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http://www.themotorreport.com.au/616...t-falcon...The comment on dinosaur six cylinder Falcon six is ridiculous.. If not for the six , Ford in this country may not have lasted as long as it did..Dinosaur it might be in some eyes but a lovable ,durable reliable and fun big bugger it certainly was..I 'defy' you to disagree with me on that point at least !!!!!!!!.. RE fuel use..This mob that tested it then was un impressed with it's economy..read that for yourself , don't take my word for it... Cheers Rod.. |
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It's a shame that the Geelong designed CD4 Taurus wasn't considered for Australia.
With the right TTV6 engines, it would make a good replacement for XR6T, better than Mondeo. As Mustang is showing, it's not about the volume as much as market penetration with good continuing sales and high transaction prices. That's where Ford should be looking - the niche buyer who will pay a decent price for vehicles that perform. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr51pqt8oy4 would certainly lift the spirits of all us Ford owners who like something other than a glorified shopping trolley.. I hope Mondeo head down this way for us with a somewhat similar power plant and drivetrain..We can dream...Cheers Rod |
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G'day...Wouldn't this make the Mondeo get up and boogie....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jExV7N9U0k .. Imagine a Mondeo winning Bathurst with one of these... Cheers Rod.. |
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There is already a twin turbocharged AWD version of the Fusion producing 325hp available in the US. Would traditional buyers of V8's see this car as a replacement for their much loved V8? I think V8's have an appeal that can't be replaced by a turbo 4 or 6.
This car is really aimed at buyers who would otherwise consider a high performance BMW or Audi but are baulking at the price of the Europeans. Certainly, I chose the Mondeo because it is better value than so called prestige Euro brands such as BMW, Audi, or Mercedes. But then I'm not really badge conscious. Ford Australia have the challenge to convince the car buying public that the Mondeo is a viable alternative to the Camry and the Mazda6. |
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Misses runs her work fleet 200+ and they have deal with ford(gold or platinum etc) but some wait times for rangers and mondoes are extreme 7 months plus |
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R12T..Fusion Sport..http://www.autoblog.com/2016/01/11/2...oit-auto-show/
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If so , and given Australia's motoring tastes are much more akin to U.S. tastes than smaller capacity European engines is the 2.7 litre V6 AWD drivetrain not feasible at some stage as an option to the diesel and current petrol power for the RHD Mondeo.. A bit of market research may find that once Falcon is actually no more (all too soon now) that even a small V6 ecoboost might be more palatable than the 2.0 4 cylinder front wheel drive.. Does anyone think that any of that will ever be considered for a tiny congested market like ours.. I seriously doubt it..Love to be wrong though.. Cheers Rod... |
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Roddy. Fusion is the Mondeo. Maybe Australia should use the Fusion name? And Escape on Kuga, as in USA??
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As much as I love the Barra engine in my BF, objectively speaking the 2.0 EcoBoost beats it in just about every way that matters. The Barra sounds better, but that's about it. 2.0 EcoBoost feels quicker: once the turbo spools up, it can be deceptively quick, and because it's so quiet, it'll reach illegal speeds before I know it. It won't match the turbo six or the V8, but it's got the N/A six's performance covered. Yes, in my experience, it uses more fuel than the claimed 8.5L/100 (I get around 10.5), but it's still less than the 12.0L/100 I'm regularly getting in the BF, driving roughly the same city routes (I use each car on alternate days). Then again, maybe it's just because I have a lead foot. Quote:
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There's a rumour floating around that there may be a Mondeo ST in the next couple of years, but even if that is proven to be true, I'm not convinced that they'll put the 2.7 into it. I personally think it's more likely to get the Focus RS's 2.3. 325hp in the 2.7 is 242kW. Focus RS's 2.3 already has more power than it. Quote:
Escape, on the other hand, has a history here, so I wouldn't be as opposed to that, but the TF is a Kuga developed primarily by Ford of Europe. It has nothing in common with Escapes of the past.
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The I6 was past it's use by date(fantastic engine) non Euro emissions compliant.Ecoboost is the way forward for Ford.Cheers ![]() ![]() ![]()
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G'day Hackney and all....I get your point but I also have to say this.. When I mean we're more akin to the USA I mean that in the sense that we have a
(dare I say) Muscle car liking that has existed at least since the 1960's if not longer.. I know smaller capacity engines are capable of terrific performance but there's no excitement factor talking about them in the same way us oldies talk about the 351 Clevo's , Windsors , 302's the stroked Ticky's, Coyote/Miami , the Barra nowadays , and Holden go with the 308's ,350's, 327's etc.. I know bread and butter sales of a sportier performance car after Falcon , Commodore etc.. will never happen but they never have before either. FPV's , Tickford and HSV's etc were special builds as we all know but set apart from the bog standard model released by the manufacturer. .It'd be a limited market needing to be integrated in with the standard fare here and there but it'd be nice to think that if you really want one it's possible.. THIS MAY WELL CHANGE....Once cars powered by our much loved old heavy petrol guzzlers are much thinner on the ground , a new breed of cars we want to talk about , drive , do up and take to car shows might happen. My only fear is that the car as we know it will be JUST a conveyance , nothing more.. If there is a sporty or special model of any Ford , Holden , Toyota , etc etc..it'd be a little hint of our heritage..We need something to get excited about for a while yet.. The Mondeo Titanium with a 2.7 litre V6 might be the start IF that was a mechanically possible option at some stage...Who knows... Cheers Rod.. Last edited by roddy1960; 03-10-2016 at 09:58 AM. |
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Not all small/mid sized cars are the same. Yes, some are mere conveyances - I've had the misfortune of having a Holden Malibu as a rental for a while, and if ever there's a car that's more boring than a Camry, the Malibu is it. At the other end of the scale, you have the Mondeo - a well balanced, (relatively) quick, fun to drive car that seats four in reasonable comfort, and has a massive boot to ... boot.
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http://www.ford.com/suvs/explorer/models/ and I know it doesn't need it but doesn't the 2.7 ecoboost sport look good. http://www.ford.com/cars/fusion/models/ I note they are pushing Hybrids, something I haven't even looked at. who would have thought the Americans are leaving us for dead with tech
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I'am waiting for the next Mondeo add, you know, the one with the Mondeo spinning around with weights attached by chains front and rear.
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To be honest, if I were in North America and shopping for a Fusion, I'd rather have the Platinum than the Sport (incidentally, I wish Ford has brought the Mondeo Vignale here - too late for me now, though).
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the 2.7 ecoboost also has various outputs but has a few more torques than the 2.3. both. are awesome
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