also General Motors was part of Holden right from the start, so how did Holden become known as the Australian car company? Even today the Commodore is designed in the US & has many US parts.
As far as I can find from history, even though Ford Aus. is owned by a US parent, it's always been pretty much stand alone, designing & building the first ute, the Falcon always has been & still is Australian designed, & mostly Aus. parts built.
By my thinking Ford should be the Australian car company & the falcon should be the home grown hero.

i`ve always thought that too, but if you keep repeating a slogan long enough, football meat pie`s ,etc,etc, people will end up believing it, and gm holden has milked the crap out of it, but that`s business good luck to them.

Geez Louise · 23-10-2011, 06:48 PM

Just a reminder that Part 2 of this is on tonight. 7.30 on the ABC.

Cheers
Col

blackf6 · 23-10-2011, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Geez Louise

Just a reminder that Part 2 of this is on tonight. 7.30 on the ABC.

Cheers
Col

I missed the first one but will defiantly be watching this one.

tankclare · 23-10-2011, 09:22 PM

Has to be one of the most awesome shows I have watched in a long time.

Spudz27 · 23-10-2011, 11:35 PM

Watched episode 1 yesterday, just watching episode 2 now. Very good show.

FERG_51 · 24-10-2011, 01:17 AM

Loved it, even though they made it look like the Monaro was the first muscle car in Aus, and the poor old Charger didnt even get a mention.

Trek · 24-10-2011, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by FERG_51

Loved it, even though they made it look like the Monaro was the first muscle car in Aus, and the poor old Charger didnt even get a mention.

Yeah, all this bothered me a bit too.

Loving it otherwise! Wish I could have experienced what it was like

Definitely something as a gift for my old man when its released on DVD

davenl5l · 24-10-2011, 10:28 AM

good show but should be called holden's wide open road !! lol

TC200six · 24-10-2011, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by xrfalcon

I like how the gentlemen commented " oh they only beat us by a month or two" but the ford ute was made in 1932, holden did not come around until late 1940's WTF.

They were referring to the Chevrolet ute which was built here in the 1930s

WAXBFAR · 24-10-2011, 12:23 PM

Brilliant show/doco with lots of never seen footage by myself!
Will get the DVD set!
Being an immigrant and knowing the euro GM & Ford models of that era, the Aussie cars are based on the Euro/USA models so realy World developed models with different panels and other suspension mods for the different conditions.
Nothing wrong with this as much more people could afford to buy a car due to the spreading of the development costs.

vibe_xr6 · 24-10-2011, 12:42 PM

Watched it last night, Also made my mrs watch it, We both enjoyed it and learn alot !

Ford_The_Win · 24-10-2011, 02:14 PM

I really want that green Cortina they used in the young Steve Bisley bit...mmm

gcg2503 · 24-10-2011, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rastus

Looks to be a great show. Thanks for the heads up in the previous thread.
Yes, a little Holden leaning, to be expected I guess. Steve "Bedders" Bedwell was/is a Holden sympathiser.
Next week should be really good. Bring on the muscle! Who's betting it'll be all about the Monaro, with the GT's getting a brief mention? Seeing the XR GT started things, and the XY GTHO being supreme, we'll see.

Bedders bought my mint ZF 351 Fairlane off me 6 months ago

But agree he is more of a Holden man

XT3VCruiser · 24-10-2011, 02:23 PM

Nice to know it's gone to someone(Bedders) who will look after it