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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Well now ive seen our laws abused in the worst way.
Friday morning at the Public boat ramp this bloke backed down beside me into the water and launched his boat with his mate holding it while he parked car and trailer up top in car park, we were having a chat when we heard swearing and boat owner walked into sight with two men in Uniforms arguing with him about the law and he had to pay fine or take it to court, they were booking him for towing boat with out lights on a public road, The guy had pulled into carpark launching area up top and removed his clip on light board to put trailer in water as you do and launched it, Apparently the moment he removed lightboard and moved it he was breaking the law,what a load of crap. has this taken it all to a new level or what.
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Oh yeah the worst thing is the guy said he would just pay fine as it would cost more than it was worth to go to court,i told him he should go to court and fight it as it was paying semantics and he would win .
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How would he win? Outraged as you might be, he DID break the letter of the law by moving the trailer with no lights.
Awesome boat-ramp legal advice though, cobber.
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he should write in explaining the situation you will find they will wipe the fine
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i dont know him,so i cant change his mind,but ive heard since Sunday they booked several people and did so a few weeks ago too.
its just wrong
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Bit silly to submerge the trailer with the lights still intact.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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ive seen them do it for unregistered trailers at ramp but this is outrageous, they left me alone as mine are fixed to trailer.but ive had other boats with removeable light boards and always thought it was ok
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One the face of it yet more of an example of a State, broke. Recipient should take it to a magistrate, unless there is more to this and that the actual offence was something else.
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Meh, more revenue raising. You'd reckon after more than a decade of pure wealth and indulgence QLD would be rolling in cash but that's another thread I guess (and hopefully a problem that will be fixed soon).
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Well here is the QLD Govt "Boat Safe" guide:
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we had marine lights on the trailers and they are submersable lights so you can do it at the time they were bloody expencive but now days you can get a set for under $50 so really no excuses Grimus
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All well and good, but the lights for our ski boat trailer have to be removed for the boat to come off. It's how the trailer was designed, we have no choice.
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It is a play on semantics, blatant revenue gathering, and unfortunatly the law if the ramp area is designated public. They are trying to say two things here, once the boat has been launched the lights need to be refitted before you drive away and the ramp area is part of the road.... I used to put the light board back on the trailer (it was easy to do, you did not have to unplug from the car), but after having the first one stolen ![]()
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What a croc of $h#% !. If i even came across a pack of clowns like that , I'de push them into the water and keep on doing what i'm doing.
Im sick to death of all the stupid laws in this country, it's all about revenue raising and officers making the booking quote for the month, it's out of control !.
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one smack in the mouth will fix that, and i would love to go to court to accept the punishment,out of place and out of control.will be back down in the bay again soon, im gunna love meeting these guys
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i dont think you will need to go the the bay to find them, they are based in Brisbane and travel all over the place.
coming to a boat ramp near you lol
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XD Sundowner
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yes i frequent many ,they are starting to turn up in the strangest hard to get to mud ramps , they are an evil necessity ,but you cant get much lower than that ffs ,guess people shouldn't ride in the boat while its being launched either by the letter of the law ,but in a car park full of boats and trailers i am guessing the only 1s who have a problem is the law itself .
some laws i wont and cant abide, i unplug regardless in case of a short ,dont want a meltdown whilst loading unloading ,that would be a bigger safety issue than the lights themselves ![]()
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So does this mean that removeable lights are now illegal, and everyone has to retro fit LED's?
If so, (1) it is a common aspect of jurisprudence that a law be, among other things, widely known or expected. Where was the information campaign? (2) It appears that Government sanctioned publications as referred to by Wally contradict the supposed law. Given most magistrates give people good behaviour bonds for stabbing people etc, you would think this would get thrown out. But a day off work to do so, it isn't fair. I have LED's on the bigger boat trailer, and don't dunk the lights on my tinnie trailer so doesn't affect me per se, but this really is a crock. What next, getting done for an unsecured load if you remove the tie down stap(s) immediately before reversing down the ramp? After retro fitting LED's, do you now have to take snorkelling gear to dive underwater to release the straps when ready to launch? Where does it end?
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we have crocs no scuba up this way ,bugger that .
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Well they just increased all the boat registration charges massively so they gotta be seen to be doing something I suppose
$$$ would be better spent on some security at ramps, lots of stuff, (even whole trailers) getting nicked here They just changed all the fishing rules, bag limits, size limits and even the names of some fish!!. You gotta take a set of encyclopedias fishing with you now. I rang the office up here and they don't even know what fish is what. Beaurocracy has gone mad making up rules to justify their jobs and annoy the rest of us. I dont agree with it at all Whatever happened to common sense? |
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its really bordering on pathetic ![]()
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