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Speaking of masks....this is brilliant! Sorry for those that don't have FB, I couldn't find an equivalent on YT
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the anti "don't me tell about personal protection" are here. hope Ken doesn't get sick, of course we care about his perception of caring for others
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Here we go again....
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It is a concern I have too, I live in faith that the world is a little bit smarter these days and I just cant envisage a full blown WW but a bit naive to think it couldnt happen. In the short term, I also agree, the billions spent now are for what? What did we avoid? In 5 years time when this all passes and another virus outbreak occurs where is the money coming from? Im not sure when it ends but there economically needs to be a line drawn somewhere.
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I believe this had to be part of Sweden’s approach.
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I have heard anecdotal evidence of people being infected a second time. Young (under 55) people recovering but with significant long term problems.
I tend not to believe until I see some reliable figures. Does anyone have any statistics of 1) reinfections - requiring inpatient/outpatient treatment both times 2) recovery with life changing long term negative effects Anecdotes while fun are not things to base life decisions on. eg Vesna Vulović survived a 10,000 metre fall from a flight - so ... would you choose to jump out of a perfectly functioning plane without a 'chute ?? |
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*note, I am not in denial about the virus, its real, the effects are real, my concern is the ongoing economic packages and the seemingly endless credit being dished out.
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Promising results in small number trials, being suggested as potential protection for frontline workers and elderly in homes. |
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Somethings them them scared, real scared and I don't think they're telling us everything. |
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How infectious it is? The apparent randomness regarding the severity of the disease it causes? How healthy people without pre-existing conditions are dying? How it affects so many organs and leaves lasting damage? Doctors have found it all through the body in autopsies. lungs, kidneys, liver, brain, nervous system, gut, heart, blood vessels, arteries. They've reported damage everywhere... strokes, heart attacks and heart failures, clots in limbs resulting in amputation, not to mention that young lady who got a double lung transplant. Of course it's all anecdotal, it's too soon for anyone to have much more than anecdotal evidence but isn't it pretty clear that this thing is lethal? We don't yet know the long term implications on the organs that are affected. For anyone considering that it may be worse than what they're telling us, perhaps it's that you've been subconsciously downplaying it and not really acknowledging that it's any worse than the flu? To me, they've been pretty clear from word go that this virus is more dangerous than any regular virus we've seen in our lifetime. |
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I've been taking it seriously from day one leesa but all the scary stuff has only been drip fed to us over the last 6 Months and a lot of it quite recently.
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386 new cases for Australia and 17 deaths sees the CMR rise to 1.399% and active cases rise to 9,228. NSW recorded 10 with the balance in Victoria. The deaths represent the highest daily total since the pandemic began.
No new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.402% and active cases remain at 23. The UK recorded 1,062 new cases and 8 deaths yesterday so the CMR drops below 15% finally to 14.984%. Just over 56k new cases in the USA yesterday and 989 deaths sees CMR down to 3.205% and active cases at 45.6% with the raw numbers rising. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences. Other notable points: By the time the rest of yesterdays figures are in, the global total of cases will pass 20M, the last 1M taking only 4 days again; The USA completes 65M and India 24M tests; Asia sets a daily high for new cases with 91,315; Greece (202), Lebanon (294) and El Salvador (445) were the only countries to record new daily highs, those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.
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This wouldnt have even registered as news over here if it wasnt for CV19, lets not all lose the plot.
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Was covid not enough of a warning? Last edited by GasoLane; 10-08-2020 at 04:07 PM. Reason: Not really necessary. |
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Hendra virus, originated from bats. Who has been eating horses? Outrageous! Bird Flu outbreak in Lenthbridge Victoria. Look at all these dirty KFC lovers. Should be banned! Bubonic plague still popping up year after year, in Africa, Asia and America. |
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Not to mention Ebola....
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What we do know about reinfections: Detectable IgM and IgG antibodies develop within days to weeks of onset in most but not all infected individuals. The viral load typically peaks early in the illness and then declines as antibodies develop and antibody titers rise over a 2-3 week period (full article HERE). The durability of antibodies has yet to be defined. Persistence of up to 40 days from symptom onset has been identified in a Chinese study. What might help is antibody responses against other human coronaviruses - for example, following infection with SARS, concentrations of IgG remained high for approximately 4-5 months before subsequently declining slowly during the next 2 to 3 years. (Article Link). There is one small Chinese study using four rhesus macaques where reinfection didn't occur after 30 days but that's far from conclusive and hasn't been peer reviewed. The claimed Korean and Chinese reinfection cases are still under a question mark, with our own DoH commenting: It is likely that positive tests soon after recovery represent persisting excretion of viral RNA, and it should be noted that PCR [polymerase chain reaction] tests cannot distinguish between “live” virus and non-infective RNA. What we do know about longer term health impacts:Is probably best summarised in THIS article from the RACGP. In short (for those who don;t want to read it). Those who end up in ICU are almost certainly going to have longer term lung damage and quite possibly cardio-pulmonary issues as well. Those who get a severe case seem likely to suffer some loss of lung capacity as well as chronic fatigue. Studies of SARS have shown quite a high level of long term impacts from the disease even for normally healthy people and it's not dissimilar in many ways. (Link to another study).
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I see theyre saying 1 IN 5 of our doctors and health workers have limited access to masks now!..........................derrrrrr
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https://www.theage.com.au/national/o...09-p55jxx.html
Its odd though. The federal government received 58 million masks mid April. Is it a distribution problem? https://www.health.gov.au/ministers/...-from-covid-19 I'm hearing there are delays with PPEs being sent out of China. Due to the number of fake PPEs being sent out by unregistered distributors, they are checking exports very carefully. Then there is the fight for cargo space due to limited flights. |
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Ma-a-a-ate, it's not how long ago you stopped smoking, it's how long you smoked for. If you smoked for more than 25 years, mate then you are stuffed. (link?-that's based on the number of funerals I have been to in the last 10 years) Your lungs will never recover from smoking related damage no matter how many you smoked, lungs don't regenerate. If you get Covid then you are most likely a dead duck. I give you an answer of YES |
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https://www.news.com.au/sport/ufc/co...a7198da525f073
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